The end of free internet: US Senate Committee Approves Internet “Blacklist” Bill - Polidicks

This tread needs to stop existing. This isn't a thing anymore.

[QUOTE=Killowatt;27467289]Record Companies won't lose money, they will just not earn any.[/QUOTE] That's a argument a total fuck wad would think of. Can you live life without earning any money? [b]NO.[/b] Here, I'm going to make a post to describe it to you people. Okay, so here you have an official CD from a record label: [img]http://www.or-olam.org/images/Beatles_CD.jpg[/img] THIS IS A PHYSICAL COPY OF THE CD. Now. try to play this one PHYSICAL CD on two CD players at the same time. You can't. You can always burn a copy of the CD, but that would not be an official copy, so that means that's one sale the record company has lost. "Copying" is really no different from stealing when it comes to the INTERNET.

[QUOTE=Killowatt;27467289]Record Companies won't lose money, they will just not earn any.[/QUOTE] That's a terrible argument. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] ninja'd

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27467492]No, I win because I provided better arguments. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Cartel, [i]a consortium of independent organizations formed to limit competition by controlling the production and distribution of a product or service[/i] Yeah, it actually fits.[/QUOTE] tell me what competition are they trying to limit with this bill, then?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27467492]No, I win because I provided better arguments.[/quote] You basically said, "It's illegal to steal (music, films, TV shows) in some states, but enforcing a country-wide 'no-stealing' law is obscene!" Great argument. :downs:

If FP is based in England, and this bill gets passed. Are we all dead?

doesnt matter when im using a seedbox and a russian vpn

It's funny that Republicans saved our asses.

[QUOTE=>VLN<;27467719]It's funny that Republicans saved our asses.[/QUOTE] Goes to show you that you can't blindly vote 1 party.

I like how the US always assumes that any changes to the internet they do will take effect on the rest of the world. Even if this bill was passed, other countries wouldn't adopt it

Haha! Oh wow! This guy knows nothing at all does he? This bill never even made it to the floor, and needs to go back through committee to be voted on again. And yet the OP did absolutely nothing to research this blogs claims, which the writer can't even spell. Not only that, the link to the Food Safety Modernization act is calling it "food fascism". As if protecting the people from getting food borne illnesses from private gardens and small farms through inspections is anywhere fucking near fascism. All the while, providing funding to new FDA programs to help with the food inspector crisis. Yeah, some fascism right there. I don't know what worse, the stupidity of the OP for not bothering to read up, or the idiot who wrote this.

I'm in Canada, and thank god I am. Yeah it starts with little things, and then it escalates. I would not want to be in the USA.

Methinks we should be discussing the bill which could have become law, not whether or not piracy is wrong. As far as I'm concerned, record companies can kiss my ass. The ones that make music for the sake of making music could care less whether or not they make money, so long as they make an impact on people. Its mostly the 'musicians' who like to be talked about as "stars" who write music for the sake of getting rich. Therefore these are the only ones who give a flying shit if their works get pirated.

Let's see them beat my proxy. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Oh wait, my server is in the US.

From the way I am understanding the bill, companies can simply not comply. If they are not given a court order to put a website on the blacklist they don't have to. Also, the bill mainly affects US ISPs, so it really stays just in American Internet, if that makes any sense.

[QUOTE=Pasalaqcua;27467550] Here, I'm going to make a post to describe it to you people. Okay, so here you have an official CD from a record label: [img_thumb]http://www.or-olam.org/images/Beatles_CD.jpg[/img_thumb] THIS IS A PHYSICAL COPY OF THE CD. Now. try to play this one PHYSICAL CD on two CD players at the same time. You can't. You can always burn a copy of the CD, but that would not be an official copy, so that means that's one sale the record company has lost. "Copying" is really no different from stealing when it comes to the INTERNET.[/QUOTE] I can output from a CD player to two sets of speakers in different physical locations if I like. Are you saying that this should be illegal? And did you also just say that making personal backups should ALSO be illegal?

