Mayor Predicts “Waco-Style Standoff” In Response to Obama Gun Confiscation
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[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39262283]For one thing. It's not barbaric. Guns slaughtered the barbarians. Don't you remember the 1880s? Where the white men went in with guns and took over Africa.[/QUOTE]
He was being sarcastic. :v:
[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39262331]Keep your guns you pussy ass cowards. See how stupid you look defending the problem.
Please yell at me now so I can masturbate.[/QUOTE]
[b][i][u]FAP HARDER!!!![/b][/i][/u]
[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39262331]Keep your guns you pussy ass cowards. See how stupid you look defending the problem.
Please yell at me now so I can masturbate.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39263133]Right but you're blaming the problem on MORE people with the same problem. Keep your guns, American. I actually want all of you to shoot each other so you stop having fat stupid children who grow up to argue on a forum with no education to call your own. You may be the loudest person, but it doesn't make you right.
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"How to sound unpersuasive, uneducated, and pretentious: a lesson by hovergroovie."
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;39262721]I can't really say that firearm control would lower that number, but equally so you can't say that banning guns just means people swap to knives.[/QUOTE]
What you [i]can[/i] say is that gun control has no effect on crime rates, as it has been already proven in multiple studies (if I'm not mistaken).
[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39263133]Right but you're blaming the problem on MORE people with the same problem. Keep your guns, American. I actually want all of you to shoot each other so you stop having fat stupid children who grow up to argue on a forum with no education to call your own. You may be the loudest person, but it doesn't make you right.
You may have the loudest gun...[/QUOTE]
You're adorable. I think it's hilarious how you think calling me my nationality is an insult or something, I thought everybody grew out of silly nationality hatred years ago on facepunch.
Impeach the fucker already.
The point of a gun is violence. It was literally built to harm. If you defend the problem, you won't solve it. Threads like this are full of people who disagree.
I'm here to masturbate.
Having a gun is like having a condom, it's better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.
Yes, I shamelessly stole that from AVP but it fits none the less.
Gun bans won't accomplish very much if anything but make people more angry, more scared and more paranoid
while getting to the root of the problem would almost [i]certainly[/i] change things for the better nationally.
It's all very convoluted in those minds of congressmen/women.
It seems to me that people that are pro gun control are generally bullied and shittalked on facepunch like crazy lately. It's a shame we can't find a way to debate civilly and disagree without being assholes to eachother.
Also, if you disagree with someone, rate them disagree. Dumb ratings are abused like hell in debates like this, people just rate anyone they disagree with dumb.
[QUOTE=counterpo0;39261706]I have a perfect lawn ornament for you.
[t]http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gun-free-home.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I just thought of something... Why don't the Police use methods like this to capture petty burglars?
Think about it, they already do this to men who want to get a blowjob in some bad part of town! All they've gotta do is find a nice group of vacant houses, put these signs out in front of them, and snatch burglars one after another.
[QUOTE=johnlmonkey;39263665]It seems to me that people that are pro gun control are generally bullied and shittalked on facepunch like crazy lately. It's a shame we can't find a way to debate civilly and disagree without being assholes to eachother.
Also, if you disagree with someone, rate them disagree. Dumb ratings are abused like hell in debates like this, people just rate anyone they disagree with dumb.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I disagree, more than a few who have argued for gun control have entered the debates with a belligerent and pretentious attitude. In my opinion, they reaped what they sowed.
I do agree with you about the dumb ratings, though. There's dumb and disagree. The two are not interchangeable.
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;39263728]Sorry, but I disagree, more than a few who have argued for gun control have entered the debates with a belligerent and pretentious attitude. In my opinion, they reaped what they sowed.
I do agree with you about the dumb ratings, though. There's dumb and disagree. The two are not interchangeable.[/QUOTE]
I say that when somebody's opinion/post is grounded in stupidity, a dumb is in call.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39261099]"guys have you heard how terrified I am of inanimate objects I am lately"
"guys"[/QUOTE]
why did six people rate this zing it's not even clever or funny lol
its just someone trivializing a serious issue that has resulted in the death of thousands of american citizens each year by pretending we're afraid of "inanimate objects" that, when wielded by an animate object such as a person, can easily kill numerous people
the whole "guns dont kill people, they're just inanimate objects!" thing is such a pathetic and tired post to make in response to criticism of cowboy western gun laws
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=McCarthy;39263363]Impeach the fucker already.[/QUOTE]
thats not how impeachment works sorry
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39263767]why did six people rate this zing it's not even clever or funny lol
its just someone trivializing a serious issue that has resulted in the death of thousands of american citizens each year by pretending we're afraid of "inanimate objects" that, when wielded by an animate object such as a person, can easily kill numerous people
the whole "guns dont kill people, they're just inanimate objects!" thing is such a pathetic and tired post to make in response to criticism of cowboy western gun laws
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
thats not how impeachment works sorry[/QUOTE]
Treat the causes of violent crime, don't just attempt to eliminate one of the methods.
[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;39256428]Yeah. Trying to take the guns from the people who have always been paranoid that the government wanted to take their guns isn't gonna be fun for anybody involved[/QUOTE]
Waco 2: Electric Boogaloo.
[QUOTE=hovergroovie;39263626]The point of a gun is violence. It was literally built to harm. If you defend the problem, you won't solve it. Threads like this are full of people who disagree.
I'm here to masturbate.[/QUOTE]
Guys, why do weirdos like this Guy always show up in the gun debate threads?
[QUOTE=Apache249;39263786]Treat the causes of violent crime, don't just attempt to eliminate one of the methods.[/QUOTE]
Treat both.
One is the cause of violence, the other makes it damn easy to commit a large amount of it.
[QUOTE=Van-man;39264094]Treat both.
