First A6 benchmarks show iPhone 5 faster than any Android device and iPad 3
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Windows Phone 8 has a ton of potential, being based on the same kernel as Windows RT and all.
I hate apple with a passion but I have to give it to them, it looks impressive benchmark wise.
[QUOTE=farmatyr;37696966]Still, the 1400mAh battery is pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
iPhones have some of the best battery life on smartphones, OS optimization and engineering FTW
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;37696808]And I'm sure the Galaxy S IV will outperform the iPhone 5, then Apple will release the 5s which will be even faster and the cycle will continue.
But the fact the Apple's dual core phone beats the 1.4 GHz quad-core Galaxy S III shows that having control over both the software and hardware has its advantages.[/QUOTE]
Ehh, maybe the small difference between the SGSIII and the iPhone 5. Not more. The rest is up to the fact that both the Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 use the old A9 architecture, and not the newer A15 or at least a hybrid. The Krait CPUs already outperform the A9 quad cores in some cases, and the quad core edition is coming out in not too long (read, this September). These benchmarks are impressive, but not groundbreaking. The quad-core Krait CPUs should (theoratically) outperform this by at least 800 points, and that's in just a few weeks. Still, props to Apple.
I cant comprehend how a 1,4 ghz quad core (S3) can be inferior to a 1,02 ghz dual core (iPhone 5) or a 1.3ghz quad core (nexus 7)
It depends on the architecture, the OS, the hardware. Just how an AMD 6-core processor is shittier than a quad-core i5 3750k
it still looks like shit so guess what
not gonna dolla
Haha, i'll believe this when I see it.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37694958]A dual core outperforming a quadcore, that's good engineering and OS optimization[/QUOTE]
The new TI OMAP 4470 in the Kindle Fire HD tablets is also a dual core Cortex-A9 chip, and Amazon claims it outperforms Tegra 3. This might very well be the case, but not in all benchmarks.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;37697484]I cant comprehend how a 1,4 ghz quad core (S3) can be inferior to a 1,02 ghz dual core (iPhone 5) or a 1.3ghz quad core (nexus 7)[/QUOTE]
As others have said, it's all about the architecture. For example, although the quad core chip of the Nexus has a faster tick rate (and of course, twice as many cores), the iPhone's slower tick rate dual core processor could do more things for every tick of the CPU. Adding two numbers on the iPhone's processor may only require one tick of the CPU while it may require 5 or 6 on the Nexus' processor.
Then there's also optimisations done through the software, and as both software and hardware of the iPhones are handled within Apple, their software engineers would more than likely have an excellent understanding of the hardware in the iPhone and how to best utilise it. This is compared to Android where there may be more overhead due to the Android development team having to code the system to be considerate of different kinds of hardware (or some shit like that, probably bullshit though).
Think Core 2 Quad VS i3 ivybridge (even nehalem).
[QUOTE=person11;37697011]Windows Phone 8 has a ton of potential, being based on the same kernel as Windows RT and all.[/QUOTE]
Which is great but still I don't think anyone will be trying to customize the device, the shit I've seen to do anything looks bad and stupid.
Pretty impressive but so is the pricetag.
I just have a hard time to see why we need these amazing powerfull phones. Feels like they getting better than my fucking pc. Does people to more than browse internet, check mail and play simple games?
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[QUOTE=notgoodatpc;37697935]Pretty impressive but so is the pricetag.
I just have a hard time to see why we need these amazing powerfull phones. Feels like they getting better than my fucking pc. Does people to more than browse internet, check mail and play simple games?
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The OS's themself are getting more and more fancier, however as seen iOS is pretty optimized for it but i don't really see why we need such a powerful CPU/GPU anyway.
It rarely reaches 100% or anything.
And the pricetag, its the same as Galaxy S3, [URL="http://www.phoneshop.nl/telefoon/11325/apple-iphone-4s-16gb-black-kpn"]iPhone 4S[/URL] (and soon 5) and [URL="http://www.pdashop.nl/product/201068/samsung-galaxy-siii-16gb-marble-white.html?ref=2531&utm_source=beslist&utm_medium=pricecomparison"]S3[/URL] are both the about the price (difference is 50-100 euro i thought, S3 being a tat cheaper)
[QUOTE=notgoodatpc;37697935]Pretty impressive but so is the pricetag.
I just have a hard time to see why we need these amazing powerfull phones. Feels like they getting better than my fucking pc. Does people to more than browse internet, check mail and play simple games?
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I agree, and I wish Android would work on optimization instead of just upping the cores and clock speeds.