Got a source that isn't Infowars/Prison Planet with a crappier layout?

Why is everyone in this thread bashing the illegalization of internet piracy and stealing? If you're that fucking cheap, don't whine about a law being passed against [b]THIEVERY[/b]. Why would you all not support th- [quote]Facepunch.com[/quote] That explains it.

[IMG]http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6382/credibility.png[/IMG][IMG]http://img191.imageshack.us/f/credibility.png/[/IMG][IMG]http://img191.imageshack.us/i/credibility.png/[/IMG] Pretty much sums up the sites credibility. Last time I checked this didn't even block Torrent sites, just sites that are directly violating the law by providing direct downloads.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;27469405]Why is everyone in this thread bashing the illegalization of internet piracy and stealing? If you're that fucking cheap, don't whine about a law being passed against [b]THIEVERY[/b]. Why would you all not support th- That explains it.[/QUOTE] Thievery is "the act of taking something from someone unlawfully", nothing is being taken. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Saxon;27469552] Last time I checked this didn't even block Torrent sites, just sites that are directly violating the law by providing direct downloads.[/QUOTE] Rapidshare, Megaupload, Filesmelt, Cubeupload, Imageshack all have infringing content on them. They could all be blocked had this bill passed.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;27469405]Why is everyone in this thread bashing the illegalization of internet piracy and stealing? If you're that fucking cheap, don't whine about a law being passed against [b]THIEVERY[/b]. Why would you all not support th- That explains it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1000060-Fake-Facepunch-Duplicate[/url] It's because of you.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;27469405]Why is everyone in this thread bashing the illegalization of internet piracy and stealing? If you're that fucking cheap, don't whine about a law being passed against [b]THIEVERY[/b]. Why would you all not support th- That explains it.[/QUOTE] First If they wanted to stop piracy the only way to do so is to shut down every file or image sharing site and even if they did you could still use your friends to burn you a copy of a game.

Imagine if something severely limiting the internet actually does get passed. It will be like the western frontier. One day, we will sit down and say to our grandkids, "Back in my day, we could download any game we wanted and play it for free," and they would be amazed.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;27469791]First If they wanted to stop piracy the only way to do so is to shut down every file or image sharing site and even if they did you could still use your friends to burn you a copy of a game.[/QUOTE] Image hosting piracy? Is that like renaming a .zip to a .jpg?

If this bill will every be passed, 4chan would be the first on their blacklist

Wow, really misleading op. My heart fucking dropped.

[QUOTE=supersnail11;27469836]Image hosting piracy? Is that like renaming a .zip to a .jpg?[/QUOTE] Putting book/ other reading materal that you have to pay for free online so someone can put it on there computer is considered piracy. In fact you could break laws by showing content on youtube as well but yet that place hasnt been shut down.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27469697]Thievery is "the act of taking something from someone unlawfully", nothing is being taken. [editline]16th January 2011[/editline] Rapidshare, Megaupload, Filesmelt, Cubeupload, Imageshack all have infringing content on them. They could all be blocked had this bill passed.[/QUOTE] Except those sites activities have to be central to piracy to be taken down. They're fine as long as they remove infringing material when asked to such as Viacom vs. Youtube. Worse than can do is beg ISPs to block them which they won't. An example of the sites that they want to go after are ones such as those sites that host ROMS for DS games and such. Anyway I'm not really arguing I'm just pointing out that they're not targeting torrent sites.

Phew, the title had me going for a second.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;27467349]You people are overreacting. This isn't 'the end of free internet'. It's not like the US government is censoring every site in existence or forcing sites on you, it's stopping you from pirating and stealing on the internet. If you just paid for things, you wouldn't have any problem to begin with.[/QUOTE] Pirating isn't stealing. Stealing requires that the owner no longer possesses an object. The internet is immaterial, there is nothing to steal; it's all duplicated bits and bytes.