• Passing the Joint Could Make You a Drug Trafficker.
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[QUOTE=J!NX;32926461]Addiction is a change in chemical make up of the brain making someone physically have side-effects of not using it so... no... you can't. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction[/url] [I][U]It's [B]impossible [/B]to be addicted to those things.[/U][/I] HOOWWWEEEVER, like those things, you can form something like an extreme habit. Extreme habit of eating chocolate, smoking weeding, 'tossing it off', etc.[/QUOTE] You do know that, by that definition, pretty much everything is an addiction I'm addicted on not having a bullet through my brain because if I happened to have a bullet in the composition of my brain, I'll have the side-effect of dying. Read it again, it's physical/psychological dependence on a substance, yes. But to differentiate between extreme habits and addictions is really just useful on a categorization basis. E.H. have as much potential as Ad. to cause dependence.
[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;32926594]You do know that, by that definition, pretty much everything is an addiction I'm addicted on not having a bullet through my brain because if I happened to have a bullet in the composition of my brain, I'll have the side-effect of dying. Read it again, it's physical/psychological dependence on a substance, yes. But to differentiate between extreme habits and addictions is really just useful on a categorization basis. E.H. have as much potential as Ad. to cause dependence.[/QUOTE] dependence, meaning, you actually need it, and you [I]actually[/I] have effects when its not used. having a habit of doing something doesn't mean you depend on it unless you have something psychologically wrong with you to boot
[QUOTE=Ylsid;32925290] Okay, so they haven't found [i]conclusive[/i] evidence so it appears, but just how much it looks like it could fuck up school life isn't worth it. People should not be allowed to share substances that have the potential to cause this much harm in such a short timescale.[/QUOTE] Some people are naturally more at risk of developing mental health problems as time goes on, whether it's in the family or caused by long and short term environmental triggers. I don't remember ever having any weed (or any other drugs - definitely missed out on something there) and my school life was a mess for all of those reasons listed anyway. So I'm inclined to believe that cannabis isn't one of those triggers and that most people who go on to develop problems like anxiety or paranoia would have done so without using it.
[QUOTE=Ylsid;32925290]yeah I didn't exactly look at the last source dumb +10 [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/emotional_health/addictions/cannabis.shtml[/url] Okay, so they haven't found [i]conclusive[/i] evidence so it appears, but just how much it looks like it could fuck up school life isn't worth it. People should not be allowed to share substances that have the potential to cause this much harm in such a short timescale.[/QUOTE] Bro, I see your concern since it's something that you haven't experienced or understand, but cannabis is truly harmless. Go watch some documentaries. This sounds generic, but I have friends that are A students, one that's been doing math classes grades above him for years now, and they all enjoy their THC and cannabinoids. Go watch the Union or something. I am kind of pissed that you want to "protect" people from themselves when they truly don't need some ignorant psycho protecting them, even less so protectors that are in it for the cash, will lock you up, and not the facts.
[QUOTE=J!NX;32927436]dependence, meaning, you actually need it, and you [I]actually[/I] have effects when its not used. having a habit of doing something doesn't mean you depend on it unless you have something psychologically wrong with you to boot[/QUOTE] A craving for it is a side-effect. A negative one as well.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;32917801]Does shooting someone make me an arms trafficker?[/QUOTE] That'd make you an ammo trafficker.
I just want all Canadians to know that this bill [b]will[/b] pass because the conservatives have a majority Harper wants to make an unrecognizable Canada and that's what he's doing right now
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32930478]I just want all Canadians to know that this bill [b]will[/b] pass because the conservatives have a majority Harper wants to make an unrecognizable Canada and that's what he's doing right now[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, yes. Lets just hope the supreme court over rules some of this nonsense.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;32917801]Does shooting someone make me an arms trafficker?[/QUOTE] no it makes you a murderer and you will probably go to prison.
This is news? I thought it was obvious that sharing was still trafficking as they really only define trafficking as transfer from person to person.
honestly, smoking cannabis is just irresponsible and immature, and I think most people knows that
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32937410]honestly, smoking cannabis is just irresponsible and immature, and I think most people knows that[/QUOTE] It is not, and I think most people know that.
This is one of those dumb laws that's near impossible to enforce.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32937410]honestly, smoking cannabis is just irresponsible and immature, and I think most people knows that[/QUOTE] So is drinking alcohol. But fuck that, I wanna have fun without giving a damn about what everyone else think. And that's what I do, so fuck people with a opinion like yours.
[QUOTE=Van-man;32938369]So is drinking alcohol. But fuck that, I wanna have fun without giving a damn about what everyone else think. And that's what I do, so fuck people with a opinion like yours.[/QUOTE] yet this is FP, where people try to act "smart" [editline]24th October 2011[/editline] also, alcohol being legal is not a reason to legalize weed
[QUOTE=Van-man;32938369]So is drinking alcohol. But fuck that, I wanna have fun without giving a damn about what everyone else think. And that's what I do, so fuck people with a opinion like yours.[/QUOTE] Bahaha, really? Well, alright, then, let's go rape some bitches, why not? Hey, why not see which one can throw little Timmy the farthest?
