Mayor Predicts “Waco-Style Standoff” In Response to Obama Gun Confiscation - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39260998]Nope, killing is never justifiable. Self-defense? What kind of savage would ever point a gun at another? It is better to die oneself than to use one of those barbaric machines.[/QUOTE] yes, better to let this person kill me and my loved ones than for me to wound or kill him. So how is it in your fun little fantasy land?

Damnit; I just freaking hate how people have this "world view" or some shit about global peace and stuff. Honestly, it's a great ideal and everyone should strive for it but it's quite apparent that it will never be achieved.

[QUOTE=BFG9000]Ok, you go do that. But I, for one, want to survive in this savage world. What kind of place do you think we live in, Candyland?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay]yes, better to let this person kill me and my loved ones than for me to wound or kill him. So how is it in your fun little fantasy land?[/QUOTE] "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing." Come on Facepunch, I'm as subtle as a brick.

How come we spend all this time debating which guns to ban, and nobody is fucking even TALKING about what to do with the mental health system, or what we can do to curb political discord and actually make society better so people don't want to go out in a shooting spree. You can pass 10,000 new gun laws and it still won't prevent shit like this happening, at least when you focus on the root cause of problems like this, you at least have a CHANCE.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39261163]"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing." Come on Facepunch, I'm as subtle as a brick.[/QUOTE] Oh wait so you're not arguing for gun control whoops

[QUOTE=Ybbats;39261173]How come we spend all this time debating which guns to ban, and nobody is fucking even TALKING about what to do with the mental health system, or what we can do to curb political discord and actually make society better so people don't want to go out in a shooting spree. You can pass 10,000 new gun laws and it still won't prevent shit like this happening, at least when you focus on the root cause of problems like this, you at least have a CHANCE.[/QUOTE] Because people of lower IQ think guns kill people instead of the person who is pulling the trigger. These same people refuse to believe that these mass murderers are comitting suicide when they go to shoot up a school, or what have you. And that people that are going to commit suicide are going to kill with what ever they can get their hands on- if it isn't guns, it will be something else such as running your car into a gathering of people, or strapping yourself with a pipe bomb and running into a mall, ect. ect.

[QUOTE=Clavus;39258596]The ban is for all those near-military grade rifles. Any nut that is paranoid enough to start blasting when they come to take away his AK-47 is someone who shouldn't have a weapon like that in the first place.[/QUOTE] Hey. Just to let you know. It's not banning military grade assault rifles. It's banning black rifles, instead of blue rifles. Because black is more threatening.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;39259186]Yeah you fucking can prevent it somehow considering how most countries don't have them weekly but one of them does. Who cares how sad and oppressed a bunch of gun nuts feel, it's at least [B]SOMETHING[/B], which is better than [B]NOTHING[/B]. Maybe some people are ok with regular mass shootings becoming the status quo but I'm not.[/QUOTE] Theres been 3 mass shootings this year. All three had "assault weapons" ( doesn't matter if they used them or not still had them IE: Sandy Hook) If you look here at FBI.gov [URL]http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20[/URL] You will see that rifles were hardly used in murders, and that handguns are more of a problem. I am against all types of gun bans, but banning " Assault Weapons" is pretty stupid if they aren't used in a majority of crimes. I mean look at California 1,790 murders in 2011, 866 of them were handgun, 45 were rifles. Oh but wait California already has a "assault weapons ban" (AWB), so surely a state, lets say Texas who doesn't have an AWB has higher Rifle crime: 1,089 murders 497 handguns, 37 rifles. Well shit.

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39261294]Theres been 3 mass shootings this year. All three had "assault weapons" ( doesn't matter if they used them or not still had them IE: Sandy Hook) If you look here at FBI.gov [url]http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20[/url] You will see that rifles were hardly used in murders, and that handguns are more of a problem. I am against all types of gun bans, but banning " Assault Weapons" is pretty stupid if they aren't used in a majority of crimes. I mean look at California 1,790 murders in 2011, 866 of them where handgun, 45 were rifles. Oh but wait California already has a "assault weapons" ban, so surely a state, lets say Texas who doesn't have an AWB has higher Rifle crime: 1,089 murders 497 handguns, 37 rifles. Well shit.[/QUOTE] Chicago has a complete weapons ban and has the highest murder rate in the United States.

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39261294]Theres been 3 mass shootings this year. All three had "assault weapons" ( doesn't matter if they used them or not still had them IE: Sandy Hook) If you look here at FBI.gov [URL]http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20[/URL] You will see that rifles were hardly used in murders, and that handguns are more of a problem. I am against all types of gun bans, but banning " Assault Weapons" is pretty stupid if they aren't used in a majority of crimes. I mean look at California 1,790 murders in 2011, 866 of them were handgun, 45 were rifles. Oh but wait California already has a "assault weapons ban" (AWB), so surely a state, lets say Texas who doesn't have an AWB has higher Rifle crime: 1,089 murders 497 handguns, 37 rifles. Well shit.[/QUOTE] Wait CA has an AWB? Shit; I have 2 un-adapted AR 15s and a Mossberg 500 with a barrel shroud

