13 Year Old America Hater Suspended from School for Wiping Filthy Communist Hands on Glorious Americ - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264349]Well, it's the nation's flag, it needs to be treated with respect. Hell the kid's 13 years old, he should know better then to wipe his godamned hands on the flag.[/QUOTE] I may not understand, and if I offend you in advance, then I apologise. However, I simply do not see what the significance of a single piece of cloth is. It is composed of fibres that when woven together create a flat piece of cloth, and the colours on it are arranged in such a way so as to represent the symbol that is used by people or organisations to denote they belong to a area of land. Wiping my hands on it? There is no problem with that. It does no damage. It does literally nothing to it but put molecules of H2O on it, that evaporate anyways. Why does this inanimate textile have greater priorities than somebody who was doing something completely harmless to it?

[QUOTE=Archimedes;36264640]And Georgia.[/QUOTE] We should be the chopsticks state instead of the peach state.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;36264292]You guys and your obsession with your queens and princes.[/QUOTE] I dont think brits are well known for giving a shit about our royalty.

To be fair it was pretty immature of him, regardless of your opinion.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264349]Well, it's the nation's flag, it needs to be treated with respect. Hell the kid's 13 years old, he should know better then to wipe his godamned hands on the flag.[/QUOTE] what if it's an American Flag Patterned napkin [img]http://www.blogography.com/photos8/FlagNapkins.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=redBadger;36264743]To be fair it was pretty immature of him, regardless of your opinion.[/QUOTE] Nothing else to wipe his hands upon, plus its just a piece of cloth.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264349]Well, it's the nation's flag, it needs to be treated with respect. Hell the kid's 13 years old, he should know better then to wipe his godamned hands on the flag.[/QUOTE] We've had a lot of people [I]burn[/I] our fucking flags and we didn't give a shit. We don't respect anything here, that's pretty much why the flag burning situation arose.

I wouldn't even care if someone defecated on my flag. It's just a flag.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36264720]I may not understand, and if I offend you in advance, then I apologise. However, I simply do not see what the significance of a single piece of cloth is. It is composed of fibres that when woven together create a flat piece of cloth, and the colours on it are arranged in such a way so as to represent the symbol that is used by people or organisations to denote they belong to a area of land. Wiping my hands on it? There is no problem with that. It does no damage. It does literally nothing to it but put molecules of H2O on it, that evaporate anyways. Why does this inanimate textile have greater priorities than somebody who was doing something completely harmless to it?[/QUOTE] Then why have flags at all? Flags are a symbol of the nation or organization. Wiping your hands on the flag is pretty disrespectful. It's basically saying "I don't think highly of the things this flag represents". That's why flag burning is a big deal, and why flying the flag upside down is a big deal. These things are very symbolic gestures. The kid probably shouldn't have gotten suspended, but the teacher should have explained how rude it is to wipe your hands on a nation's flag.

I have american, british and finnish flag bath towels of which I wipe my nuts on, by the teachers logic I should be executed :v: wiki: [quote]United States The flag of the United States is sometimes symbolically burnt, often in protest of the policies of the American government, both within the country and abroad. The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of a flag, due to its status as "symbolic speech." However, content-neutral restrictions may still be imposed to regulate the time, place, and manner of such expression. In 1862, during the Union army's occupation of New Orleans in the American Civil War, the military governor, Benjamin Franklin Butler, sentenced William B. Mumford to death for removing an American flag. In 1864 John Greenleaf Whittier wrote the poem Barbara Frietchie, which told of a (probably fictional) incident in which Confederate soldiers were deterred from defacing an American flag. The poem contains the famous lines: "Shoot, if you must, this old gray head, But spare your country's flag," she said. During the United States involvement in the Vietnam War American flags were sometimes burned during anti-war protest demonstrations.[68] After the Johnson and Eichman decisions, several flag burning amendments to the Constitution were proposed. On 22 June 2005, a Flag Desecration Amendment was passed by the House with the needed two-thirds majority. On 27 June 2006, another attempt to pass a ban on flag burning was rejected by the Senate in a close vote of 65 in favor, 34 opposed, one vote short of the two-thirds majority needed to send the amendment to be voted on by the states.[69] Flying an American flag upside down is not necessarily meant as political protest. The practice has its origin in a distress signal; displaying a flag in this manner is "a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property";[70] it has been used by extension to make a statement about distress in civic, political, or other areas. Upside-down flying of the flag was ruled constitutional in Spence v. Washington, a 1974 Supreme Court ruling.[71] Actions portraying the flag being flown upside down can be witnessed through American rock band Rage Against The Machine at the Democratic Convention in 2000.[72][/quote] So it appears flag desecration isn't illegal in the US, meaning the teachers reaction was solely personal, how about that

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264349]Well, it's the nation's flag, it needs to be treated with respect. Hell the kid's 13 years old, he should know better then to wipe his godamned hands on the flag.[/QUOTE] Oh, sorry. I must have forgotten that washing your hands on a flag is illegal.

