WSJ: Young women in college need to smarten up and start hubby-hunting
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[QUOTE=be;43916536]Everything is a game! Maintaining friendships is a game, life is a game. There is a goal (even if the goal is to continue the game itself), there are strategies, there are tips & tricks...etc[/QUOTE]
You frighten me.
[QUOTE=be;43916317]Getting into a relationship is certainly a competition. Remaining in a relationship is a game, and it does have some competitive elements because people external to the relationship can have extreme effects on relationships, and it has nothing to do with the relationship being broken from the get-go.[/QUOTE]
yep you were right earlier i don't understand your idea of 'true love' at all
[editline]15th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=be;43916536]Everything is a game! Maintaining friendships is a game, life is a game. There is a goal (even if the goal is to continue the game itself), there are strategies, there are tips & tricks...etc[/QUOTE]
redpill
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43915499]Is she for real? Holy shit this is the sort of feminism I can actually get behind.[/QUOTE]
Feminism is about choice instead of having someone else choose for you
You can talk for weeks about gender roles, sexualization, consent, reproductive rights, etc but in the end it all boils back down to choice
[QUOTE=Appellation;43916547]You frighten me.[/QUOTE]
He's right though. Relationships, be they friendships, sexual relationships, etc, are all a fine balance of give and take. You have to be on the ball sometimes and make sure other people aren't giving the people you care about more of a reason to be with them instead of you. Of course this usually comes naturally and you don't really need to 'make an effort' to do that because you just do it on autopilot, but sometimes things like your job get in the way and you have to make a note to focus on the people you care about for a while so they don't feel neglected.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43916632]yep you were right earlier i don't understand your idea of 'true love' at all
[editline]15th February 2014[/editline]
redpill[/QUOTE]
What does the MRA movement have to do with the philosophy that many many things are a game? You discount a totally legitimate viewpoint by childishly referencing some internet shit, good job.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43916688]Feminism is about choice instead of having someone else choose for you
You can talk for weeks about gender roles, sexualization, consent, reproductive rights, etc but in the end it all boils back down to choice[/QUOTE]
I feel like a lot of the modern feminists (or maybe it's just the loud ones) have completely forgotten this. There's a girl a year below me in my course at uni that gets mad at other girls enjoying 'girly' things because that means they're caving into gender roles and stereotypes, etc.
Which is funny, because she too is caving into some specific lifestyle choice by getting upset at that and advocating against it.
[QUOTE=be;43916748]What does the MRA movement have to do with the philosophy that many many things are a game? You discount a totally legitimate viewpoint by childishly referencing some internet shit, good job.[/QUOTE]
posting is just a game
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43916781]posting is just a game[/QUOTE]
there's a reason the top philosophers of our time assert: "the pussy game ridiclus", they see the parallels between games and life, why don't you
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Shouldn't you ban yourself for a reaction image|smiley right now?
To the article. What a huge load of bullcrap honestly. It's basically written in order to be a kick in the gut to those who want to be more than just a mother in the real world. Even the wording is pretty direct - more so if you have good academic credentials.
- spend more time planning your family than your career
I say sod it. I'd prefer to have a career than a a family anyway
[QUOTE=be;43916787]there's a reason the top philosophers of our time assert: "the pussy game ridiclus", they see the parallels between games and life, why don't you[/QUOTE]
people that draw those parallels are emotionally-retarded borderline sociopathic losers so i dunno i'd rather not
[QUOTE=wraithcat;43916812]Shouldn't you ban yourself for a reaction image|smiley right now?
To the article. What a huge load of bullcrap honestly. It's basically written in order to be a kick in the gut to those who want to be more than just a mother in the real world. Even the wording is pretty direct - more so if you have good academic credentials.
- spend more time planning your family than your career
I say sod it. I'd prefer to have a career than a a family anyway[/QUOTE]
But then wouldn't you be banned for backseat moderation?
And then wouldn't I be banned for backseat backseat moderation?
Oh god.
And really, you really want to lie on your deathbed, look back on your life, and think, "shit, I had a good career!"? Work to live, don't live to work.
[QUOTE=sltungle;43916829]But then wouldn't you be banned for backseat moderation?
And then wouldn't I be banned for backseat backseat moderation?
Oh god.
And really, you really want to lie on your deathbed, look back on your life, and think, "shit, I had a good career!"? Work to live, don't live to work.[/QUOTE]
Alternatively, do you want to lie on your deathbed and wonder - what if I had taken those choices instead. What if I had followed my dreams, where would I be today.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;43916856]Alternatively, do you want to lie on your deathbed and wonder - what if I had taken those choices instead. What if I had followed my dreams, where would I be today.[/QUOTE]
Possibly on your death bed. Possibly alone, possibly with a gold digger, possibly with the friends/family you managed to fit in. But, more likely than not you'd already be dead. Studies on old people, survival, socialization, etc etc
[QUOTE=be;43916787]there's a reason the top philosophers of our time assert: "the pussy game ridiclus", they see the parallels between games and life, why don't you[/QUOTE]
I don't think that was intended to be used the way it's commonly interpreted, unless I'm thinking of something else in that area
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43916821]people that draw those parallels are emotionally-retarded borderline sociopathic losers so i dunno i'd rather not[/QUOTE]
No it's pretty objectively true...it doesn't make someone sociopathic to say that life has no objective meaning just because it's a little sad.
[QUOTE=be;43917087]No it's pretty objectively true...it doesn't make someone sociopathic to say that life has no objective meaning just because it's a little sad.[/QUOTE]
you weren't even talking about lifes meaning or lack thereof, you were saying everything can be treated like a game. and when you consider feelings, interactions and other people as part of playing a game you're fucked in the head and borderline sociopathic.
