Quentin Tarantino Vs Disney: Disney is allegedly strong-arming Cinerama Dome theater to show Star Wa - Polidicks

[QUOTE=DeEz;49336334]Doesn't this break some anti-competition law?[/QUOTE] Disney is more powerful than most governments.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;49336287]sometimes people forget that disney is among the biggest corporate bullies in the world they own fucking everything[/QUOTE] Disney is the second largest conglomerate in the world in a group of 6 other super corpprations called the big 6, in owning 70% of international media through the buying of all the smaller corporations. They own television networks like ABC, film studios, and a shit ton of other unrelated corporations. They really are the "Empire"

[QUOTE=Complifusedv2;49336335]Hardly surprised, star wars is fucking massive and people are a bit more hyped about it than they are for the hateful eight.[/QUOTE] That's exactly what their reasoning behind this is. They're not out to get Tarantino; he's being a drama queen.

[QUOTE=Ridge;49337129]That's exactly what their reasoning behind this is. They're not out to get Tarantino; he's being a drama queen.[/QUOTE] But a drama queen with a contract. Don't defend obviously scummy business practices.

I totally forgot about hateful eight even coming out. I might have to see both movies in the same day. and then The Revenant is coming out. So I can't wait for that movie to come out because I love movies about skeletons with rocket launchers on their shoulders.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49335565]It's probably *the* main reason why I don't understand how could they have sold it for so low. 4 billion, compared to the TENTHS of billions it makes solely in merch, is a damn bargain. They could have easily asked for more.[/QUOTE] Tenths?

[QUOTE=Wii60;49335412]There's only one screen and it only shows one movie at a time. Switching film is hard when it comes to non-digital film. If you only have one screen it only makes sense to run one movie only. disney and tarantino had a deal with the theater that star wars gets it first for two weeks, then hateful eight. This makes sense because star wars comes out two weeks earlier than Hateful 8. The Cinerama theater is also one of the few 70MM Theater screens left in america. they dont need to move equipment into the theater to play the hateful 8 movie how it's intended. this is a vital thing. So disney is essentially telling tarantino to go fuck himself.[/QUOTE] And that's what I don't get. It seems incredibly impractical compared to something like digital media like a harddisk or something.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;49337776]And that's what I don't get. It seems incredibly impractical compared to something like digital media like a harddisk or something.[/QUOTE] Yes, but digital is of a different fidelity than actual film.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;49337776]And that's what I don't get. It seems incredibly impractical compared to something like digital media like a harddisk or something.[/QUOTE] Cinerama has a digital projector so star wars uses that probably. but Tarantino is a hardcore film lover so he wants the classical 70mm film and everything. non-digital film is horribly time consuming to calibrate for viewings so thats why they can't show twice at same time.

[QUOTE=Take_Opal;49338095]Yes, but digital is of a different fidelity than actual film.[/QUOTE] So it's like audiophelia in the "you can literally hear the bandmembers sweatting" sense? Or is there something I'm not getting? I'm asking honestly since I'm not that big of a film buff as some might be, so it (to me) just seems like a weird thing to do.

It's because film is a physical medium. It's incredibly high quality and a 70mm projector is one of the most finessed ways to show a film, preserving all detail in one of the most powerful physical mediums in the industry. Digital is great and all, but it's not better than film for any other reason than cost and processing. Even then film used to be cheap to process and deal with in the scale of a film.

not to mention the entire movie was filmed on 70mm film. That has the superior advantage to digital filming too. Non-Digital Film can be upscaled anytime, digital films are stuck at the resolution they are filming at and can't go higher currently. This is why digital film movies are being filmed in 8k and stuff so they dont have to worry about the films looking like shit till 10-20 years later. Force awakens is being filmed on 35mm film (normal theater size), so they are able to upscale it later when needed. It also has some parts on imax film (which is a special type of 70mm film.)

[QUOTE=Zoombini;49334853]Episode IIV: Revenge of the Awakens[/QUOTE] Revenge Awakens actually sounds pretty badass.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49335435]Disney are getting away with plenty of things as it is [t]https://i.imgur.com/wXGv8tX.jpg[/t] I mean, [I]really?[/I] [editline]17th December 2015[/editline] And people used to whine about those yellow rat fucks they call Minions... it feels like the Minions marketing campaign, turned all the way up to 11. [editline]17th December 2015[/editline] In their defense, I sorta understand their position -- Star Wars is their goose that lays golden eggs, they paid good money to get it (4 Billion) and this movie is one giant egg... and want to make sure *everyone* sees it. But definitely [i]not like this[/i].[/QUOTE] This is advertising, not merchandising. That costs Disney money, they don't get a cut of the crest lol (correct me if I'm wrong)

I heard that with episode 1, the theaters got a ridiculously low cut, if they even got one at all

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;49339730]This is advertising, not merchandising. That costs Disney money, they don't get a cut of the crest lol (correct me if I'm wrong)[/QUOTE] who's the bigger brand, Crest or Star Wars? Yeah, Star Wars. So yes, disney gets a cut. Crest gets higher sales, Disney gets a cut.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49340719]who's the bigger brand, Crest or Star Wars? Yeah, Star Wars. So yes, disney gets a cut. Crest gets higher sales, Disney gets a cut.[/QUOTE] I don't think thats how it works. Disney is paying Crest for them to feature their IP on their products, Crest isn't paying Disney to use Star Wars or giving them a cut of tooth paste sales featuring Star Wars.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49340734]I don't think thats how it works. Disney is paying Crest for them to feature their IP on their products, Crest isn't paying Disney to use Star Wars or giving them a cut of tooth paste sales featuring Star Wars.[/QUOTE] So are we imagining Disney has no leverage or ability to push things like this being literally one of the biggest companies on earth or something? I'm not sure how it works, but I highly suspect disney isn't paying to do that.

