Astronaut says we're not alone- And Obama may disclose info about aliens
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[QUOTE=ThePuska;14787239]I doubt alien spaceships would go any faster than light either. Therefore it'd make more sense to send us electromagnetic signals instead of personally coming here.
Alas, no such signals have been detected. Except one, I think, but it never repeated.[/QUOTE]
Just because traveling at or above the speed of light is impossible doesn't mean physics don't allow for other solutions.
in a universe this big there is other intelligent life.
but there is some question in why they should even give a fuck about us.
[QUOTE=Lankist;14786925]Hooray more alien bullshit.
We KNOW you're covering up that evidence we admittedly aren't certain exists![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrMortician;14787234]Ever heard of zero point energy?
If we can ever can ever create a better power source, we'll be very very close long distance space travel. And we're not very far away from that either.[/QUOTE]
You must be joking. The sun alone doesn't generate enough energy for a interstellar power source, and we can't start violating laws of thermodynamics now can we?
Plus, another major stumbling block is the fact that the human body simply can not survive interstellar travel.
The velocities, the radiation, the lack of gravity, the distances...
We'll be sending metal coffins flying everywhere.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787187]Because any credible astrophysicist would tell you how interstellar travel is practically impossible, and unless some bloody fundamental things that we've already got hammered down well change dramatically, then interstellar travel simply won't exist. Ever.[/QUOTE]
Astrophysicists are not capable of explaining the Universe. The dark matter and energy they invented is for example a sign of that.
we have a mobile skeptic on site.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787020]You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that true interstellar travelling space aliens actually have a credible chance of existing, let alone visiting earth.[/QUOTE]
You'd have to be [B]pretty fucking stupid[/B] if you thought you were the only creature in the entire universe.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787296]You must be joking. The sun alone doesn't generate enough energy for a interstellar power source, and we can't start violating laws of thermodynamics now can we?
Plus, another major stumbling block is the fact that the human body simply can not survive interstellar travel.
The velocities, the radiation, the lack of gravity, the distances...
We'll be sending metal coffins flying everywhere.[/QUOTE]
What's to say that we'd end up traveling at any speed in our own dimension?
Hell, tomorrow we could discover a means to move into another dimension allowing for nearly anything.
Stop saying things are impossible, we've done shit just as crazy before. We went from paper gliders to landing on the moon in 60 years. And you don't think we can advance any further?
Have some faith in humanity... Fuck
[QUOTE=Dead snipe;14787332]You'd have to be [B]pretty fucking stupid[/B] if you thought you were the only creature in the entire universe.[/QUOTE]
I never suggested it.
So lay off the knee-jerking or woe, you may look like an idiot.
oh you wanted it to be brought up :p
ITT people think they understand astrophysics.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;14787335]What's to say that we'd end up traveling at any speed in our own dimension?
Hell, tomorrow we could discover a means to move into another dimension allowing for nearly anything.
Stop saying things are impossible, we've done shit just as crazy before. We went from paper gliders to landing on the moon in 60 years. And you don't think we can advance any further?[/QUOTE]
Your relying an awful lot of fiction here.
The Victorians were waiting for flying cities powered by thousands of wings and autogyros to be 'invented tomorrow'.
You need to drop the 1950 new space age romance.
ITT people think they can see into the future and KNOW what technology is available
ITT people think they know what an alien is, fact is, an alien is fucking different, god knows what shit they have
itt
you got trolled
Please what does ITT stands for ?
Guys, you're dealing with hypothetical physics here. It's called [b]hypothetical[/b] for a reason.
Given the size of the universe, it's nearly impossible that there's NOT another intelligent life form out there, but there's no chance in hell that we will ever come close to contact with it, the most we'll find, ever, is germs or plants, we're alone in this part of the galaxy, completely alone, and it's impossible that any aliens will come to us, because why would they, we're a random planet in a field of infinite darkness.
[QUOTE=Ickylevel;14787447]Please what does ITT stands for ?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DrMortician;14787263]Just because traveling at or above the speed of light is impossible doesn't mean physics don't allow for other solutions.[/QUOTE]
Sending us electromagnetic signals is a lot more efficient than sending mass no matter what.
[QUOTE=Ickylevel;14787312]Astrophysicists are not capable of explaining the Universe. The dark matter and energy they invented is for example a sign of that.[/QUOTE]
Dark matter doesn't need to be invented to exist. All you need is gravitational pull where there should be none.
