JJ Abrams releases promo video on set of Star Wars Episode 7 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Saxon;44874623]I believe a combination of the two is usually what leads to the best results. The problem with props is that its hard to do it on a grand scale like some of the battles in DS9 and the one above Coruscant. Obviously just shoving it everywhere is pretty bad too. Like the old CGI scenes that Lucas added in, they look like complete garbage and out of place in 2014 [editline]22nd May 2014[/editline] Anyway Abrhams is a pretty big Star Wars fanboy like a lot of us. He clearly listened since one of the first things that Mark Hamill brought up was that they need to cut back on cgi and use more animatronics[/QUOTE] Except the Jabba's Palace concert is clearly the best part of the whole original trilogy. [video=youtube;PiDRgDmXGi4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4[/video]

[QUOTE=usaokay;44874698]It's pretty funny how the guy who directed the modern Star Trek films is now directing the modern Star Wars films. If I were to tell that to a Trekkie or a super Star Wars fan 10-30 years ago, they would brush me off.[/QUOTE] They would have slapped you and called you a liar. Or asked who JJ Abrams was. :v:

Abrams actually likes to use traditional effects and real sets, then mix them with CGI, so no need to worry there. What's also funny is JJ Abrams has always been a Starwars fan, which is why myself and some friends found it funny he was doing Star Trek.

I'm very happy to see a physical set; hoping for the new Star Wars to be a lot more immersive than the prequels.

[QUOTE=usaokay;44874698]It's pretty funny how the guy who directed the modern Star Trek films is now directing the modern Star Wars films. If I were to tell that to a Trekkie or a super Star Wars fan 10-30 years ago, they would brush me off.[/QUOTE] Lucas went to Star Trek conventions take that NERDS

[QUOTE=J!NX;44873870] if used right, it's the greatest shit ever. BUT, the late 80's / 90's were the golden age of film effects IMHO. This is because they used actual props leading to a very realistic feel to it, rather than shoving CGI everywhere.[/QUOTE] Do you have a single idea what you're talking about? The 1900's to the 1980's were the era of practical effects. 1989 was when CGI picked up real time and it's been thrumming ever since.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;44875106]Do you have a single idea what you're talking about? The 1900's to the 1980's were the era of practical effects. 1989 was when CGI picked up real time and it's been thrumming ever since.[/QUOTE] fair enough, I must have mixed my decades up :U 90's didn't have an overwhelming number of truly CGI movies, as least not that I remember

[QUOTE=J!NX;44875110]fair enough, I must have mixed my decades up :U 90's didn't have an overwhelming number of truly CGI movies, as least not that I remember[/QUOTE] Its usage was there, believe me. Money For Nothing (the Dire Straits video) was when CGI [b]really[/b] clicked with the public, for a frame of reference. Even the earliest 1900's films often used practical effects. Le Voyage Dans Las Lune for example.

PHYSICAL PROPS AND SETS FUCKING WIN!

[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;44874656]Except the Jabba's Palace concert is clearly the best part of the whole original trilogy. [video=youtube;PiDRgDmXGi4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4[/video][/QUOTE] That still convinces me that GL has absolutely no fucking idea what he was or is doing.

Even as a kid 7 or 9 years old I always thought that the Jabba's Palace Concert was Cringy as hell.

[QUOTE=Brt5470;44875776]That still convinces me that GL has absolutely no fucking idea what he was or is doing.[/QUOTE] The concert was made for the original release of the movie but didn't make it in :v: only the CG was made for the special editions. I don't remember why it didn't make the original cut. I think it had to do with the puppets. So while the scene was only in the special editions, it was made back in the 80s with the rest of the film. [editline]22nd May 2014[/editline] This is the same movie that had ewoks.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;44876289]So while the scene was only in the special editions, it was made back in the 80s with the rest of the film.[/QUOTE] The problem isn't the scene itself, it's how goddamn awful and out of place the CGI characters looked.

[QUOTE=Jimesu_Evil;44876336]The problem isn't the scene itself, it's how goddamn awful and out of place the CGI characters looked.[/QUOTE] Especially when watching it on Blu-Ray

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44872236]my only issue with his version of ST, is that he pretty much removed quite a bit of the whole optimistic message of star trek, in favor of turning into a somewhat more generic action movie in space.[/QUOTE] That's a good thing for Star Wars since the biggest message in it was "fight space nazis."

I remember being prime age for the special edition in theaters (10) and feeling almost violated at what he did. I liked the general improvements to the blue screen effects, but the CG characters were just.. ugh. I also really liked the newer ending to the Return of the Jedi where you see Cloud City and that city planet celebrating and such.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;44875106]Do you have a single idea what you're talking about? The 1900's to the 1980's were the era of practical effects. 1989 was when CGI picked up real time and it's been thrumming ever since.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.promoparrot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Back-to-the-future-2-jaws.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=lope;44873579]Why is everyone arguing if that was CGI? I think it's very clear that was the real JJ Abrams[/QUOTE] i need to know the truth of this so i can decide whether i should bash or praise the video

[QUOTE=DeEz;44877635]i need to know the truth of this so i can decide whether i should bash or praise the video[/QUOTE] if you somehow can't tell if it's practical or digital I think it's successful either way and deserves praise

[QUOTE=dai;44877737]if you somehow can't tell if it's practical or digital I think it's successful either way and deserves praise[/QUOTE] like forrest gump i didnt even realize that movie had so much digital replacement until a few years ago :pwn:

[QUOTE=dai;44877599][img]http://www.promoparrot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Back-to-the-future-2-jaws.gif[/img][/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/5omvAXR.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/6TVdvGp.jpg[/img] [QUOTE=Drsalvador;44875106]Do you have a single idea what you're talking about? The 1900's to the 1980's were the era of practical effects. [b]1989 was when CGI picked up real time and it's been thrumming ever since.[/b][/QUOTE]

I never watched a single SW film. I need to start doing so.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;44877909][img]http://i.imgur.com/5omvAXR.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/6TVdvGp.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Oh man, that post zing zing responce ice burn

If all Abrams does is just show us "Look we got props" then it's going to suffer from the same ailment that his Star Trek movies had, which was was "Look we made references!". The Original Trilogy (not Lucas's re-releases) had not only great effects, but also a great story, great characters, great universe. Great everything actually. I just hope J.J. Abrams realizes this, but the cynical side of me says that the franchise peaked with the original trilogy. And that was way back in the 1970's-1980's.

[QUOTE=Token Indian;44879985]If all Abrams does is just show us "Look we got props" then it's going to suffer from the same ailment that his Star Trek movies had, which was was "Look we made references!". The Original Trilogy (not Lucas's re-releases) had not only great effects, but also a great story, great characters, great universe. Great everything actually. I just hope J.J. Abrams realizes this, but the cynical side of me says that the franchise peaked with the original trilogy. And that was way back in the 1970's-1980's.[/QUOTE] Honestly, it still is going to be far better than the prequels.