• First A6 benchmarks show iPhone 5 faster than any Android device and iPad 3
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[QUOTE=xiohexia;37698190]uhhh... the s3 quad is still higher. sorry. Samsung Galaxy S III Samsung Exynos 4412 1400 MHz (4 cores) [B]1628 [/B] Asus Nexus 7 NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L 1300 MHz (4 cores) [B]1604 [/B] what? [url]http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks[/url] [url]http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks[/url] [url]http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202[/url][/QUOTE] Funny how those two quad core phones just barely manage to beat the iPhone 5's dual core processor which also has a roughly 25% slower clock.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;37697484]I cant comprehend how a 1,4 ghz quad core (S3) can be inferior to a 1,02 ghz dual core (iPhone 5) or a 1.3ghz quad core (nexus 7)[/QUOTE] The Nexus 7 and iPhone both have boosts because of software optimisation. The iPhone uses Apple designed cores that are similar to Cortex-A15 ones, they're a generation ahead of the Cortex-A9s used in the S III.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;37695235]you also forget optimization, iOS is custom made for certain hardware, Android is one size fits all iOS will always be smoother and feel more responsive[/QUOTE] My S3 running a custom jelly bean rom is the smoothest device I have ever seen, hands down destroys any other phone, tablet or netbook.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;37698364]Funny how those two quad core phones just barely manage to beat the iPhone 5's dual core processor which also has a roughly 25% slower clock.[/QUOTE] Optimisation between different specs makes a big difference just look at console games, a lot easier to optimise the games assuming they are not too graphic intensive seeing ps3 and 360 only have one set of specs
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37698572]My S3 running a custom jelly bean rom is the smoothest device I have ever seen, hands down destroys any other phone, tablet or netbook.[/QUOTE] how's your battery life
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;37696808]And I'm sure the Galaxy S IV will outperform the iPhone 5, then Apple will release the 5s which will be even faster and the cycle will continue. [/QUOTE] then all phones will explode in people's pockets.
[QUOTE=entertainer89;37698572]My S3 running a custom jelly bean rom is the smoothest device I have ever seen, hands down destroys any other phone, tablet or netbook.[/QUOTE] Well you've clearly never used an iOS device or WP7 device. Yes, Jelly Bean may make the UI and system menus smoothish but apps are still pretty laggy unless they they're designed for 4.x + They iPhone has been doing this (being smooth) for ages on single core models too. Also for the post below me, I know. I do own one.
Can't wait for people to stop fawning over thinner phones so we can cram more battery into them. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=PyroCF;37698604]Well you've clearly never used an iOS device or WP7 device. Yes, Jelly Bean may make the UI and system menus smoothish but apps are still pretty laggy unless they they're designed for 4.x +[/QUOTE] Not really, the whole UX pipeline was improved, now it's a lot faster.
[QUOTE=danharibo;37698606]Can't wait for people to stop fawning over thinner phones so we can cram more battery into them. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] Not really, the whole UX pipeline was improved, now it's a lot faster.[/QUOTE] Nope. Apps not built specifically for Jellybean operate the same way as they did on ICS/GB on the Galaxy Nexus running 4.1.1. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=entertainer89;37698572]My S3 running a custom jelly bean rom is the smoothest device I have ever seen, hands down destroys any other phone, tablet or netbook.[/QUOTE] Your statement is contrary to reality. iOS and WP7 run consistently at 60fps, you can not get smoother than that with all these mobile panels being 60hz.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;37698652]Nope. Apps not built specifically for Jellybean operate the same way as they did on ICS/GB on the Galaxy Nexus running 4.1.1. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] Your statement is contrary to reality. iOS and WP7 run consistently at 60fps, you can not get smoother than that with all these mobile panels being 60hz.[/QUOTE] It has nothing to do with Apps, they changed how invalidation and re-drawing is handled.
smoothness does not mean anything if the phone does not function correctly. all my peers and co workers have had consistant problems with their iPhones, and call clarity is pretty horrible from what I've experienced. iPhone is good for everything but being a phone
[QUOTE=danharibo;37698696]It has nothing to do with Apps, they changed how invalidation and re-drawing is handled.[/QUOTE] They still run horribly on the Galaxy Nexus we've got. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=redBadger;37698738]smoothness does not mean anything if the phone does not function correctly. all my peers and co workers have had consistant problems with their iPhones, and call clarity is pretty horrible from what I've experienced. iPhone is good for everything but being a phone[/QUOTE] The iPhone is typically known as a phone that just works. Instead of making some vague baseless statement how about you provide some EVIDENCE?
[QUOTE=garrynohome;37698746]They still run horribly on the Galaxy Nexus we've got. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] The iPhone is typically known as a phone that just works. Instead of making some vague baseless statement how about you provide some EVIDENCE?[/QUOTE] So you say "This sucks on the phone X" then complain when someone else voices their complaints about phone Y?
[QUOTE=danharibo;37698764]So you say "This sucks on the phone X" then complain when someone else voices their complaints about phone Y?[/QUOTE] I explained my complaints, I find app performance unsatisfactory in pretty much any application. He's just giving some statement that says people had " constant problems". What kind of problems? Were they with the hardware? The software? Apps on the phone? Were they jailbroken? It's a baseless statement without this type of info, and you trying to make it look like I'm trying to stomp out any complaints about iPhones is childish.
