Iranian news agency: US Recognizes Iran's right to nuclear utility. (???) - Polidicks

[release] [QUOTE]Swiss Ambassador to Tehran Livia Leu Agosti attended a meeting with senior Iranian foreign ministry officials a few days ago to submit a letter from the US president to Tehran leaders. Vice-Chairman of the Iranian Parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Hossein Ebrahimi told FNA that during the meeting, Agosti had told the Iranian officials that President Barack Obama recognizes Iran's right of access and use of the nuclear technology. [B]"There are a couple of points with regard to this (US) message (to Iran)," Ebrahimi said and added, "Firstly, during the session to submit the message, the Swiss ambassador to Tehran quoted the US president as saying that 'we (the US) recognize your nuclear rights'." [/B] As regards the second issue, the lawmaker said that the [B]Swiss diplomat had also quoted Obama as saying that "I didn't want to impose sanctions on your central bank but I had no options but to approve it since a Congress majority had approved the decision." [/B] Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast said on Sunday that Iran has received a US message regarding the Strait of Hormoz via three different channels. "The US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice had handed a letter to Iran's Ambassador to the UN Mohammad Khazayee; the Swiss Ambassador to Tehran (Livia Leu Agosti) also conveyed the same thing; and Iraqi President Jalal Talabani delivered the same message to Iranian officials," he said last Sunday. The US letter follows threats by Iran last month to shut off the Strait of Hormoz - the world's most important oil shipping lane - if new US and EU sanctions over its nuclear program halted Iranian oil exports. Then the United States said it would not allow Iran to block the Strait, calling it a "red line" for the US military. In reply, Lieutenant Commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Brigadier General Hossein Salami dismissed the US warning over the closure of the strategic strait, and stressed that powerful Iran acts on its own and never asks for anyone's permission to carry out what it desires. "The US is not in a position" to affect Iran's decisions, Salami told FNA late in December. "Iran does not ask permission to implement its own defensive strategies." Meantime, US Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Martin Dempsey acknowledged that Iran is able to close the Strait of Hormuz. "They've invested in capabilities that could, in fact, for a period of time block the Strait of Hormoz," Dempsey said in an interview aired on the CBS "Face the Nation" program.[/QUOTE] [/release] [URL="http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171941"]News source[/URL] I'm not sure if this is true or false, take it with a grain of salt. FARS is a fairly reputable news agency and this article is fairly out of line with US policy.

They don't seem to understand, they can't just blockade a valuable shipping lane, for any reason, not when many countries use it. Sure, you don't really NEED anyones permission to park a truck in the center of a busy street to block traffic, but don't start crying when people get a little pissed off and MAKE you move it. They do have nuclear rights. If they are pursuing peaceful nuclear power, that's fine, however they won't let anyone know what they are actually doing. It's incredibly suspicious.

That's actually a strange thing for FARS to say, especially with everything that has been going on. Maybe there is truth in it.

Maybe if we gave Iran a little more breathing space they wouldn't feel the NEED to be so defensive and would have less need for nuclear weapons. They're not trying to spread a muslim revolution worldwide or anything, I don't see why they'd nuke America unless they felt threatened.

[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;34328514]Maybe if we gave Iran a little more breathing space they wouldn't feel the NEED to be so defensive and would have less need for nuclear weapons. They're not trying to spread a muslim revolution worldwide or anything, I don't see why they'd nuke America unless they felt threatened.[/QUOTE] if we give those commie terrorists any more room to breathe they'll infect our christian air with homosexuality and muslim satanism

They have a right as a country to utilize nuclear power to benefit their own citizens with a cheap, reliable energy source. They do not have the right to make nuclear weapons and hide them from other countries.

[QUOTE=TheCloak;34329781]They have a right as a country to utilize nuclear power to benefit their own citizens with a cheap, reliable energy source. [B]They do not have the right to make nuclear weapons and hide them from other countries.[/B][/QUOTE] Why not?

[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;34328514]Maybe if we gave Iran a little more breathing space they wouldn't feel the NEED to be so defensive and would have less need for nuclear weapons. They're not trying to spread a muslim revolution worldwide or anything, I don't see why they'd nuke America unless they felt threatened.[/QUOTE]First of all, there is no evidence that they are trying to make nuclear weaponry. Second of all, more nuclear weaponry is bad, under any circumstances. It doesn't matter who it is, nobody should have nuclear weapons. Third, the only reason the U.S. has become so involved with Iran recently is because of their growing interest in nuclear energy, which has the U.S. scared.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34329909]Why not?[/QUOTE] Because they are on the wrong team.

Damn them! They're standing up to US!

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34329909]Why not?[/QUOTE] Do I really need to explain this to you?

[QUOTE=TheCloak;34330072]Do I really need to explain this to you?[/QUOTE] Go ahead, if they can't have nukes you can't have nukes either.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330083]Go ahead, if they can't have nukes you can't have nukes either.[/QUOTE] Considering their government is impulsive enough to torture and hang people for minor things, I would hate to see them with nuclear weapons.

[QUOTE=TheCloak;34329781]They have a right as a country to utilize nuclear power to benefit their own citizens with a cheap, reliable energy source. They do not have the right to make nuclear weapons and hide them from other countries.[/QUOTE] Going to have to disagree here. They have the right to do whatever the hell they like including making nuclear weapons and hiding them from other countries. It would just be best for our interests if they didn't.