[QUOTE=UziXxX;39261304]Chicago has a complete weapons ban and has the highest murder rate in the United States.[/QUOTE] Its funny huh. If criminals want guns, they will get their guns. Gun running( and drugs) from Mexico to South West states is happening and will continue to happen to fuel gangs.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39261163]"Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing." Come on Facepunch, I'm as subtle as a brick.[/QUOTE] It's hard to detect sarcasm in text, that coupled with the fact some people make some really god damn silly posts doesn't help.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39261350]Wait CA has an AWB? Shit; I have 2 un-adapted AR 15s and a Mossberg 500 with a barrel shroud[/QUOTE] It has a stupid ban: If your gun accepts a detachable magazine, you cannot have Pistol grip, Forward Grip, and other scary looking aesthetics . Also 10 round magazines only. Oh but wait, if i want a 30 round magazine i can go to a gun show ( one in Southern CA at the end of the month) and buy "broken" 30 round magazines. Of course it would be highly illegal to put the magazine together as it says so on the package. Only criminals would do that. This is a legal AR [t]http://srv.rowelab.com/DU/riflesfull.jpg[/t]

You can get a "bullet pin"(I think it's called that) attachment for you AR that lets you use a 30 round magazine. You can only take out the mag by using a bullet or pin, so it counts as disassembley so it's considered an internal mag or something. But you can buy a bullet pin cover that lets you just detach it like a normal magazine. Shits 'tarded.

Or some other magazine lock right?

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I have a perfect lawn ornament for you. [t]http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gun-free-home.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39261706]I have a perfect lawn ornament for you. [t]http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gun-free-home.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] "Hey! [I]HEEEEEEEEEEEEEY[/I]! Come rob me!"

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39261706]I have a perfect lawn ornament for you. [t]http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gun-free-home.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I give it a week before [B]criminals[/B] with guns rob them.

[QUOTE=Delta616;39262052]I give it a week before [B]criminals[/B] with guns rob them.[/QUOTE] Criminals with guns that any gun ban wouldn't of prevented them from getting them in the first place and would actually harm law abiding citizens more than the criminals targeted in the first place.

[QUOTE=Eudoxia;39260998]Nope, killing is never justifiable. Self-defense? What kind of savage would ever point a gun at another? It is better to die oneself than to use one of those barbaric machines.[/QUOTE] For one thing. It's not barbaric. Guns slaughtered the barbarians. Don't you remember the 1880s? Where the white men went in with guns and took over Africa.

wasn't there a mass stabbing(over 20 kids stabbed) in a school in china almost the same day the sandy shooting happened? I know its getting old but.. we cant just ban everything thats dangerous, its not the real issue :s Edit: I've been searching around, infact stabbings in schools are awful comon in china, do you really think banning the knife or the hammer that has been used would solve the real issue behind this?

Keep your guns you pussy ass cowards. See how stupid you look defending the problem. Please yell at me now so I can masturbate.

[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39262331]Keep your guns you pussy ass cowards. See how stupid you look defending the problem. Please yell at me now so I can masturbate.[/QUOTE] Someone with a gun isn't a coward. A coward doesn't take charge and hold up a weapon. A coward sits in their office, surrounded by armed guards and tells other people to be disarmed.

[QUOTE=counterpo0;39261706]I have a perfect lawn ornament for you. [t]http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gun-free-home.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] It's a trap. That house is loaded with guns. :tinfoil:

[QUOTE=Delta616;39262052]I give it a week before [B]criminals[/B] with guns rob them.[/QUOTE] I sincerely hope that masses of guns aren't the true reason the US hasn't dissolved into anarchy. It is a pretty ridiculous sign though.

[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39262331]Keep your guns you pussy ass cowards. See how stupid you look defending the problem. Please yell at me now so I can masturbate.[/QUOTE] lol, big man talking from his enclosed office in his parents house in a gated white suburb.

[QUOTE=DarkSiper;39262291]wasn't there a mass stabbing(over 20 kids stabbed) in a school in china almost the same day the sandy shooting happened? I know its getting old but.. we cant just ban everything thats dangerous, its not the real issue :s Edit: I've been searching around, infact stabbings in schools are awful comon in china, do you really think banning the knife or the hammer that has been used would solve the real issue behind this?[/QUOTE] China suffers on average 1 homicide per 100,000 yearly. The US suffers 4.8. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/url] I can't really say that firearm control would lower that number, but equally so you can't say that banning guns just means people swap to knives.

[QUOTE=DarkSiper;39262291]wasn't there a mass stabbing(over 20 kids stabbed) in a school in china almost the same day the sandy shooting happened? I know its getting old but.. we cant just ban everything thats dangerous, its not the real issue :s Edit: I've been searching around, infact stabbings in schools are awful comon in china, do you really think banning the knife or the hammer that has been used would solve the real issue behind this?[/QUOTE] I'd have given anything to place a knife in the Sandy Hook killer's hands rather than a firearm.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39262630]lol, big man talking from his enclosed office in his parents house in a gated white suburb.[/QUOTE] Right but you're blaming the problem on MORE people with the same problem. Keep your guns, American. I actually want all of you to shoot each other so you stop having fat stupid children who grow up to argue on a forum with no education to call your own. You may be the loudest person, but it doesn't make you right. You may have the loudest gun... [QUOTE=Hovergroovie]but it doesn't make you right[/QUOTE]