People, you need to quit taking what you read in Science Fiction novels as fact.
This is my guess:
There are no aliens, but the things happening have been explained to have something to do with aliens and in reality behind all these things have been the US military. just making up these things to allow them to continue develope revolutionary airplanes and to spy other countries, VIPs and cover things up.
There's no question if US army has more advanced technology than any other country in the world. The trick is to keep the standards lower so that if there's need, they have an option to choose to use the secret weapon which no one else has and most important: they can't defend themselves from the threat they don't know.
We have evidence from the past that US government has been supporting all kinds of military research projects. I don't see a reason why they would have changed their ways last 40 years.
I'm not trying to be part of the consipiracy gangbang thing, But this would be the logical explanation.
Obama knows about aliens, that's why he doesn't go church.
[QUOTE=Lankist;14787204]Thanks for the input, Drake.[/QUOTE]
Ah ha, ha ha. I got it.
:(
That astronaut must have brought some space weed
Regardless of whether aliens visiting us is true or not, we do need to get off this rock.
[highlight]Where's my moonbase, obama?![/highlight]
[QUOTE=Duckmurderer;14787577]Regardless of whether aliens visiting us is true or not, we do need to get off this rock.
[highlight]Where's my moonbase, obama?![/highlight][/QUOTE]
actually, there are plans for a moonbase
People, you need to quit taking what you read in Science Fiction novels as fact.
[QUOTE=JDK721;14787666]People, you need to quit taking what you read in Science Fiction novels as fact.[/QUOTE]
we heard you the first time Lankist.
Meh, I don't think aliens exist. (maybe small life forms like bacteria, but nothing intelligent)
Another interesting poser, if Aliens of sufficient technology exist, why are not dead already?
[i]The sobering truth is that relativistic civilizations are a potential nightmare to anyone living within range of them. The problem is that objects traveling at an appreciable fraction of light speed are never where you see them when you see them (i.e., light-speed lag). Relativistic rockets, if their owners turn out to be less than benevolent, are both totally unstoppable and totally destructive. A starship weighing in at 1,500 tons (approximately the weight of a fully fueled space shuttle sitting on the launchpad) impacting an earthlike planet at "only" 30 percent of lightspeed will release 1.5 million megatons of energy -- an explosive force equivalent to 150 times today's global nuclear arsenal.
'm not going to talk about ideas. I'm going to talk about reality. It will probably not be good for us ever to build and fire up an antimatter engine. According to Powell, given the proper detecting devices, a Valkyrie engine burn could be seen out to a radius of several light-years and may draw us into a game we'd rather not play, a game in which, if we appear to be even the vaguest threat to another civilization and if the resources are available to eliminate us, then it is logical to do so.
The game plan is, in its simplest terms, the relativistic inverse to the golden rule: "Do unto the other fellow as he would do unto you and do it first."...
When we put our heads together and tried to list everything we could say with certainty about other civilizations, without having actually met them, all that we knew boiled down to three simple laws of alien behavior:
1. THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.
If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us. It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.
2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.
No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.
3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.
...
Your thinking still seems a bit narrow. Consider several broadening ideas:
1. Sure, relativistic bombs are powerful because the antagonist has already invested huge energies in them that can be released quickly, and they're hard to hit. But they are costly investments and necessarily reduce other activities the species could explore. For example:
2. Dispersal of the species into many small, hard-to-see targets, such as asteroids, buried civilizations, cometary nuclei, various space habitats. These are hard to wipe out.
3. But wait -- while relativistic bombs are readily visible to us in foresight, they hardly represent the end point in foreseeable technology. What will humans of, say, two centuries hence think of as the "obvious" lethal effect? Five centuries? A hundred? Personally I'd pick some rampaging self-reproducing thingy (mechanical or organic), then sneak it into all the biospheres I wanted to destroy. My point here is that no particular physical effect -- with its pluses, minuses, and trade-offs -- is likely to dominate the thinking of the galaxy.
4. So what might really aged civilizations do? Disperse, of course, and also not attack new arrivals in the galaxy, for fear that they might not get them all. Why? Because revenge is probably selected for in surviving species, and anybody truly looking out for long-term interests will not want to leave a youthful species with a grudge, sneaking around behind its back...[/i]
Sums it up nicely.
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