[editline]15th February 2014[/editline]
you cry about someone calling you 14 when you post this kind of stupid shit lol
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43917156]you weren't even talking about lifes meaning or lack thereof, you were saying everything can be treated like a game. and when you consider feelings, interactions and other people as part of playing a game you're fucked in the head and borderline sociopathic.
[editline]15th February 2014[/editline]
you cry about someone calling you 14 when you post this kind of stupid shit lol[/QUOTE]
Okay, how is it not a game? Because it has feelings involved? So do literal games.
The life meaning thing was a comparison
[QUOTE=be;43917317]Okay, how is it not a game? Because it has feelings involved? So do literal games.
The life meaning thing was a comparison[/QUOTE]
yes i'm sure 'love' and relationships have just as much feelings involved as the literal games you play. yes i'm sure when you get your heart broken you're gonna feel just as bad as when you lose a cod game. you are 14
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43917368]yes i'm sure 'love' and relationships have just as much feelings involved as the literal games you play. yes i'm sure when you get your heart broken you're gonna feel just as bad as when you lose a cod game. you are 14[/QUOTE]
How does their seriousness have any effect on what they are?
[QUOTE=be;43917317]Okay, how is it not a game? Because it has feelings involved? So do literal games.
The life meaning thing was a comparison[/QUOTE]
you sound very much like the kind of guy who sees women as an obstacle between himself and sex, and relationships as adversarial
You're literally just arguing with emotion. Anyway, I'm done arguing, you either agree or you don't. Just try to understand the parallels between things and don't be blinded by your emotional bias. Peace.
[editline]14th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43917399]you sound very much like the kind of guy who sees women as an obstacle between himself and sex, and relationships as adversarial[/QUOTE]
I'm not, you have no basis for making that judgement besides that that's all you ever think about
[QUOTE=be;43917414]You're literally just arguing with emotion. Anyway, I'm done arguing, you either agree or you don't. Just try to understand the parallels between things and don't be blinded by your emotional bias. Peace.[/QUOTE]
peace, i'm 'quitting to desktop' on this game of an argument
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43917399]you sound very much like the kind of guy who sees women as an obstacle between himself and sex, and relationships as adversarial[/QUOTE]
Everyone probably already knows this, but there are women like that too. Just as a PSA: If you ever get a compliment from a girl for doing something "alpha"; tread lightly. Or just listen out for near homicidal anger towards other women for....existing.
Stay safe kids
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;43915601]uuuuuuh[/QUOTE]
Dickens and A Christmas Carol man. Ask any psychologist if you'll be happier with a mediocre job and a good family, or a great job being alone. Should be common sense that getting a big promotion isn't as good as having kids.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43915620]except that is what this lady is saying. she's saying that women specifically should not focus on their careers and should instead be trying to land a husband.[/QUOTE]
It's not specific to women, but they should also take it into account. It makes sense too when you disregard the issues working women have in balancing a family and career instead opting for your ideal of pure career focus where relationships are easy. People can have a family and if they have to slow their career down for a bit, that takes precedent over your strong working woman image.
[quote] your 30s, competing with women in their 20s. That's not a competition in which you're likely to fare well[/quote]
but wouldn't your man be in his 30s as well? espeacially in highly skilled fields people tend to marry similar people, i have had at least 3 couples of professors in my couple years of college already, my lab instructor was my chem teacher's wife, and my advisor this year is last years advisor's husband, and those are just the ones i have had, i know of a few more.
[QUOTE=sltungle;43916767]I feel like a lot of the modern feminists (or maybe it's just the loud ones) have completely forgotten this. There's a girl a year below me in my course at uni that gets mad at other girls enjoying 'girly' things because that means they're caving into gender roles and stereotypes, etc.
Which is funny, because she too is caving into some specific lifestyle choice by getting upset at that and advocating against it.[/QUOTE]
Well those people are terrible scotsmen
[QUOTE=Devodiere;43917473]Dickens and A Christmas Carol man. Ask any psychologist if you'll be happier with a mediocre job and a good family, or a great job being alone. Should be common sense that getting a big promotion isn't as good as having kids.
It's not specific to women, but they should also take it into account. It makes sense too when you disregard the issues working women have in balancing a family and career instead opting for your ideal of pure career focus where relationships are easy. People can have a family and if they have to slow their career down for a bit, that takes precedent over your strong working woman image.[/QUOTE]
she is literally speaking specifically to women
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43917663]she is literally speaking specifically to women[/QUOTE]
And you think because someone targets their advice at a specific group, no other groups exist? If women have far more trouble settling down in their 30s than men, shouldn't someone address that rather than speak in vague general case?
Really do you take issue with the advice to put family over your career, or is it just because it's aimed at women?
[QUOTE=Devodiere;43917877]And you think because someone targets their advice at a specific group, no other groups exist? If women have far more trouble settling down in their 30s than men, shouldn't someone address that rather than speak in vague general case?
Really do you take issue with the advice to put family over your career, or is it just because it's aimed at women?[/QUOTE]
i take issue with some idiot making the assertion that women have to focus on a family rather than a career if they want to land a husband, i take issue with her implying that women become less desirable when they are intelligent and when they get older, i take issue with her implying that mens attractions are as base as youth and looks and i take issue with people like you defending this sexist nonsense by trying to claim she's saying something completely different than what she's blatantly saying.
I finally have an excuse to post this. I saw this poster in my school the other week and I couldn't tell if it was a joke at first.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/qOMGFjo.jpg[/t]
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