Internet rages as a Baltimore Whole Foods market made effort to feed US Soldiers in the city. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Dr. Punchgroin;47630519]You'd think with the defense budget being so fuckhuge they wouldn't need meals from a mega corporation[/QUOTE] I don't think Whole Foods has a "Feed National Guard" budget allotted for that specific year. I think it's just that army food is shit and like the Whole Food supervisor at the time was like "hey I guess we could thank them with sandwhiches and I'm sure corporate wouldn't mind". It's like, the food is there why not use it.

[QUOTE=Dr. Punchgroin;47630519]You'd think with the defense budget being so fuckhuge they wouldn't need meals from a mega corporation[/QUOTE] If I'm in a unit that is operating in a huge city with many people causing havoc and rioting, I wouldn't mind getting support from local businesses especially when it comes to food. I'd rather have some nice sandwiches with real bread than an MRE any time of the day.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;47631729]If I'm in a unit that is operating in a huge city with many people causing havoc and rioting, I wouldn't mind getting support from local businesses especially when it comes to food. I'd rather have some nice sandwiches with real bread than an MRE any time of the day.[/QUOTE] Especially since the MREs the guard issues are stripped down versions of what active duty uses. [t]http://www.ameriqual.com/images/TOTM.jpg[/t]

"As Baltimore's poorest kids are left hungry due to school closure (no school lunch), @WholeFoods feed the oppressor." If the only time the kids get something to eat is school, what about the weekend? You shouldn't send your kids to school just for them to have something to eat. I thought americans with no income get food stamps? [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Antdawg;47629249]When we had our floods last week we didn't have soldiers come in, we had volunteers from our state emergency service.[/QUOTE] What if there weren't enough volunteers? [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=zin908;47629316]Sometimes I think Facepunch is the only sane area of the internet left. Using the term "sane" loosely, since we are all lunatics in our own right.[/QUOTE] Facepunch isn't a hivemind, so thinking of it as one entity is quatsch

Hey people Talking about soldiers, fed gov, national guard... I know its offtopic, but I've always wondered... What's the best trained and equipped division/unit that is not SF in the US army? I know in UK its the Royal Marines for example

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;47636063]Hey people Talking about soldiers, fed gov, national guard... I know its offtopic, but I've always wondered... What's the best trained and equipped division/unit that is not SF in the US army? I know in UK its the Royal Marines for example[/QUOTE] Royal Marines are marines though Probably 101st if you're excluding the 75th and GBs? I'm not sure [editline]30th April 2015[/editline] i guess the 82nd more now since they still do jumps [editline]30th April 2015[/editline] as a side note marines, airborne, and sof are generally equipped less than regular forces since they're lightweight infantry

[QUOTE=Jund;47636092]as a side note marines, airborne, and sof are generally equipped worse than regular forces since they're lightweight infantry[/QUOTE] How would they be equipped worse? I thought the distinction today between light and heavy infantry was that heavy infantry are supported by IFVs and tanks, while light infantry can't rely on that support. At least that's how I think it is in Australia. I remember reading somewhere that light infantry, perhaps ironically, end up carrying more equipment than heavy infantry.

[QUOTE=Jund;47636092]Royal Marines are marines though Probably 101st if you're excluding the 75th and GBs? I'm not sure [editline]30th April 2015[/editline] i guess the 82nd more now since they still do jumps [editline]30th April 2015[/editline] as a side note marines, airborne, and sof are generally equipped worse than regular forces since they're lightweight infantry[/QUOTE] You're probably right about Marines and Airborne, but SOFs get the best of the best equipment, especially units such as CAG/NSWDG [editline]30th April 2015[/editline] They might choose to carry less, but it's definitely not "worse equipment"

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;47635892]Especially since the MREs the guard issues are stripped down versions of what active duty uses. [t]http://www.ameriqual.com/images/TOTM.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] i wouldn't say stripped down because you're still getting an entree, snack, wheat bread and spread, drinks, and extras. just different menus.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;47635892]Especially since the MREs the guard issues are stripped down versions of what active duty uses. [t]http://www.ameriqual.com/images/TOTM.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Looks about the same, MRES aren't the most amazing things in the woeld either way. [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Cutthecrap;47636063]Hey people Talking about soldiers, fed gov, national guard... I know its offtopic, but I've always wondered... What's the best trained and equipped division/unit that is not SF in the US army? I know in UK its the Royal Marines for example[/QUOTE] Some Army unit. Marines get the shit leftovers the Army doesn't want, although they do kick more ass and get more pussy wet while doing it tho.