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32940578]yet this is FP, where people try to act "smart"[/QUOTE] And you're a prime example of that. [QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32940578]also, alcohol being legal is not a reason to legalize weed[/QUOTE] Except alcohol is both more addictive, can easier kill you and you're also more likely to make you do really stupid things when drunk, compared to when high.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32940578]yet this is FP, where people try to act "smart"[/QUOTE] And you're a prime example of that. [QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32940578]also, alcohol being legal is not a reason to legalize weed[/QUOTE] Except alcohol is both more addictive, can easier kill you and you're also more likely to make you do really stupid things when drunk, compared to when high.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32940578]yet this is FP, where people try to act "smart" [editline]24th October 2011[/editline] also, alcohol being legal is not a reason to legalize weed[/QUOTE] The risks of weed are less than alcohol, there's greater benefit, and there's less chance of addiction.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32937410]honestly, smoking cannabis is just irresponsible and immature, and I think most people knows that[/QUOTE] I know 40 year old plus professionals in the entertainment and movie industry that regularly smoke weed. Your statement is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32940578] also, alcohol being legal is not a reason to legalize weed[/QUOTE] yes it is
[QUOTE=Van-man;32944203]And you're a prime example of that. Except alcohol is both more addictive, can easier kill you and you're also more likely to make you do really stupid things when drunk, compared to when high.[/QUOTE] Except you're seeing things to black and white. If alcohol causes so much damage, do you really think the solution is [B]more drugs?[/B] (how long until people want other things legalized?) Without question, in the long run the best for everone would be a society without drugs. So let's keep weed illegal. Alcohol and tobacco can't currently be banned obviusly, but as the state (and other entities) informs people of the dangers use will hopefully dicline (see the vastly decreased tobacco use in younger generation) and one they there won't even be a need for alvohol and tobacco. And I think with no drugs (instead of two) a lot of the hype will die down and people can focus on other thing. A lot of "freedom radicals" will dissagre with me, but I think it's time to realize this - there [B]CAN'T BE[/B] a society without limiting peoples freedom, infact that is one of it's prime purpose, how else can we have laws? Most people like society, so accept it or move into the woods I guess. How well would you do on own? [editline]25th October 2011[/editline] tl;dr it doesn't matter wich one is worse, both have no place in society and should eventually be removed
A society without drugs would be a boring society. They definetly have place in society.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32954769] tl;dr it doesn't matter wich one is worse, both have no place in society and should eventually be removed[/QUOTE] I'd rather live in a flawed free society than your dystopian fascist hell most people agree, and people create societies, so you're SOL
No offence dude, but if you can't cope with your life/find it boring without the use of drugs maybe you should take a good long think. This exactlybis the problem with drugs.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32954813]No offence dude, but if you can't cope with your life/find it boring without the use of drugs maybe you should take a good long think. This exactlybis the problem with drugs.[/QUOTE] Drugs allow people to think and feel differently, in the same way reading a new book or looking at some new art can And since taking drugs in the privacy of my own home doesn't harm society at large, it's quite comparable to those things
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32954801]I'd rather live in a flawed free society than your dystopian fascist hell most people agree, and people create societies, so you're SOL[/QUOTE] What I was saying though, is that [B]our current society isn't free[/B], and it never will be. How else can we have laws (ie thousands upon thousands of "rules"), emprison people, take their money (taxes), force them to go to school (in some countries) etc. Do you see, cannabis is just the tip of the iceburg, but that's just how society works in reality
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32954813]No offence dude, but if you can't cope with your life/find it boring without the use of drugs maybe you should take a good long think. This exactlybis the problem with drugs.[/QUOTE] what if you do drugs because of neither of those reasons? Massive hole in your logic there.
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32954851]What I was saying though, is that [B]our current society isn't free[/B], and it never will be. How else can we have laws (ie thousands upon thousands of "rules"), emprison people, take their money (taxes), force them to go to school (in some countries) etc. Do you see, cannabis is just the tip of the iceburg, but that's just how society works in reality[/QUOTE] How do you not see the difference between laws designed to protect society and laws designed to tell me what I can and can't do with my own body
[QUOTE=Neolithic v5;32954851]What I was saying though, is that [B]our current society isn't free[/B], and it never will be. How else can we have laws (ie thousands upon thousands of "rules"), emprison people, take their money (taxes), force them to go to school (in some countries) etc. Do you see, cannabis is just the tip of the iceburg, but that's just how society works in reality[/QUOTE] Those laws make sense...
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