France warned of terrorist attack plan on Rio Olympics team
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[quote]France was informed of a planned terror attack on its team at the Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, the head of French military intelligence has said.
Gen Christophe Gomart told a parliamentary commission in May that a "partner agency" warned of the plot by a Brazilian Islamist militant.
No further details were given.
Gen Gomart made his comments at a commission hearing into last year's attacks in Paris. The transcript of the hearing has just been made public.
Brazil's institutional security cabinet - which oversees the country's information services - told the AFP news agency it had received no information about the threat from the French authorities.
"We were not the source of information and the Brazilian intelligence agency (ABIN) was not officially informed either of this matter," a spokesman said.
In July, Brazilian Justice Minister Alexandre Moraes said a jihadist attack in Rio during the Olympics was a "possibility" but "not a probability".
About 85,000 security force members including 47,000 policemen and 38,000 soldiers will be on duty to ensure the safety of 10,500 athletes and officials, journalists and tourists from around the world who will be expected to attend the 5-21 August Games.
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[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36791664[/url]
can france catch a break holy shit
Why would the terrorists even bother? If the the gangs and common criminals don't get them, the diseases and pollution will.
Why do these terrorists have such a hard-on for France? Legit question. I don't see how they're any different from any other "Western devil".
[QUOTE=Robman8908;50713285]Why do these terrorists have such a hard-on for France? Legit question. I don't see how they're any different from any other "Western devil".[/QUOTE]
because france blows/has blown shit up in other first world countries too :v:
Why the fuck is France unable to catch a break? What did they even do?
Not saying this'd be justified even if they DID do something shitty, but what made people so mad at them?!
I like how France avoided the Iraq War, but now they're the ones getting shafted by the blow back. FeelsBadMan.
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[QUOTE=Richoxen;50713393]I like how France avoided the Iraq War, but now they're the ones getting shafted by the blow back. FeelsBadMan.[/QUOTE]
Blowback doesn't exist
If they pulled some shit during the Olympics France is going to have to pull a Dubya.
I mean it's either that or basically give the election to LePen and kiss the EU goodbye. People are sick of being afraid, they want a permanent solution, rather than a never ending state of emergency.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;50713285]Why do these terrorists have such a hard-on for France? Legit question. I don't see how they're any different from any other "Western devil".[/QUOTE]
France got the largest number of muslims in Western Europe, 5-10% of the population, and thereby also got the largest amount of Islamists within that muslim population. Belgium is a neighbouring country that also got a wast amount of muslims, Islamists from there have commited terror acts in France as well as in Belgium.
The more muslims in the country, naturally the more islamists will be in that muslim population which will commit terror acts. If other EU countries had such big muslim populations, risk for terror attacks would rise. It's pure statistics.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50713767]France got the largest number of muslims in Western Europe, 5-10% of the population, and thereby also got the largest amount of Islamists within that muslim population. Belgium is a neighbouring country that also got a wast amount of muslims, Islamists from there have commited terror acts in France as well as in Belgium.
The more muslims in the country, naturally the more islamists will be in that muslim population which will commit terror acts. If other countries had such big muslim populations, risk for terror attacks would rise. It's pure statistics.[/QUOTE]
it probably has more to do with proximity to the middle east as well. the US has millions more muslims than france yet has had far less attacks, and most of those have been far less successful than those in france
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50713903]it probably has more to do with proximity to the middle east as well. the US has millions more muslims than france yet has had far less attacks, and most of those have been far less successful than those in france[/QUOTE]
I think it also got to do with that In Europe, immigrated muslims congregate and/or are packed by governments in tight-knit muslim societies which becomes "a state in the state" while in US from what I heard and read they are much more spread out over the country. So then this muslim state within the state doesn't happen. There are so many of these places that have turned into no-go zones for ethnic europeans which should have shown long ago that this is a broken system and something needs to be done.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50713903]it probably has more to do with proximity to the middle east as well. the US has millions more muslims than france yet has had far less attacks, and most of those have been far less successful than those in france[/QUOTE]
The biggest difference here is because of World War 2. After the war was over, countries became richer, and there was a severe lack of people either capable or willing to do unskilled labor.
So the government came up with a plan to hire people from Southern Europe, so they could earn more money, go back to their own country after a couple of years, and since they had more money to spend than the average Southern European they would stimulate the economy there.
A few years later they decided to do the same with Turkish and Moroccan men, who wanted to earn a lot of money in a couple of years so they would have a better life for their families.
Now, this is all fine and dandy, but then politicians, mostly the left, fucked it up by introducing family reunification laws that would allow a guest worker have his family come over from his origin country.
Some of the people then brought over were on the more extreme side of Islam, as they lived in the country-side where there's some nasty Islamic branches that perform stuff like honor killings.
The problem here wasn't the reunification per se, but it was that the guest workers didn't speak the language, a lot of them couldn't even read, and they all lived in the same ghettos. There was no immigration policy for these people, they weren't taught the language, and they all lived among each other. The same counts for their families.
