• Astronaut says we're not alone- And Obama may disclose info about aliens
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[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;14796326]the universe is mostly empty space dude. it's not like a sci fi novel with huge expanses of plasma-ion storms and gamma-radiation fields that stretch for hundreds of lightyears[/QUOTE] Yes and no. There is an estimated 500 billion galaxies so far and people say we know everything about the universe and its inhabitants. I'm just trying to point out that we could discover some type of anomaly that changes the way we think about physics big or small details. It happens like 100 times a year. Facepunch disappoints me
this thread is so full of stupidity
[QUOTE=ThePuska;14787239]I doubt alien spaceships would go any faster than light either. Therefore it'd make more sense to send us electromagnetic signals instead of personally coming here. Alas, no such signals have been detected. Except one, I think, but it never repeated.[/QUOTE] What's with all the debating shit..... Aliens could have started civilization even before dinosaurs or humans..... So why not?
c'mon guys, we are obviously not "alone". im not saying there is a super advanced giant fucking civilization that could rape our asses but im saying that there [b]is[/b] other life besides us. its like common sense. out of the billions of stars and planets, somewhere else has to have life there...
About FTL = impossible, cause it's a law of the universe. The thing about laws is, that it only applies if you're caught breaking it. I'll just leave it here ';..;'
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14787020]You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that true interstellar travelling space aliens actually have a credible chance of existing, let alone visiting earth.[/QUOTE] Jesus christ, I'm getting so sick of you coming into every news thread and taking a giant shit all over it.
Well its pretty hard to believe that we are the only beings in the universe so there's gotta be someone or something else out there.
[QUOTE=ThePutty;14797050]Jesus christ, I'm getting so sick of you coming into every news thread and taking a giant shit all over it.[/QUOTE]He has a valid point.
It's pretty farfetched to think that we really are alone in the whole universe. There's gotta be atleast some other places where there are lifeforms. I'm not saying civilized lifeforms, I'm just saying living things in general. Like dinosaurs . . . or something.
[QUOTE=The Epidemic;14797119]It's pretty farfetched to think that we really are alone in the whole universe. [/QUOTE] yes...but an advanced space-faring civilisation? ...highly unlikely
The belief that Aliens have visited Earth stems from the incorrect belief that aliens would actually give a damn about us, or better yet have any reason to visit our relative shithole of a backwater planet.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff Joe;14795571]There might be a few ways around this dilemma. Extending a small funnel of spacetime across vast distances would be able to solve the warp-flight problem without achieving FTL, or if the ship actually DOES achieve FTL without disintegration, it'd have some kind of inertia nullification field, stopping the interior from suffering turbulence from breakneck turns. The UFOs we all see zipping off at impossible speeds and lethal bankings probably have this form of Inertia Nullifier. But back on topic, I do hope we get some disclosure of intel soon. The more intel, the better.[/QUOTE] What exactly is a inertia nullification field? I mean, how does it work, mechanically? Do you have any idea how much energy it would require to 'nullify' the forces of even slow travel? Astronomical, if you excuse the pun. [img]http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/lightwall.gif[/img] Absolutely nothing in existence can survive these conventional forces. Let alone without inventing some physics breaking reactionless engine drive. So people are looking for unconventional methods of travel. [quote=The tough Guide to the Known Galaxy]FTL. Faster than light. This is by far the most important item of HANDWAVIUM technology in Space SF, and is absolutely necessary for the communications, TRADE, and WARFARE of the KNOWN GALAXY. No one, after all, wants to take decades or centuries to get anywhere. For this reason, even HARD SF usually makes an exception for FTL. You just can't leave home without it. TECHJARGON terms include Hyperspace, Subspace, and a host of meaningless names - such as my own Ashikaga Jump, named for its purported inventor. Warp was old-fashioned even when classic Trek used it, and is hardly encountered any more. (Interestingly, though, it is one piece of Techjargon that has entered the everyday language; people who never heard of FTL know that warp speed means "really, really fast.") FTL is primarily a form of rapid transit for space vehicles, needed to literally move the plot along. FTL radio is also common (the most frequent Techjargon term is Ansible), but is sometimes left out as not entirely necessary - you can always send a ship with a message, and the resulting haphazard communications are a rich source of plot complications. Perversely, Ursula Le Guin has things the other way around - Ansibles, but no FTL drive. I'm going to be sexist and say that this is a woman thing: you can yak on the phone, but creeps can't get to you to break in and rape you. FTL requires Handwavium because of that damned speed-of-light barrier to travel in normal space. Over the years, SF writers have grasped at any conceivable loophole in the laws of physics that might theoretically allow them to speed things up. The physicists have actually been - very marginally - helpful in this regard, what with wormholes, quantum tunneling, and so forth. Basically, though, FTL remains sheer Handwavium, in that its properties are wholly arbitrary. (Unlike, say, a matter-antimatter DRIVE, for which you can at least calculate energy-to-thrust ratios and the like.) Broadly speaking, FTL environments fall into two classes, those that you "fly" through and those that you "jump" through. The first type allows you to actually navigate - change course, or even fight battles - while in FTL. It also favors artsy semi-streamlined spacecraft designs, a la Trek, presumably to slide cleanly through whatever it is you go through in FTL. In contrast, "jump" FTL is a sort of rabbit hole that you hop through to get where you're going. Navigation is all done beforehand, in normal Space, as you line up to make the jump. Once you make it you have no further control till you pop back out, hopefully where you wanted to go. Jump FTL often limits movement to specific JUMP POINTS. Both types of FTL often require some kind of intuitive skill for successful navigation. This is a convenient way to make automated drone STARSHIPS impossible, forcing them all to have crews. Trek, of course, had a fly-through FTL, but on the whole the fashion in Space SF has been leaning toward jump FTL. This is for a couple of reason. The semi-demi-plausible wormhole and quantum-tunneling concepts seem to imply a jump. More important, though, jump FTL is less intrusive in stories. This is desireable, because most Space SF writers - myself included - are basically guilt-ridden about FTL. We would like to make our stories seem plausible, and may go to a great deal of effort to research, say, what stars are likely to have HABITABLE PLANETS, how much thrust a fusion Drive can generate, or the economics of interstellar Trade. But right at the heart of the whole damn thing is what amounts to magic. So far as genuine scientific plausibility goes, a ship's FTL Drive might just as well be a pretty woman in a white dress who lights some candles and flips tarot cards while chanting in Welsh. So the only decent thing to do with FTL is make it as inconspicuous as possible, act as if stars are really just a little farther apart than planets, and hope against hope that the physicists eventually turn up something solid. Till then? Keep chanting in Welsh, babe.[/quote] Also even wikipedia is helpful on understanding this: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light[/url] I haven't even began to drill peoples skulls on Causality yet. Because FTL and time travel are identicle. You can't have one existing without the other.