[QUOTE=PieClock;49335555][img]http://i.imgur.com/nFiHoUk.png[/img][/QUOTE] Healthy for they are you [editline]17th December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49340734]I don't think thats how it works. Disney is paying Crest for them to feature their IP on their products, Crest isn't paying Disney to use Star Wars or giving them a cut of tooth paste sales featuring Star Wars.[/QUOTE] ??? Crest is totally paying Disney for a piece of their starwars action, everybody is its called IP licensing, why on earth would Disney pay crest, they literally make no money off of that. Disney doesn't pay Lego to make star wars sets, they don't pay Hasbro to make dolls and action dolls, everybody is giving Disney money to use their characters, the reason why this doesn't happen more is because a lot of times its not worth it or the studio understands what things they should be letting be licensed and what shouldn't be licensed

[QUOTE=Sableye;49340806]Healthy for they are you [editline]17th December 2015[/editline] ??? Crest is totally paying Disney for a piece of their starwars action, everybody is its called IP licensing, why on earth would Disney pay crest, they literally make no money off of that. Disney doesn't pay Lego to make star wars sets, they don't pay Hasbro to make dolls and action dolls, everybody is giving Disney money to use their characters, the reason why this doesn't happen more is because a lot of times its not worth it or the studio understands what things they should be letting be licensed and what shouldn't be licensed[/QUOTE] Cool well then I stand corrected

to add onto the "why cant star wars and hateful eight run at the same time" argument. heres someone loading 70mm film of force awakens onto a single imax projector [url]http://imgur.com/a/Cd2rX[/url] he loads [B]40[/B] reels onto a single projector for one movie. each reel is 2-4 minutes of 70mm imax film he has to manually combine where the previous reel ends and the new one begins, then load it into a loader to load it into a projector this process can take over 12 hours easily. force awakens is a 2 hr movie, hateful eight is 3 hrs.

[QUOTE=Crimor;49335531] This fucking movie is as relevant as ever.[/QUOTE] Funny thing is that they were allowed to make the movie with heavy Star Wars references as long they would not sell Spaceballs action figures or the likes of it.

[QUOTE=Wii60;49354927]to add onto the "why cant star wars and hateful eight run at the same time" argument. heres someone loading 70mm film of force awakens onto a single imax projector [url]http://imgur.com/a/Cd2rX[/url] he loads [B]40[/B] reels onto a single projector for one movie. each reel is 2-4 minutes of 70mm imax film he has to manually combine where the previous reel ends and the new one begins, then load it into a loader to load it into a projector this process can take over 12 hours easily. force awakens is a 2 hr movie, hateful eight is 3 hrs.[/QUOTE] The unsung heroes

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;49336343]I feel it violates the rights of said theater to show whatever they god-damn want, that's for sure.[/QUOTE] not even close. i mean i might be biased due to the fact I own disney stock, but this nothing more than cutthroat business practices. nothing illegal here

Well why doesn't the theater just play 2 weeks of star wars then 2 weeks of hateful 8? As long as they get to show star wars for 2 weeks who cares what Disney lets them show afterwards

[QUOTE=cody8295;49361938]Well why doesn't the theater just play 2 weeks of star wars then 2 weeks of hateful 8? As long as they get to show star wars for 2 weeks who cares what Disney lets them show afterwards[/QUOTE] the problem is that disney is forcing them to show star wars for 2 more weeks which overlaps hateful 8's two weeks.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;49361946]the problem is that disney is forcing them to show star wars for 2 more weeks which overlaps hateful 8's two weeks.[/QUOTE] I understand but the theater will still be able to say "sure disney, let's do it your way" but then when star wars has had its 2 weeks just stop showing it. My point is that after 2 weeks all Disney can really do is say that from now on you cant show star wars, but after the first 2 weeks most of the people who were gonna see it in theaters probably have.

[QUOTE=cody8295;49361963]I understand but the theater will still be able to say "sure disney, let's do it your way" but then when star wars has had its 2 weeks just stop showing it. My point is that after 2 weeks all Disney can really do is say that from now on you cant show star wars, but after the first 2 weeks most of the people who were gonna see it in theaters probably have.[/QUOTE] then guess who isn't going to be able to show rogue one or episode 8 and etc

[QUOTE=stupid10er;49361927]cutthroat business practices[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=stupid10er;49361927]nothing illegal here[/QUOTE] Just because it's technically legal doesn't mean it [I]SHOULD [/I]be.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;49335288]So as far as I can understand and read me to, the Cinerama Dome only has one theater, right? Wouldn't they be able to show two different movies the same day? Other that some sort of pretentiousness (I think is the right word), why couldn't they show both?[/QUOTE] The Cinerama Dome is a single screen in an actual movie theater with around 14 screens, I think. It's not the only screen, but it's the only screen equipped to show 70mm movies without having to bring in equipment