[QUOTE=Bobie;36264657]breaking news: it's only a flag, it doesnt fucking matter[/QUOTE] To be fair, some people would get upset over this sort of thing in any country. Flags are symbols of a country's sovereignty, individuality, and pride. It even, in some ways, details the origins of a country. Some hold these values quite dearly to themselves, not just in the United States, but all over the world- and for different reasons. It's simply out of respect, like covering your mouth when sneezing or shaking hands as a congratulation, that you don't do this sort of thing to [I]any[/I] nation's flag. You may not care about it ~"it's just a piece of cloth"~ but some people do care, and we should respect that (Of course, I'm referring to public hangings of flags in schools, embassies, and whatnot. I suppose you can do whatever you please with a personal flag). Personally, I've traveled many places- China, Australia, Vietnam, Philippines, Singapore to name a few- and regardless of how I feel about the country or its people, I still respect the flag in the same way that I respect their landmarks or even a plain old church or synagogue (or public property in general, really). Do I agree with the school's decision to suspend the kid? No. Do I agree what he did was disrespectful? Yes. All that needed to be done is tell the kid what he had done wrong and ask him not to do it again (or at least not get caught). [QUOTE=Charybdis;36264906]I have american, british and finnish flag bath towels of which I wipe my nuts on, by the teachers logic I should be executed :v: [/QUOTE] You seem to miss the point. The flag is printed on a towel and should be used as a towel. This, however- from the sound of things, was a public banner of the flag. The difference is easily distinguishable.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;36264930]Oh, sorry. I must have forgotten that washing your hands on a flag is illegal.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, I must have forgotten that the legality of something has anything to do with how respectful or tactful that act is.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;36264863]Then why have flags at all? Flags are a symbol of the nation or organization. Wiping your hands on the flag is pretty disrespectful. It's basically saying "I don't think highly of the things this flag represents". That's why flag burning is a big deal, and why flying the flag upside down is a big deal. These things are very symbolic gestures. The kid probably shouldn't have gotten suspended, but the teacher should have explained how rude it is to wipe your hands on a nation's flag.[/QUOTE] It's a piece of cloth. It is literally a piece of woven fabric. I don't even care if you took a picture of my country and shoved it up your ass, it just seems so incredibly petty and pointless to see a flag being "Disgraced" as being a punishable offence.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;36264948]I'm sorry, I must have forgotten that the legality of something has anything to do with how respectful or tactful that act is.[/QUOTE] But we americans get offended over the littlest things. It's like if you accidentally drop the goddamn flag, you're attempting to start a anarchist/socialist/communist uprising. The fact is, it's fabric that can easily be replaced

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;36264930]Oh, sorry. I must have forgotten that washing your hands on a flag is illegal.[/QUOTE] Where did I say it was illegal. Point that out, please.

