1 student critical, 1 stable after boy opens fire in New Mexico middle school gym
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[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43544794][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Harland_Sanders.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Fry in peace.
[QUOTE=FLIPPY;43544876]But they didn't handle it they grabbed the wrong thing, he means how could he control the gun.[/QUOTE]
Simple, watch enough tv or play video games.
Really, you could learn enough on how to load and shoot a gun, even if not accurately, from playing first person shooters or watching tv.
[QUOTE=Zoran;43544868]As good as turning his life around would be, he's [i]definitely[/i] too far gone. Nobody is going to say, "hey, he had a lot going on." When you shoot someone in the face, you don't tend to really get off easily. Though I see what you're saying.[/QUOTE]
Rehabilitation and atonement is what he should face. Not incarceration in a prison with other people who society has failed.
He should be given the chance and ability to make amends for what he's done, I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished, I'm just saying the potential he has in his lifetime to do a great amount of good and make up for his mistakes shouldn't be thrown away by an overzealous judicial system.
Why is everyone making New Vegas jokes? That was two states over from New Mexico. No-one's mentioned that this took place in Roswell?
[QUOTE=lazyguy;43545245]Why is everyone making New Vegas jokes? That was two states over from New Mexico. No-one's mentioned that this took place in Roswell?[/QUOTE]
Because most people here aren't utter buzzkills.
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43545339]Because most people here aren't utter buzzkills.[/QUOTE]
Get stuffed, I literally was wondering what the link to New Vegas was.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;43544748]I'm just going to put this out there: the problem isn't the availability of guns, it's the gun culture. From everything I've read and seen, it appears that to Americans, guns are accepted as [i]the[/i] solution to any problem. The kid may have been bullied, but he shouldn't have the mentality that a gun would fix the issue. It won't, and he's probably fucked up his life badly because of this.
Although Australia probably isn't better; instead of guns as solutions we have fist fights as solutions.[/QUOTE]
Wrong. It isn't gun culture, it's mental stability. I was bullied everyday from 6th grade to my sophomore year. But not once did I ever consider shooting anyone. it takes a pre-existing mental condition to go as far as shooting up a school.
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43545339]Because most people here aren't utter buzzkills.[/QUOTE]
Actually, most people in SH are
[QUOTE=fireball397;43550976]Actually, most people in SH are[/QUOTE]
Actually, it's the exact opposite.
If there's a opportunity to crack a joke, then you can bet your ass there's a massive race for cracking the best joke.
The Austin Powers thing that went down a long time ago is the best example.
[QUOTE=nemmises5;43549406]Wrong. It isn't gun culture, it's mental stability. I was bullied everyday from 6th grade to my sophomore year. But not once did I ever consider shooting anyone. it takes a pre-existing mental condition to go as far as shooting up a school.[/QUOTE]
but if there was no gun culture and had never been a gun culture in the first place there'd be very little way of someone with that pre-existing mental condition to get a gun and shoot people :)
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43551095]but if there was no gun culture and had never been a gun culture in the first place there'd be very little way of someone with that pre-existing mental condition to get a gun and shoot people :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah because there's not a single other thing a person can do to harm another without access to a gun.
[QUOTE=Olas;43552898]Yeah because there's not a single other thing a person can do to harm another without access to a gun.[/QUOTE]
this gets brought up in every thread
a gun enables people. what can you do with a gun? you can kill people with ease, from distance, without need for any notable physical strength or much skill, and, in some cases more importantly, you can kill yourself with it very easily once the whole ordeal is over. if you're mental and upset and acting in the heat of the moment, and you know there's a gun in your house within easy reach, why the hell wouldn't you act on that? it's so easy
if none of this is true then surely there would be as many mass-stabbings in the UK as there are mass-shootings in the US right? because if someone wants to kill, by jove they'll find a way! right? not really
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553215]Know what you can do with a gun if it's in a safe and you don't have a combination? NOT A GOD DAMNED THING. Proper storage is a SUPER simple thing, and should literally be priority 1 if you're a parent and own firearms.[/QUOTE]
and yet there are thousands and thousands of people who don't do this. i wonder why. maybe it's because people own guns under the guise of self-defence and they want to have easy access to it, or maybe it's because they don't want to admit there's a danger, or any other of millions of reasons
yeh being safe with a gun is easy and more people should do it. but they don't. and do you know what's safer than being safe with a gun? not having a gun
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553257]Taking away from the many for actions of the few is a foolish thing to do[/QUOTE]
tbh i'd normally always agree with this especially when it comes to stuff like drug control but then again drugs aren't weapons designed to kill people efficiently from distance
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553257]Taking away from the many for actions of the few is a foolish thing to do.[/QUOTE]
I'll remember this next time a cop pulls me over for driving when I'm using a mobile.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553286]And the vast majority of firearms will never preform their original purpose of killing people.[/QUOTE]
neither will the vast majority of nuclear weapons but that doesn't make them safe??