[QUOTE=Apache249;47636386]You're probably right about Marines and Airborne, but SOFs get the best of the best equipment, especially units such as CAG/NSWDG [editline]30th April 2015[/editline] They might choose to carry less, but it's definitely not "worse equipment"[/QUOTE] equipped worse in terms of quantity i mean, not worse equipment [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Antdawg;47636257]How would they be equipped worse? I thought the distinction today between light and heavy infantry was that heavy infantry are supported by IFVs and tanks, while light infantry can't rely on that support. At least that's how I think it is in Australia. I remember reading somewhere that light infantry, perhaps ironically, end up carrying more equipment than heavy infantry.[/QUOTE] they carry more equipment like survival gear and food, not combat specific equipment

[QUOTE=Jund;47636756]equipped worse in terms of quantity i mean, not worse equipment [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] they carry more equipment like survival gear and food, not combat specific equipment[/QUOTE] Less =/= worse

[QUOTE=Apache249;47636841]Less =/= worse[/QUOTE] i never said they got worse equipment, i said they were equipped worse [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] and yes, worse in terms of quantity = less

[QUOTE=Jund;47636876]i never said they got worse equipment, i said they were equipped worse [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] and yes, worse in terms of quantity = less[/QUOTE] This is a really stupid argument, but you wouldn't say that having less quantity things such as diseases, injuries, or crimes would be "worse quantity". [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] using 'worse' implies good or bad, and having less of something can be good, bad, or neither

[QUOTE=Fourier;47631045]I must conquer this. I do not know what this riot is about but many revolutions in history were violent and bloody.[/QUOTE] you have to remember that most facepunchers are probably middle-class, and rather sheltered, they think peaceful protesting works at all times, when historically, peaceful protests working are the exception(even to this day), not the rule, its like they never read a history book.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;47637501]you have to remember that most facepunchers are probably middle-class, and rather sheltered, they think peaceful protesting works at all times, when historically, peaceful protests working are the exception(even to this day), not the rule, its like they never read a history book.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/05/peaceful-protest-is-much-more-effective-than-violence-in-toppling-dictators/]Times have changed.[/url]

The hell? Isn't it the job of Whole Foods to serve food? So what is the deal here? The national guard came over, asked for some food, Whole Foods gave because they where keeping peace, and preventing rioters from DESTROYING the store. And the tweet about the "hungry kids cuz schools closed" is the fault of the rioters rioting and causing those schools to close down... People these days.

[QUOTE=Impact1986;47635974]"As Baltimore's poorest kids are left hungry due to school closure (no school lunch), @WholeFoods feed the oppressor." If the only time the kids get something to eat is school, what about the weekend? You shouldn't send your kids to school just for them to have something to eat. I thought americans with no income get food stamps? [/QUOTE] We just talked about this in my sociology class (currently discussing pay differences and social class). Although people get food stamps, free lunch at school is definitely a big help, some schools even send students home with lunches for the weekend. Also, some families may be right at that line where they don't get food stamps but still struggle to feed their children at times.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;47637501]you have to remember that most facepunchers are probably middle-class, and rather sheltered, they think peaceful protesting works at all times, when historically, peaceful protests working are the exception(even to this day), not the rule, its like they never read a history book.[/QUOTE] you're conflating violent protests with revolt, two similar concepts that vastly differ in projected outcome. [editline]1st May 2015[/editline] and let me tell you, revolution comes with a fucking shitton of things to consider and isn't something you should be suggesting without giving it serious thought

[QUOTE=Antdawg;47629189]Why does Baltimore need soldiers to keep the peace. Can't the police handle that themselves? America is weird.[/QUOTE] Why does antdawg make continuously shitty posts? Can't he read about how bad the riots are?

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;47638425]Why does antdawg make continuously shitty posts? Can't he reach about how bad the riots are?[/QUOTE] Yes I can reach about

hey sorry this is super late but [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47629218]It's the National Guard. The U.S. military can't operate on U.S. soil for civilian law enforcement because the army is ran by the federal government. The state's national guard, however, is operated by the state, and therefore is allowed to operate within it's state to be used as law enforcement to keep the peace, or as a defense for the state against the federal government.[B] It was a way to make sure the government couldn't use the army against the states.[/B][/QUOTE] whats to stop the government from using the national guard against the states? Or is it just that the army is much larger?

I've seen a lot of people saying that the state of emergency was called in unnecessarily before violence started, and that police were inciting violence, etc. I feel like that's probably a load of bullshit, are there any facts that can refute this point?

[QUOTE=Naarkie;47639107]hey sorry this is super late but whats to stop the government from using the national guard against the states? Or is it just that the army is much larger?[/QUOTE] this literally makes no sense

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;47637501]you have to remember that most facepunchers are probably middle-class, and rather sheltered, they think peaceful protesting works at all times, when historically, peaceful protests working are the exception(even to this day), not the rule, its like they never read a history book.[/QUOTE] It doesn't strike you as off that they're protesting excessive violence and brutality with violence?

[QUOTE=katbug;47639689]I've seen a lot of people saying that the state of emergency was called in unnecessarily before violence started, and that police were inciting violence, etc. I feel like that's probably a load of bullshit, are there any facts that can refute this point?[/QUOTE] most things i am reading seem to indicate state of emergency was called in the evening, and i vividly remember the protests starting in the afternoon, with a police car on fire during the middle of the day being the most prominent

I haven't really been keeping tabs on this whole Baltimore riot stuff, but why does it seem that people are on the police's side? Isn't this another case of a cop killing a black guy for simply resisting arrest?

[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;47640528]I haven't really been keeping tabs on this whole Baltimore riot stuff, but why does it seem that people are on the police's side? Isn't this another case of a cop killing a black guy for simply resisting arrest?[/QUOTE] being antiriot is not being pro-police.

Can't really say I blame them. If I was black, and had to deal with this shit all the time, I'd be breaking shit too.

that may be how you feel about it, but painting people who disapprove of violent protest/riot as being for those who murdered gray it just serves to fracture opinions even more when unity is what is needed most