[QUOTE=garrynohome;37698774]I explained my complaints, I find app performance unsatisfactory in pretty much any application. He's just giving some statement that says people had " constant problems". What kind of problems? Were they with the hardware? The software? Apps on the phone? Were they jailbroken? It's a baseless statement without this type of info, and you trying to make it look like I'm trying to stomp out any complaints about iPhones is childish.[/QUOTE] [quote=redBadger]call clarity is pretty horrible from what I've experienced.[/quote]
That was an experience he had had that he himself listed in addition to other unspecified problems. Constant problems is a plural statement. I like how you point that out as though I'm not reading the posts properly but I'm clearly looking over them more thoroughly than you are.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;37698364]Funny how those two quad core phones just barely manage to beat the iPhone 5's dual core processor which also has a roughly 25% slower clock.[/QUOTE] I'm not very familiar with CPU architecture and how it affects performance, but I thought that that's exactly what happens when you put a more and less cores against each other on a simple task? The main purpose of multi core processors is to be more efficient in multitasking, and a single core processor with a similarly effective architecture and clock speed could outperform a multi core on a simple task, because things don't always take advantage of all of the cores?
i'm still on an old ass blackberry, i guess the only reason i'll ever have to move on from it is if there's some really great applications for any of the new phones
Oh great. Now even smartphones have benchmark e-peen waggling going on. And here I thought I escaped this shit when I stopped focusing on the PC overclocking scene. What happened to "It's fast enough to do what I want and I like it, who cares what's faster"?
[QUOTE=TestECull;37698933]Oh great. Now even smartphones have benchmark e-peen waggling going on. And here I thought I escaped this shit when I stopped focusing on the PC overclocking scene. What happened to "It's fast enough to do what I want and I like it, who cares what's faster"?[/QUOTE] Mobile epeen has been going on for quite some time now.
like i said before, speed means nothing if you phone has problems
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;37698581]how's your battery life[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/amdzzt.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Maucer;37698803]I'm not very familiar with CPU architecture and how it affects performance, but I thought that that's exactly what happens when you put a more and less cores against each other on a simple task? The main purpose of multi core processors is to be more efficient in multitasking, and a single core processor with a similarly effective architecture and clock speed could outperform a multi core on a simple task, because things don't always take advantage of all of the cores?[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Depending entirely on the task, and the architecture of the processors being compared, a dual core can easily outperform a quad core (look at i3 versus AMD Phenom II x4 in some tasks, the i3 can beat it I believe). Newer architectures are usually a lot faster and more efficient in multiple ways, and if the task doesn't take advantage of multiple cores then you aren't really going to see a benefit to them. So this benchmark could be giving this result because Apple used a newer architecture, or because the tasks just weren't using all the cores to their fullest. The newer architecture is much more likely I'd say. But it still isn't an indicator of real world performance.
Less than a week ago we all hated the iPhone Are we bipolar
We also have to remeber that this result isn't confirmed legit. Don't want to be the tinfoilhatter here, but given Apple's current moral compass (in the courts of law for example) It is entirely possible that the results (or device from which they are from) has been forged. I am not the only one to question this: [url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/6298/analyzing-iphone5-geekbench-results[/url] "I need to preface the rest of this post with a giant caution sign: I have no inside knowledge of whether or not these results are legitimate. They seem believable, but anything can happen. The rest of this post is simply my initial thoughts on what these mean, should the results be accurate." I am not trying to be an Apple basher here, if when the Iphone 5 comes out and is benched independently, and it comes out the same this can be discarded, but until then no-one really knows.
[QUOTE=GameDev;37699194]Less than a week ago we all hated the iPhone Are we bipolar[/QUOTE] Still hate it
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;37697484]I cant comprehend how a 1,4 ghz quad core (S3) can be inferior to a 1,02 ghz dual core (iPhone 5) or a 1.3ghz quad core (nexus 7)[/QUOTE] it's called software optimization. When you're building an OS JUST for one specific processor, then you can get much more power out of it because you can optimize everything to work for that specific processor. It is the same case with OSX, which runs much faster even in older mac models with older processors than Windows, because it is optimized for those specific processors. Same case with consoles, that despite the fact that their hardware is old as shit, they can still deliver rather good graphics because devs can work on that specific set of hardware. Same case with windows phone, that only allows OEMs to use an specific processor, therefore you have 3 year old processors running smoother than your latest high-end android phone (OS performance wise)
[QUOTE=GameDev;37699194]Less than a week ago we all hated the iPhone Are we bipolar[/QUOTE] We don't like it any more than we did before, but we'll give credit where it's due, especially if there's a graph involved.
[QUOTE=redBadger;37698986]like i said before, speed means nothing if you phone has problems[/QUOTE] mo speedy, mo problems [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=GameDev;37699194]Less than a week ago we all hated the iPhone Are we bipolar[/QUOTE] We like the SoC and the optimization, but not the rest of it.
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;37699248]We don't like it any more than we did before, but we'll give credit where it's due, especially if there's a graph involved.[/QUOTE] Graphs and numbers and shit. Must be science. You wouldn't doubt science would you?
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