it's just such a fascinating and obscure liberty to be obsessed with. one that's based on history that's 300 years old. it's so strange
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553311]I'd say they are pretty safe if they aren't going off in their silos..[/QUOTE]
people tend to observe very good nuclear weapon safety though and keep them padlocked in their silos away from their children
can't say the same about guns
and yet every day we get another sad news story :(
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553329]I'm pretty sure there aren't many parents that let their kid actively handle firearms without teaching them proper safety techniques, and letting them handle them under their watchful eye.[/QUOTE]
you don't need 'many' to kill a lot of people
[editline]16th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;43553350]Also don't preach about "liberty" as I recall your country just passed a law regarding "opt out" internet filtering, how's letting the government tell you what you need/dont need working out?[/QUOTE]
lol
NSA
Folks, what we have here is an interaction between two humans, male presumably, who have been raised in two entirely separate cultures: one that tolerates and manages guns (albeit at a cost to lives) and the other from a culture that not only stigmatizes gun use, but doesn't allow guns to be owned. The arguments they offer come from their basic understanding of the world and how it should operate, based upon their life's experiences. But soon, this will all change, for they will realize that not only do they disagree, but they are incapable of seeing eye-to-eye and the uselessness of the argument will paralyze them. Let us watch and learn, as they enter, the Twilight Zone.
[QUOTE=valkery;43553383]Folks, what we have here is an interaction between two humans, male presumably, who have been raised in two entirely separate cultures: one that tolerates and manages guns (albeit at a cost to lives) and the other from a culture that not only stigmatizes gun use, but doesn't allow guns to be owned. The arguments they offer come from their basic understanding of the world and how it should operate, based upon their life's experiences. But soon, this will all change, for they will realize that not only do they disagree, but they are incapable of seeing eye-to-eye and the uselessness of the argument will paralyze them. Let us watch and learn, as they enter, the Twilight Zone.[/QUOTE]
Its not difficult to own a firearm in the UK, contrary to what american's believe.
I used to do a lot of range shooting when I was younger as well.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43553392]Its not difficult to own a firearm in the UK, contrary to what american's believe.
I used to do a lot of range shooting when I was younger as well.[/QUOTE]
Misread that as "rage shooting." Was concerned.
Being an American, and unfamiliar with British gun legislation, I apologize for the misconceptions I perpetuated.
[QUOTE=valkery;43553445]Misread that as "rage shooting." Was concerned.[/QUOTE]
It's been years since I killed anybody. And I don't intend to. It was just a phase I was going through.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43553392]Its not difficult to own a firearm in the UK, contrary to what american's believe.
I used to do a lot of range shooting when I was younger as well.[/QUOTE]
why are you brits even practicing shooting, there is no need to
unless you imperials want to invade US again
didnt you learn your lessons last time
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43553561]why are you brits even practicing shooting, there is no need to
unless you imperials want to invade US again
didnt you learn your lessons last time[/QUOTE]
its compulsory after tallship training
and btw last time was 1812 soo... this is awkward
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43553603]its compulsory after tallship training
and btw last time was 1812 soo... this is awkward[/QUOTE]
only means you had 202 years of preparation
legalize open carry of RPG's and nuclear missiles to protect america pls
I wonder if this kid was bullied and snapped?
Everyone that's anti-firearm should be anti-abortion.
Think of all the lives saved if we stop abortion violence and american abortion culture. We could of saved 50 million Americans via an abortion ban.
[QUOTE=deadoon;43544943]Simple, watch enough tv or play video games.
Really, you could learn enough on how to load and shoot a gun, even if not accurately, from playing first person shooters or watching tv.[/QUOTE]
I faceplamed so hard there's a bruise on my face please show some scientific evidence of this! Oh wait there is none!
[QUOTE=coldroll5;43554940]I faceplamed so hard there's a bruise on my face please show some scientific evidence of this! Oh wait there is none![/QUOTE]
I was speaking about how you can learn to be able to shoot a gun from video games, not that video games cause violence.
Hand positioning, turning off the safety, reloading and aiming. You can learn all those without ever handling a gun, but you will likely not be able to shoot accurately without training, practice, or knowing the proper way to use those sights. Everyone who rated that dumb must not be very good at reading.
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