[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;14797046]About FTL = impossible, cause it's a law of the universe. The thing about laws is, that it only applies if you're caught breaking it. I'll just leave it here ';..;'[/QUOTE] Laws are laws because they are laws. You can't break them. Gravity will always be gravity. You can't science away gravity.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;14797338]Laws are laws because they are laws. You can't break them. Gravity will always be gravity. You can't science away gravity.[/QUOTE] Multiverse bro, different universes, different laws. Not that I'm saying there's a space traveling race of little green men...
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;14797437]Multiverse bro, different universes, different laws. Not that I'm saying there's a space traveling race of little green men...[/QUOTE] The multiverse guess is a load of shit. There is nothing to back it up, at all. However, FTL works on the assumption that it is impossible to go faster than light. This assumption might be true, but I'm not entirely convinced.
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;14797437]Multiverse bro, different universes, different laws.[/QUOTE] Please do explain the science behind your otherwise, useless spouting of fictional jargon.
Hahaha. French Military Files. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;14787231]We aren't alone, I guarantee it, but We'll never meet an alien civilization, ever.[/QUOTE] Perhaps not in our own lifetime.
senile old man.
[QUOTE=Mastercalvin;14794938]If the plot of that show turned out to be real, fuck yes[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/personal/print/wormhole.jpg[/img] [quote]The parallels between Wormhole X-Treme! and the real SGC are clear. The Air Force had decided that while being a breach of secrecy, the show could prevent any future leaks of information about the Stargate program from being taken seriously.[/quote] SOUP GUYS.
If aliens actually existed, and they actually came to Earth, the first thing I would say would be, "Does anyone want to have sex with these things?"
[QUOTE=Anne Frank;14796934]c'mon guys, we are obviously not "alone". im not saying there is a super advanced giant fucking civilization that could rape our asses but im saying that there [b]is[/b] other life besides us. its like common sense. out of the billions of stars and planets, somewhere else has to have life there...[/QUOTE] Not really. We can throw around statistics all we want, but there's nothing that says there HAS to be life somewhere else. We're pretty random, when you think about it. We could be an anomaly in and of itself -- a prolonged chemical reaction. That could never happen anywhere else, ever. We could just be a fluke. It's not common sense, because in the end, you're still guessing.
[QUOTE=Mastercalvin;14794938]If the plot of that show turned out to be real, fuck yes[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.thescifiworld.net/img/personal/print/wormhole.jpg[/img] [quote]The parallels between Wormhole X-Treme! and the real SGC are clear. The Air Force had decided that while being a breach of secrecy, the show could prevent any future leaks of information about the Stargate program from being taken seriously.[/quote] SOUP GUYS. DOUBLE ALIEN TOAST.
[QUOTE=Arkanj3l;14798324]Not really. We can throw around statistics all we want, but there's nothing that says there HAS to be life somewhere else. We're pretty random, when you think about it. We could be an anomaly in and of itself -- a prolonged chemical reaction. That could never happen anywhere else, ever. We could just be a fluke. It's not common sense, because in the end, you're still guessing.[/QUOTE] And we're the only prolonged chemical reactions in the [b]ENTIRE UNIVERSE[/b]. Totally logical.
[QUOTE=Saxon;14796452]Yes and no. There is an estimated 500 billion galaxies so far and people say we know everything about the universe and its inhabitants. I'm just trying to point out that we could discover some type of anomaly that changes the way we think about physics big or small details. It happens like 100 times a year.[/QUOTE] Paradigm shifts do not occur 100 times a year.
[QUOTE=TH89;14799444]Paradigm shifts do not occur 100 times a year.[/QUOTE] 100 years a time.
[sp]Aliens created us.[/sp] The truth is out.
a small civilisation like ours can in no way think they have found the "laws of the universe". a little planetlocked civlisation like ours? arrogant we have a long way to go
[QUOTE=DieHardDeus;14798409]SOUP GUYS.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBie_x8ZBCM[/media] lol Firefly reference.
Didn't Spore teach you losers anything? There is an alien civilisation on every other planet and everyone is capable of interstellar spacetravel on a larger scale than us.
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