• The Higgs-Boson "God-particle" May Have Been Found
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So... this wasn't real then?
What if this "god-particle" ends up being unknownly another small and more bazzaire universe that we cannot discribe with our limited vocabarary. It's like a universe within a universe, then we find out OUR universe is a god particle for a much larger and brazzier universe!
[QUOTE=DimJim;29405610]this really doesn't prove anything against religion does it?[/QUOTE] Not at all. [QUOTE=Frankie;29414486]What if this "god-particle" ends up being unknownly another small and more bazzaire universe that we cannot discribe with our limited vocabarary. It's like a universe within a universe, then we find out OUR universe is a god particle for a much larger and brazzier universe![/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://jamiedubs.com/fuckflickr/data/xzibit-yo-dawg/web/xzibit-wtf.jpg[/img_thumb]
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Oh wow, they're gonna be able to open stargates to higher dimensions now with this. We're fucked. Time to escape this dimension man.
[QUOTE=Frankie;29414486]What if this "god-particle" ends up being unknownly another small and more bazzaire universe that we cannot discribe with our limited vocabarary. It's like a universe within a universe, then we find out OUR universe is a god particle for a much larger and brazzier universe![/QUOTE] What if we find out that the god particle is another, [i]larger[/i] universe
This proves God's existence. Where's your Darwin now?
[QUOTE=booster;29404048]Let's hope they find something, otherwise it would've been such a waste of time, and money.[/QUOTE] That's not how science works. A negative outcome with a sufficiently good test is as useful as a positive outcome, because both tell us something. The only time science is useless is when the science is badly done, because then we can't say if our conclusion is because of what we predicted or because the experiement was put together badly.
[QUOTE=Gunrun247;29417491]That's not how science works. A negative outcome with a sufficiently good test is as useful as a positive outcome, because both tell us something. The only time science is useless is when the science is badly done, because then we can't say if our conclusion is because of what we predicted or because the experiement was put together badly.[/QUOTE] True, but it'd be kind of a buzzkill if they didn't find anything.
[QUOTE=petieng;29400211]Go on Atlas's website and they even put up real time collison images from the detector.[/QUOTE] [url]http://atlas-live.cern.ch/[/url]
[QUOTE=DrLuke;29417972][url]http://atlas-live.cern.ch/[/url][/QUOTE] They also have real time images of all their status screens which is kinda cool (if you're a massive nerd who's into this shit like me). You can see when some 'expert' fucks up and triggers the safety systems whilst trying to tweak some operating parameters, causing the beams to be automatically dumped and stopping the whole LHC for a few hours :v: [url]http://op-webtools.web.cern.ch/op-webtools/vistar/vistars.php?usr=LHC1[/url] [url]http://op-webtools.web.cern.ch/op-webtools/vistar/vistars.php?usr=LHCDASHBOARD[/url] They've just finished with the current beams and dumped them, and now they're going to re-inject and ramp up to 3.5 TeV, half the energy the LHC was designed for. Dumping the beams is done all the time, once a day at least but energy wise it's the equivalent of slamming a 30 car freight train into a wall at 130mph.
It'd be amazing to work at CERN, that is, if I actually understood all this stuff.
[QUOTE=Theorisable;29418978]It'd be amazing to work at CERN, that is, if I actually understood all this stuff.[/QUOTE] CERN actually employs a very small number of particle physicists, the vast majority are technicians, maintenance, accelerator physicists, computer scientists etc to keep the place running. The particle physicists are employed by universities and research institutions and do their research there, as well as regularly travel out to CERN. Basically you're more likely to get a job at CERN if you're a computer technician or electrical engineer rather than a physicists
[QUOTE=booster;29417928]True, but it'd be kind of a buzzkill if they didn't find anything.[/QUOTE] If they don't find anything (which I don't think they ever will), then it means what we hypothesized is actually wrong, so we have a bunch more stuff to discover and find out! That's good news (to a scientist). [editline]25th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=petieng;29420135]CERN actually employs a very small number of particle physicists, the vast majority are technicians, maintenance, accelerator physicists, computer scientists etc to keep the place running. The particle physicists are employed by universities and research institutions and do their research there, as well as regularly travel out to CERN. Basically you're more likely to get a job at CERN if you're a computer technician or electrical engineer rather than a physicists[/QUOTE] Particle physics is my major, thanks for killing my CERN-boner. :(
[QUOTE=deathstarboot;29424004]If they don't find anything (which I don't think they ever will), then it means what we hypothesized is actually wrong, so we have a bunch more stuff to discover and find out! That's good news (to a scientist). [editline]25th April 2011[/editline] Particle physics is my major, thanks for killing my CERN-boner. :([/QUOTE] Do a PhD. PhD students in particle physics can go to the LHC etc and work there. Its still possible.
Chances are you'll be interpreting the data collected.
[QUOTE=deathstarboot;29424004] Particle physics is my major, thanks for killing my CERN-boner. :([/QUOTE] That's better, you get to do a PhD there, then live at home and frequently fly out to CERN to dick around in one of the detector control rooms, and claim the air travel and extortionate Geneva prices on expenses. Livin' the dream.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29415997]What if we find out that the god particle is another, [i]larger[/i] universe[/QUOTE] Oh I don't mean it as actual size I mean in a impossible measurement which I cannot describe or think or create in my mind in anyway in this universe.
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