One is the cause of violence, the other makes it damn easy to commit a large amount of it.[/QUOTE]
If there's no cause, why take something away from many law-abiding citizens?
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
Prohibition doesn't work. We've seen this in alcohol, and we're seeing this with Marijuana. Attempting to take guns away would lead to a bloodbath.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39262283]For one thing. It's not barbaric. Guns slaughtered the barbarians. Don't you remember the 1880s? Where the white men went in with guns and took over Africa.[/QUOTE]
He was a little subtle about it but he's being sarcastic
[QUOTE=Apache249;39264115]If there's no cause, why take something away from many law-abiding citizens?
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
Prohibition doesn't work. We've seen this in alcohol, and we're seeing this with Marijuana. Attempting to take guns away would lead to a bloodbath.[/QUOTE]
You're presuming I meant banning.
Tight but proper regulation is the answer.
The US has been too much laissez faire on both issues, time to get a grip on them.
[QUOTE=viper shtf;39263938]Guys, why do weirdos like this Guy always show up in the gun debate threads?[/QUOTE]
By the numerous times he's mentioned self gratifications I'd say he's here to troll
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Van-man;39264329]You're presuming I meant banning.
Tight but proper regulation is the answer.
The US has been too much laissez faire on both issues, time to get a grip on them.[/QUOTE]
Better hurry up before they push the Assault Weapon Ban trough their assholes; soon we won't be able to get a [b]Grip[/b] on anything
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39263767]why did six people rate this zing it's not even clever or funny lol
its just someone trivializing a serious issue that has resulted in the death of thousands of american citizens each year by pretending we're afraid of "inanimate objects" that, when wielded by an animate object such as a person, can easily kill numerous people
the whole "guns dont kill people, they're just inanimate objects!" thing is such a pathetic and tired post to make in response to criticism of cowboy western gun laws
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reread what I wrote
reread it twice
reread it again
then stop posting.
you are literally 10000% more likely to be killed by an automobile.
having an irrational fear of an inanimate object of a particular group of objects that already constitutes less than 5% of firearms deaths makes you a loon bro, lol.
stop.being.scared.of.inanimate.objects fullstop
[QUOTE=BFG9000;39264335]By the numerous times he's mentioned self gratifications I'd say he's here to troll[/QUOTE]
It was a simile :(
I use arguments to stroke off, gun enthusiasts use guns to stroke off.
Criminals if they want to commit a crime will do it with or without firearms. People can use anything as a weapon. Knifes, forks, baseball bat, screw driver. Firearms are dangerous but expensive. Even if you ban firearms, criminals will still use other possible weapons like knifes or crowbar or even their fist. Weapons ban is sort of a knee jerk reaction.
The only way to prevent gun crimes is not through weapons ban but education and create jobs. Mental health care should be implemented.
Am I the only one who thinks it's massively ironic to oppose gun restrictions by threatening to gun restrictors?
I mean, the gun owners worsen their reputation by threatening to use their firearms for the exact reason they're being consficated for.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;39264531]Am I the only one who thinks it's massively ironic to oppose gun restrictions by threatening to gun restrictors?[/QUOTE]
hahahahaha
[QUOTE=ac/14;39256555]sure you would be saying the same thing if they came to take your computer, right?[/QUOTE]
Well if they went to confiscate his computer he wouldn't actually be complaining because he wouldn't have a computer to rant on now would he
[editline]18th January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=BCell;39264451]Criminals if they want to commit a crime will do it with or without firearms. People can use anything as a weapon. Knifes, forks, baseball bat, screw driver. Firearms are dangerous but expensive. Even if you ban firearms, criminals will still use other possible weapons like knifes or crowbar or even their fist. Weapons ban is sort of a knee jerk reaction.
The only way to prevent gun crimes is not through weapons ban but education and create jobs. Mental health care should be implemented.[/QUOTE]
Not making advanced automatic weaponry as easily accessible to everyone as it currently is would also be of help.
Don't get me wrong I think education is the best way to solve a lot of issues in American society right now, but you also have to keep in mind that a crazy mind will not necessarily be taken in charge before it does something stupid. There's a reason most people who are taken in charge in mental institutes have already tried to kill themselves BEFORE they got in there. That's because you need to see something out of the ordinary to suspect someone has a mental issue.
So in short just teaching people how to properly use firearms and give them the best education system ever as well as a good mental health care system would not be enough. If someone who is not in his right mind is on the verge of going to a school and shooting everyone with an automatic rifle, the fact he can get an assault rifle completely legally just by walking into a store may as well tip him on the wrong side of the balance. This kind of case will always happen even if you limit the sales of firearms to, say, handguns, but at least they will be rarer and probably not as deadly considering the amount of ammunition you can carry in a handgun is rather limited.
My point is, you can't just hope for education to make everything. Some rules have to come by as well. Now the big issue is to find rules that find balance between restriction and freedom.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;39264406]reread what I wrote
reread it twice
reread it again
then stop posting.
you are literally 10000% more likely to be killed by an automobile.
having an irrational fear of an inanimate object of a particular group of objects that already constitutes less than 5% of firearms deaths makes you a loon bro, lol.
stop.being.scared.of.inanimate.objects fullstop[/QUOTE]
Well automobiles are inanimate objects too. They're also powerful objects capable of causing harm if the wrong people are allowed to use them, much like firearms.
We wouldn't trust habitual drunks and children to drive automobiles, so why shouldn't we disallow some people from acquiring and using firearms as well?
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;39263246]What you [i]can[/i] say is that gun control has no effect on crime rates, as it has been already proven in multiple studies (if I'm not mistaken).[/QUOTE]
I don't think you can really make a call like that without citing at least one study.
You can't just make your own facts up, that's why I said I couldn't make a call either way.
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