[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;34330101]Considering their government is impulsive enough to torture and hang people for minor things, I would hate to see them with nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] Law of the land =/= Nuclear program. I guess you're going to say the US can't have nukes either because you have a highly corrupt system of government who does not represent the people and punishes their citizens for minor things such as moving a file from one PC to another.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330141]Law of the land =/= Nuclear program. I guess you're going to say the US can't have nukes either because you have a highly corrupt system of government who does not represent the people and punishes their citizens for minor things such as moving a file from one PC to another.[/QUOTE] i dont see how being tortured and executed compares to being arrested

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330141]Law of the land =/= Nuclear program. I guess you're going to say the US can't have nukes either because you have a highly corrupt system of government who does not represent the people and punishes their citizens for minor things such as moving a file from one PC to another.[/QUOTE] Fining for piracy doesnt equal hanging for a similar crime. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Valdor;34330217]i dont see how being tortured and executed compares to being arrested[/QUOTE] Exactly this.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330141]-what-[/QUOTE] Yes the US has a retarded government. So does the UK So does Russia. So does Pakistan. So does Iran. Why pick the US to single out to say "nukes are bad for the US but Iran should have them"

[QUOTE=Valdor;34330217]i dont see how being tortured and executed compares to being arrested[/QUOTE] He has a point. The US government hasn't represented its people for ages. What is the president but a figurehead who can make small changes to domestic policy but is powerless to oppose congress and corporations? Especially when corporations can legally bribe politicians, so long as they call it a 'contribution?'

[QUOTE=Zambies!;34330251]Yes the US has a retarded government. So does the UK So does Russia. So does Pakistan. So does Iran. Why pick the US to single out to say "nukes are bad for the US but Iran should have them"[/QUOTE] I never said nukes were bad, nukes are good as they keep the peace.

[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;34328514]Maybe if we gave Iran a little more breathing space they wouldn't feel the NEED to be so defensive and would have less need for nuclear weapons. They're not trying to spread a muslim revolution worldwide or anything, I don't see why they'd nuke America unless they felt threatened.[/QUOTE] They are trying to spread a sharia revolution in the middle east. In fact Iran has been trying to take credit and assert influence upon many of the arab spring countries. Iran wants to be the main regional power in the middle east.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34330319]They are trying to spread a sharia revolution in the middle east. In fact Iran has been trying to take credit and assert influence upon many of the arab spring countries. Iran wants to be the main regional power in the middle east.[/QUOTE] What does every powerful country try to do in their region.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;34329977]First of all, there is no evidence that they are trying to make nuclear weaponry. Second of all, more nuclear weaponry is bad, under any circumstances. It doesn't matter who it is, nobody should have nuclear weapons. Third, the only reason the U.S. has become so involved with Iran recently is because of their growing interest in nuclear energy, which has the U.S. scared.[/QUOTE] I would say having nuclear weapons is incredibly good. It prevents full scale wars between powers that have the weapons. If it hadn't been for nuclear weaponry, there is a good chance that NATO and the Warsaw Pact countries would have duked it out.

If Iran gets nukes, the US doesn't fuck with them because they might use them if fucked with. Iranian 'martyrs' won't carry out terrorist attacks in the USA, the West won't enter another war it can't win, and everyone's happy.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330355]What does every powerful country try to do in their region.[/QUOTE] I would say Iran is an incredibly bad choice of country to lead a region in any fashion. They are a bad example for the middle east to follow.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330355]What does every [B]powerful[/B] country try to do in their region.[/QUOTE] why does every powerful country try to exert their power allowing them to maintain their position of power???

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34330382]I would say Iran is an incredibly bad choice of country to lead a region in any fashion. They are a bad example for the middle east to follow.[/QUOTE] Which country in the middle east would you recommend for this task? Iran is alot more civilized then the rest of the middle east. [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Contag;34330411]why does every powerful country try to exert their power allowing them to maintain their position of power???[/QUOTE] Because they want to maintain their interests.

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34330417]Which country in the middle east would you recommend for this task? [editline]21st January 2012[/editline] Because they want to maintain their interests.[/QUOTE] Egypt and Turkey are far more forward thinking countries as far as social liberalism and democracy are concerned.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;34330382]I would say Iran is an incredibly bad choice of country to lead a region in any fashion. They are a bad example for the middle east to follow.[/QUOTE] So, by that standard, is U.S. government foreign policy. They've assassinated hundreds of people who would be unsympathetic to US interests in the governments of third-world countries around the world and they've abused every economic advantage, completely fucking up the economies of smaller countries through the use of the IMF and World Bank. They're incredibly irresponsible and a terrible example. Mind you, I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm no fan of Iran, but my opinion - and yours - has nothing to do with their right to have nuclear weapons.

[QUOTE=archangel125;34330463]So, by that standard, is U.S. government foreign policy. They've assassinated hundreds of people who would be unsympathetic to US interests in the governments of third-world countries around the world and they've abused every economic advantage, completely fucking up the economies of smaller countries through the use of the IMF and World Bank. They're incredibly irresponsible and a terrible example. Mind you, I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm no fan of Iran, but my opinion - and yours - has nothing to do with their right to have nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] The US is not a good example to follow either. Anyways, Iran doesn't really have the rights to develop nuclear weapons, but I think it's about the time where you can't deny them from Iran any longer in any practical sense.