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[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33283436]On the other hand, containing them within an area makes it easier to arrest them if any trouble should arise. You can argue for both sides equally. Okay, now that's just weird.[/QUOTE]Its not just weird, its sick. It oppressive. There is no justification for this. They'll get nothing good from this. [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=rundevil;33283450]In my opinion they WANT that push back. If protestors get violent they can "write them off as violent criminals or the like", but thats not how I see that playing out. These protestors have put up with a lot, if they get violent things will get BAD. Also police have just put out a call for bolt cutters on there radio.[/QUOTE]What the hell do the need bolt cutters for?

[QUOTE=LuaStoned;33283445][url]http://yfrog.com/163yiz[/url] Tear gas video.[/QUOTE] But...but the protesters are violent! These officers are just doing their jobs!

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33283453] What the hell do the need bolt cutters for?[/QUOTE] Not sure, that's just what went up over police chatter.

Police chatter: [url]http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905[/url] People apparently chained themselves to trees.

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[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;33283480]I heard someone say they're cutting phone and network lines, but that sounds a little extreme, even for these circumstances.[/QUOTE] Wouldn't be surprised.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;33283436]On the other hand, containing them within an area makes it easier to arrest them if any trouble should arise. You can argue for both sides equally.[/QUOTE] No, you can't. If you think "making arrests" is a method of crowd control then you simply don't understand crowd control. The point is to drive people from an area, not corral them to round them up. If the primary goal is a mass arrest, then the primary goal is a mass arrest, but it has ceased being crowd control and become application of force pursuant to arrests. Try to think about this logically. People panic. You hit them with tear gas or pepper spray or march in a line, they will back up/scatter or push forward. Arrests are supposed to be about putting one or a few (outnumbered by officers) person(s) safely into a position where they cannot resist you, at which point you detain them. In this sort of situation, they can't do that.

I am so mad. I wish I had more to say, but I get so distraught when I hear about unlawful police action.

[QUOTE=LuaStoned;33283479]Police chatter: [url]http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905[/url] People apparently chained themselves to trees.[/QUOTE] Well, that's the bolt cutter mystery solved then.

Josh Harkinson's report from the camp. "I just got shoved out of the park by a police officer. I'm now going to explain what I saw. The riot police moved in with zip cuffs and teargassed the occupiers in the food tent, then they wrestled them to the ground and cuffed them. Everyone I witnessed being arrested was resisting peacefully. As I was observing, a cop approached me and asked me who I was. I told him that I am a reporter with a national magazine, He asked me who, I said Mother Jones. That's when he said I had to leave." ‎"I told him I wold not. That is is my right to be here and observe what is going on. He said that all the press is in the press pen, and that's where I had to go. I said I would not,.That he would have to arrest me, but I would go peacefully. At that point he grabbed me by the arm and started hauling me away. I quickly realized he was just trying to escort me out, so I began resisting. He literally started hauling me across the park. My feet were slipping on the ground. All around me, protesters were being pepper sprayed and zip cuffed. I realized that I could either drop to the ground and meet the same fate, or let him haul me out. I decided it would be better to stay out of jail and keep reporting on what's going on tonight, so I let him haul me out, arguing with him." "He told me if I stayed in the park I could get hurt. I pointed out that there was no chance of that. I had just been standing around. Cleanup already done for the most part. Then he dragged me in front of a dump truck that was backing up. He said, 'Look, this dump truck is backing up, you could get hurt.' I pointed out that he dragged me in front of it. Then he deposited me on the other side of the street, where I am now sitting on a bench in front of a pizza joint." source: [url]https://twitter.com/#!/JoshHarkinson[/url]

Three possible outcomes. Media blackout. No one finds out the real damage and nothing is done. Second. They post videos of this and people through wanting to gain balance rise up in violence. Third. People are afraid of police, America effectively becomes pre ww2 Germany, a police state.

The video I posted 'could' have been a fire extinguisher, nothing confirmed yet.