[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;36264931]To be fair, some people would get upset over this sort of thing in any country. Flags are symbols of a country's sovereignty, individuality, and pride. It even, in some ways, details the origins of a country. Some hold these values quite dearly to themselves, not just in the United States, but all over the world- and for different reasons. It's simply out of respect, like covering your mouth when sneezing or shaking hands as a congratulation, that you don't do this sort of thing to [I]any[/I] nation's flag. You may not care about it ~"it's just a piece of cloth"~ but some people do care, and we should respect that (Of course, I'm referring to public hangings of flags in schools, embassies, and whatnot. I suppose you can do whatever you please with a personal flag). Personally, I've traveled many places- China, Australia, Vietnam, Philippines, Singapore to name a few- and regardless of how I feel about the country or its people, I still respect the flag in the same way that I respect their landmarks or even a plain old church or synagogue (or public property in general, really). Do I agree with the school's decision to suspend the kid? No. Do I agree what he did was disrespectful? Yes. All that needed to be done is tell the kid what he had done wrong and ask him not to do it again (or at least not get caught). You seem to miss the point. The flag is printed on a towel and should be used as a towel. This, however- from the sound of things, was a public banner of the flag. The difference is easily distinguishable.[/QUOTE] the only thing that kid did wrong was vandalize the private property which was the flag, but if there are people that seriously think that wiping your hands on a flag makes an attack on the pride and dignity of a country then they are ill-informed of the atrocities the US has been causing overseas and to it's own people for the last 60 years. i respect elements of culture such as religious items etc, but a cheap, plastic, chinese-made flag bought by the school to keep soccer moms from having a hissy-fit is in no way relative to an item of significant cultural importance. the only people that should be annoyed with it are the owners of the flag.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36264969]It's a piece of cloth. It is literally a piece of woven fabric. I don't even care if you took a picture of my country and shoved it up your ass, it just seems so incredibly petty and pointless to see a flag being "Disgraced" as being a punishable offence.[/QUOTE] Symbols mean something, whether you believe that or not. I agree that disrespect towards the flag should not be punishable, but that has nothing to do with whether it's disrespectful or not.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264517]So would you be happy with me wiping my wet hands all over [I]your[/I] flag? Probably not[/QUOTE] by all means, feel free to wipe your sweaty bollocks on the union jack, you can even roll it up and use it as butt floss for all i care.

He desecrated the flag? CRUCIFY HIM.

[QUOTE=Jackald;36264917]I remember when The Sun did a report on some Fundamentalist Muslims burning union jacks (uk flags), and all the comments were just sarcastic ones like "Well that's not going to be very eco friendly" and "those kids shouldn't be playing with fire"[/QUOTE] It's like what David Mitchell said, it isn't [I]our[/I] flag they're burning, it's [I]their[/I] flag, [I]they[/I] bought it [QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;36264931]You seem to miss the point. The flag is printed on a towel and should be used as a towel. This, however- from the sound of things, was a public banner of the flag. The difference is easily distinguishable.[/QUOTE] Nah, didn't miss the point, was just loosely basing this fiasco on the fact I have towels of national flags [IMG]http://planetsmilies.net/cool-smiley-8971.gif[/IMG] [QUOTE=Drsalvador;36265055]by all means, feel free to wipe your sweaty bollocks on the union jack, you can even roll it up and use it as butt floss for all i care.[/QUOTE] We'd just consider it patriotic arse floss. I've even seen union jack loo roll, just proves you can't insult brits over such petty things such as national symbols. If a foreigner came up wearing a kilt, a rubber margaret thatcher mask dancing around a maypole all while fucking a cornish pasty as a means to spite us, we'd assume him jealous

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264517]So would you be happy with me wiping my wet hands all over [I]your[/I] flag? Probably not[/QUOTE] lol, It's not like someone is wiping your wet hands over your face personally.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36264775]Nothing else to wipe his hands upon, plus its just a piece of cloth.[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure that's why he did it.

Good job on the title, OP.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;36264863]Then why have flags at all? Flags are a symbol of the nation or organization. Wiping your hands on the flag is pretty disrespectful. It's basically saying "I don't think highly of the things this flag represents". That's why flag burning is a big deal, and why flying the flag upside down is a big deal. These things are very symbolic gestures. The kid probably shouldn't have gotten suspended, but the teacher should have explained how rude it is to wipe your hands on a nation's flag.[/QUOTE] If he had done it maliciously then maybe a detention or something would be deserved but he probably just wanted to dry his hands and used the closest piece of cloth available. Not every action represents someones ideals. This story kind of reminds me of [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1189540]this.[/url] Obviously not as bad though.

Why was there even a flag in the school? Maybe American culture is radically different from ours but I don't think I've seen our flag outside of football (soccer) and politics yet.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36264517]So would you be happy with me wiping my wet hands all over [I]your[/I] flag? Probably not[/QUOTE] well I would be pissed, a little I mean if it was my specific flag that I paid for I'd probably wouldn't be that pissed though, since it's like, just water, who gives a shit it'll dry I don't give half a shit if you wipe your hands on other people's flags though

That's a fucked up education system right there folks.

[QUOTE=Robber;36265191]Why was there even a flag in the school? Maybe American culture is radically different from ours but I don't think I've seen our flag outside of football (soccer) and politics yet.[/QUOTE] in every school I've been in (I'm American) there's a flag and a Texas flag in every classroom, the cafeteria, the office, and the auditorium.

[quote]“[This has been] very traumatic,” Victoria Hinton, the boy's mother, told WTKR-TV. “It has had an emotional impact on my son’s education.”[/quote] Are you fucking serious?