Twitch.tv update imposes delay of up to 60s in all streams, viewer interaction severely affected. - Polidicks

Not many big alternatives to twitch. For no reason at all I've been permanently banned from the chat on Riot games streams and today was the first time I've been on it in about 2 months :v:

What's the point of live streaming if it isn't even live?

[QUOTE=diwako;43251565] Sometimes you just want to watch a trainwreck.[/QUOTE] I think he's going to be more of a trainwreck since he'll be unable to rely on his stream chat as much because of this one minute delay. Yet i still think he'll scape his way through.

twitch is doing a really good job at pissing off speedrunners these days huh First the juvenile 'remove horror' nonsense and now this [editline]20th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Highwind017;43253460]I think he's going to be more of a trainwreck since he'll be unable to rely on his stream chat as much because of this one minute delay. Yet i still think he'll scape his way through.[/QUOTE] When it comes to DSP, what I think and what happens are so totally different It's like someone asks him about buttered toast and he turns into cthulhu and melts into the floor and the floor tiles fly away amidst his laughing and complaints about not knowing about the buttered toast

For 4 years i have been using Livestream, i have never switched to any other provider since it supports A LOT more features then Twitch or anyone out there.

Maybe justin.tv won't have the delay but the site has become very confusing since twitch came about. in the way it works not the layout

[QUOTE=X-Neon;43248254]On the other hand, video streaming is incredibly bandwidth intensive. I'm not saying they don't have the money, but running a live streaming site on that scale must be really expensive.[/QUOTE] When YouTube, Twitch etc. chokes, it's not necessarily on your end, or on Twitch's end; it can be exactly in the middle, it can be a inter-peering link that's choking. My ISP does that; their service, connection etc is great, but the problem is that it's the equivalent to putting a porsche in the middle of a traffic jam; they purposely undersize their peering infrastructure because they think YouTube should be contributing to their bandwidth costs. As a result nearly every single site that is not hosted in France is slow during peak times. Unless you use a VPN which will bypass their peering routes. Point is: if you know it's not your connection having a problem, it's not necessarily the site in front of you either.

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43256585] As a result nearly every single site that is not hosted in France is slow during peak times. Unless you use a VPN which will bypass their peering routes. Point is: if you know it's not your connection having a problem, it's not necessarily the site in front of you either.[/QUOTE] Weird, I know that Comcast will go to the nearest peering exchange (Read: free for them, mostly) to get to connections that are on a different network, but extremely close. It's one of the reasons I'm switching to a smaller ISP, since they connect directly to Level3 and Cogent; they don't have a choice but to let me out the quickest way possible.

[QUOTE=Hoboiam;43240593]But what does this mean for VGCW/Salty Bet streams, which ride almost entirely on viewer feedback?[/QUOTE] The betting system is completely separate from the stream delay and would tell you the names of the characters regardless of the stream quality. It does suck that the system could tell you the outcome of the match 60 seconds before you SEE it, but it does not break SaltyBet itself in any way.

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43256585]When YouTube, Twitch etc. chokes, it's not necessarily on your end, or on Twitch's end; it can be exactly in the middle, it can be a inter-peering link that's choking. My ISP does that; their service, connection etc is great, but the problem is that it's the equivalent to putting a porsche in the middle of a traffic jam; they purposely undersize their peering infrastructure because they think YouTube should be contributing to their bandwidth costs. As a result nearly every single site that is not hosted in France is slow during peak times. Unless you use a VPN which will bypass their peering routes. Point is: if you know it's not your connection having a problem, it's not necessarily the site in front of you either.[/QUOTE] Sometimes you can block this by blocking your isps crap. The results will be hit and miss between various sites. Twitch used to have about a 40 second delay before I could watch anything as the player tried several times to contact the blocked servers. Eventually it would give up and default back to theirs and I'd have a lag free stream with a few seconds less delay than I would otherwise. Add on watching the stream in a media player as opposed to flash, and I was comfortably watching multiple HD streams at once with no problem. Then something changed and I couldn't figure out what and it stopped working.

[QUOTE=Amish Steak;43247176]first youtube, and now twitch is going down the shitter?[/QUOTE] 16 seconds in, facepunch doesn't let me embed time encoding [video=youtube;c2EKZ4J5t4c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EKZ4J5t4c&t=0m16sp[/video]

Simply navigating the site is an exercise in torture.

Oh for fuck sake, viewer interaction is the reason why I love streaming.

[QUOTE=TyHap;43260488]Oh for fuck sake, viewer interaction is the reason why I love streaming.[/QUOTE]Same. Take that away and you might as well watch a video on youtube.

I feel like it'd be much better to implement something like a quick to enable/disable function that'd add a half-minute to a minute delay or something. If MoBA streamers didn't want to turn it on, then it may as well be on them if the other team ghosts.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;43253381]What's the point of live streaming if it isn't even live?[/QUOTE] It appeals to the millions that use twitch to watch League.

[QUOTE=Kiq;43262571]I feel like it'd be much better to implement something like a quick to enable/disable function that'd add a half-minute to a minute delay or something. If MoBA streamers didn't want to turn it on, then it may as well be on them if the other team ghosts.[/QUOTE] streaming software already does this, and iirc partners get the option in twitch or something

Economics students, take note: This is what a monopoly looks like.

My friend's stream still just has a 6 seconds latency. What the hell is twitch smoking.