[QUOTE=Glaber;33282850]I can't say I'm surprised. But I can say I don't believe OCW is "peaceful"[/QUOTE] ugh why do you still post

[QUOTE=rundevil;33283406]trains and bridges are now shut down.[/QUOTE] What is the purpose of this other than to quite literally terrorize the citizens of new york by making people unable to get around it's dangerously close to a full-blown curfew

[img]http://i.imgur.com/VI488.jpg[/img] The protesters are being attacked with sound cannons. Plus pictures of bulldozers have been showing up, will try to catch one.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283506]What is the purpose of this other than to quite literally terrorize the citizens of new york by making people unable to get around it's dangerously close to a full-blown curfew[/QUOTE] They're trying to contain this as much as possible, no news in or out effectively.

[QUOTE=LuaStoned;33283515][img]http://i.imgur.com/VI488.jpg[/img] The protesters are being attacked with sound cannons. Plus pictures of bulldozers have been showing up, will try to catch one.[/QUOTE] Those can deafen people, they should be illegal I'd be totally ok if the protesters decided to flip that truck over or steal the cannon and point it the other way

AP wire alert at 1:35 AM (don't know what time zone): NEW YORK (AP) — NYC Mayor's office orders protesters out of Zuccoti Park, says they can return

Wow, holy shit they're really going all out with this. They want to quash this before it gets big They will never round them all up. A half-assed quote from Sun-Tzu's Art of War, "if an enemy is never extinguished but left with a small ember, a roaring fire, a hundred times the strength will arise from it."

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33283520]Those can deafen people, they should be illegal[/QUOTE] Indeed. You mount them on fucking boats to give messages to people on the horizon. There's no justification for an LRAD in an urban environment- at the ranges and settings they're supposed to be used at existing loudspeaker designs suffice.

Anyone have a link to the Al Jazeera feed that just went live? the world really is watching now.

[url]http://www.livestream.com/occupyunity[/url] Yet another livestream.

well what did you expect from the same police department which had four officers shoot a man 41 times because they mistook a wallet for a gun.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33283535]well what did you expect from the same police department which had four officers shoot a man 41 times because they mistook a wallet for a gun.[/QUOTE] michael moore stopped that from ever happening again though

Idk how legit this is but: [img]http://s1-01.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/447473118.jpg[/img] [url]http://twitpic.com/7eewgu[/url] €dit: Reuters and Guardian coverage: [url]http://live.reuters.com/Event/Occupy_Wall_Street2[/url] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/nov/15/occupy-wall-street-police-action-live?CMP=twt_gu[/url] CNN seems to be covering it right now!

To you pricks saying the Occupy Protests are inherently violent because of events that have been cherry-picked, you should all be ashamed of yourselves because you're emulating the exact same shit people said about the Civil Rights Movement (that happened in your country no less), and nobody says that stuff anymore because they've realised they were retarded and incorrect. Hindsight is 20/20 As far as I'm concerned picking out incidents when we all know that [I]human nature's human nature[/I], and that there are always idiots who will fuck shit up for people legitimately trying to change things because it's easier to get away with things in an environment of quasi-anarchy, is not only comparable but a direct parallel to saying "Oh, those negro savages are incapable of peaceful protest" because of isolated incidents during civil rights rallies.

[url]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OCCUPY_ZUCCOTTI?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT[/url] AP article on this [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] Reports of sound cannons used at the Kitchen.

Listening to the radio. Reports roughly stating officers are 'being surrounded'.... And they just said something about engaging.

Protestors are moving to Foley square, where the police department it self is located. [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;33283610]Listening to the radio. Reports roughly stating officers are 'being surrounded'.... And they just said something about engaging.[/QUOTE] Footage of it on the theother99 stream.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;33283610]Listening to the radio. Reports roughly stating officers are 'being surrounded'.... And they just said something about engaging.[/QUOTE] someone in the chat just said cops on broadway just got charged and overrun? :OOO