But mainly, people want to multitask more on their phones, and Google wants to run more background processes.
I just hope that all this progress on the high end will also trickle down to the low end.
I haven't really followed the news about the iPhone 5, how's the battery life on this thing ? The 4S had pretty poor battery life as far as I remembered, and with such specs I'd guess the iPhone 5 doesn't really have a better one.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;37697975]The OS's themself are getting more and more fancier, however as seen iOS is pretty optimized for it but i don't really see why we need such a powerful CPU/GPU anyway.
It rarely reaches 100% or anything.
And the pricetag, its the same as Galaxy S3, [URL="http://www.phoneshop.nl/telefoon/11325/apple-iphone-4s-16gb-black-kpn"]iPhone 4S[/URL] (and soon 5) and [URL="http://www.pdashop.nl/product/201068/samsung-galaxy-siii-16gb-marble-white.html?ref=2531&utm_source=beslist&utm_medium=pricecomparison"]S3[/URL] are both the about the price (difference is 50-100 euro i thought, S3 being a tat cheaper)[/QUOTE]
I see your point yes, there are a slight different in price but I did not say s3 was cheap. I think everything over like 300€ for a phone is insane but that might be because I just call on my phone and does the other things on my PC.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;37698000]I agree, and I wish Android would work on optimization instead of just upping the cores and clock speeds.
But mainly, people want to multitask more on their phones, and Google wants to run more background processes.
I just hope that all this progress on the high end will also trickle down to the low end.[/QUOTE]
If Google would write Android in Native code it would be a hell of a lot better.
Also keep an eye for Samsung's A15 SoC the Exynos 5, looks pretty damn promising.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;37698016]I haven't really followed the news about the iPhone 5, how's the battery life on this thing ? The 4S had pretty poor battery life as far as I remembered, and with such specs I'd guess the iPhone 5 doesn't really have a better one.[/QUOTE]
Your memory is flawed. iPhone has really good battery life. The battery is small, but the optimization is extremely good.
[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;37698029]Your memory is flawed. iPhone has really good battery life. The battery is small, but the optimization is extremely good.[/QUOTE]
Well I have a 3GS and the battery can very easily hold for an entire day if I play games and stuff. Otherwise it holds for up to three days if I just listen to music and send a few texts every now and then.
But I've heard the 4S had poor battery life, mainly because of the improved specs which were taking of lot of power. I guess I was wrong, thanks for clarifying.
You also have to consider the price difference the new iPhone only scores a bit better (talking about this benchmark) opposed to phones/tablets that are (in the Netherlands) 100-200 euro cheaper.
Is there any point to the new longer design though ? Did they just do it to have more space to fit stuff in ?
Honestly I can't really see any good application to the new shape. It just looks inconvenient.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;37698109]Is there any point to the new longer design though ? Did they just do it to have more space to fit stuff in ?
Honestly I can't really see any good application to the new shape. It just looks inconvenient.[/QUOTE]
They talked about how it should be easier to hold than any other 4+" shapped phone and how it should still be controllable with one hand while it has a higher resolution screen.
To be honest what I REALLY would need in my phone is a good way to hook it up to a keyboard/monitor.
[QUOTE=Killuah;37698139]To be honest what I REALLY would need in my phone is a good way to hook it up to a keyboard/monitor.[/QUOTE]
You could get a phone with an hdmi output and an usb on-the-go adapter.
[QUOTE=sparky28000;37698152]You could get a phone with an hdmi output and an usb on-the-go adapter.[/QUOTE]
It would be better if Apple stopped being a dick and added more compatibility/outputs on their phone. Seriously, the device is great, but it could really use more stuff compatible with other devices.
[QUOTE=sparky28000;37698152]You could get a phone with an hdmi output and an usb on-the-go adapter.[/QUOTE]
Or an MHL connector.
uhhh... the s3 quad is still higher. sorry.
Samsung Galaxy S III
Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz (4 cores)
[B]1628 [/B]
Asus Nexus 7
NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L 1300 MHz (4 cores)
[B]1604 [/B]
what?
[url]http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks[/url]
[url]http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks[/url]
[url]http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202[/url]
[QUOTE=sparky28000;37698152]You could get a phone with an hdmi output and an usb on-the-go adapter.[/QUOTE]
I have the galaxy i9000
The thing is, I really don't see me buying a new phone unless this one breaks.
Well, never thought I would write this, but good job Apple. Nice optimization and engineering.
Still gonna stick with my Galaxy S3 though, and probably will for the next three years.
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