40 years later and in the Netherlands we're still dealing with the fallout of this failed immigration tactic.
France did something similar but with people from their colonies such as Algeria.
America is different because people from all over the world traveled to America to benefit from the economy, there was less of an opportunity to end up in a neighborhood with only a single culture, not that it didn't happen, because it did, but the problems were never resolved in the generations after the first one.
Ehh... not sure they have a chance, IMO. Brazil may be all fucked up, but a couple of muslims would stick out like a sore thumb in South America, wherever they go.
I don't think there are any "sleeping cells" in Brazil either.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50714171]Ehh... not sure they have a chance, IMO. Brazil may be all fucked up, but a couple of muslims would stick out like a sore thumb in South America, wherever they go.
I don't think there are any "sleeping cells" in Brazil either.[/QUOTE]
So far most terrorist attacks have been carried out by people that didn't look Muslim at all besides being brownish, so "they would stand out doesn't really work" because, well, everyone in Brazil is mostly brownish too.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;50713285]Why do these terrorists have such a hard-on for France? Legit question. I don't see how they're any different from any other "Western devil".[/QUOTE]
France did own Syria during the Interwar period, but that's grasping at the straws.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50714206]So far most terrorist attacks have been carried out by people that didn't look Muslim at all besides being brownish, so "they would stand out doesn't really work" because, well, everyone in Brazil is mostly brownish too.[/QUOTE]
True that. But if they count on flying over to Brazil and immolate themselves there, then I sure hope their Immigration department is on high alert.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50714171]Ehh... not sure they have a chance, IMO. Brazil may be all fucked up, but a couple of muslims would stick out like a sore thumb in South America, wherever they go.
I don't think there are any "sleeping cells" in Brazil either.[/QUOTE]
Ideology and fanaticism doesn't require a certain skin color.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;50714206]So far most terrorist attacks have been carried out by people that didn't look Muslim at all besides being brownish, so "they would stand out doesn't really work" because, well, everyone in Brazil is mostly brownish too.[/QUOTE]
1)That's a misconception
2)It's not the same kind of brown.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50713926]I think it also got to do with that In Europe, immigrated muslims congregate and/or are packed by governments in tight-knit muslim societies which becomes "a state in the state" while in US from what I heard and read they are much more spread out over the country. So then this muslim state within the state doesn't happen. There are so many of these places that have turned into no-go zones for ethnic europeans which should have shown long ago that this is a broken system and something needs to be done.[/QUOTE]
Part of it is also due to the fact many foreign born muslims in the US (and I think Canada as well) came as highly educated economic migrants over a longer period of time compared to Europe where a lot came as poorly educated refugees. That's not to say that there aren't terrorists with university degrees, but I think the combo of an internal motivation to succeed, a concrete goal, and an education that opens opportunities helps stave off radicalism.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50713767]France got the largest number of muslims in Western Europe, 5-10% of the population, and thereby also got the largest amount of Islamists within that muslim population. Belgium is a neighbouring country that also got a wast amount of muslims, Islamists from there have commited terror acts in France as well as in Belgium.
The more muslims in the country, naturally the more islamists will be in that muslim population which will commit terror acts. If other EU countries had such big muslim populations, risk for terror attacks would rise. It's pure statistics.[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't speak facts, people will get mad!
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50714171]Brazil may be all fucked up, but a couple of muslims would stick out like a sore thumb in South America, wherever they go.[/QUOTE]
that's bull. i'm brazilian, i've got muslim friends, they fit in quite nicely
[editline]15th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;50714573]1)That's a misconception [/QUOTE]
no it isn't?
Terrorists are going to push French athletes into the biohazard river.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;50714065]The biggest difference here is because of World War 2. After the war was over, countries became richer, and there was a severe lack of people either capable or willing to do unskilled labor.
So the government came up with a plan to hire people from Southern Europe, so they could earn more money, go back to their own country after a couple of years, and since they had more money to spend than the average Southern European they would stimulate the economy there.
A few years later they decided to do the same with Turkish and Moroccan men, who wanted to earn a lot of money in a couple of years so they would have a better life for their families.
Now, this is all fine and dandy, but then politicians, mostly the left, fucked it up by introducing family reunification laws that would allow a guest worker have his family come over from his origin country.
Some of the people then brought over were on the more extreme side of Islam, as they lived in the country-side where there's some nasty Islamic branches that perform stuff like honor killings.
The problem here wasn't the reunification per se, but it was that the guest workers didn't speak the language, a lot of them couldn't even read, and they all lived in the same ghettos. There was no immigration policy for these people, they weren't taught the language, and they all lived among each other. The same counts for their families.
40 years later and in the Netherlands we're still dealing with the fallout of this failed immigration tactic.
France did something similar but with people from their colonies such as Algeria.
America is different because people from all over the world traveled to America to benefit from the economy, there was less of an opportunity to end up in a neighborhood with only a single culture, not that it didn't happen, because it did, but the problems were never resolved in the generations after the first one.[/QUOTE]
100 times this. You said it better than I ever could.
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