• WikiLeaks Preparing to Release Video of U.S Massacre in Afghanistan; worse then previous
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[QUOTE=Micr0;22797291]So when will this video be released?[/QUOTE] Why doesn't anyone read the article [quote=ABC News]"Hopefully very soon," Birgitta Jonsdottir told ABC News' Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross, "but for security reasons we choose not to give the exact timing of when we will actually publish it."[/quote]
[QUOTE=bravehat;22797262]No sorry I saw that entire video 5 times, that was an illegal action, you do NOT, EVER, fire upon an ambulance, medics and ambulances are non combatants. And just because your enemy does, you do not have the right to ink as low as they do.[/QUOTE] BECAUSE THOSE GUYS IN THE HELICOPTER TOTALLY KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THE UNMARKED VAN WAS AN "AMBULANCE FILLED WITH MEDICS" Fuckin hell.
Yeesh, either this guy is hyping up just how much danger he's in or he's really fucked. Also, depsite what some people are saying I think it's admirable they're managing to get this stuff up.
[QUOTE=Aman V;22797342]BECAUSE THOSE GUYS IN THE HELICOPTER TOTALLY KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THE UNMARKED VAN WAS AN "AMBULANCE FILLED WITH MEDICS" Fuckin hell.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;22797197]Don't pull the trigger if your gun is pointed at something you're unable to identify[/QUOTE] Fuckin hell.
[QUOTE=Arrows;22794355]Who cares, war is war, what happens in war, stays in war. wikileaks should just die.[/QUOTE] Because gunning down crowds of Afghan civilians, when you're not even at war with Afghanistan, is so good.
[QUOTE=Aman V;22797342]BECAUSE THOSE GUYS IN THE HELICOPTER TOTALLY KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THE UNMARKED VAN WAS AN "AMBULANCE FILLED WITH MEDICS" Fuckin hell.[/QUOTE] ...they were carrying wounded men into the fucking van. Really, if anyone actually decides that because they aren't official medics they are free targets need a broken jaw.
[QUOTE=Aman V;22797342]BECAUSE THOSE GUYS IN THE HELICOPTER TOTALLY KNEW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THAT THE UNMARKED VAN WAS AN "AMBULANCE FILLED WITH MEDICS" Fuckin hell.[/QUOTE] Because those guys in the helicopter totally knew right off the bat that the unmarked van wasn't a civilian car. It's so obviously a terrorist car!
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22797430]Because those guys in the helicopter totally knew right off the bat that the unmarked van wasn't a civilian car. It's so obviously a terrorist car![/QUOTE] I know right? Because every middle eastern person is a terrorist.
[QUOTE=GunFox;22796618]That has to suck. Imagine going to work, getting home, and then watching a video of you at work.[/QUOTE] No. I'd rather have some closure on whether the guy I just blew into a million pieces was really a target or not.
I don't think there is anything wrong in revealing the truth after they fired at civilians and then laughed at them.
Wikileaks is great. Someone needs to organize a serious fundraiser for Wikileaks, so they can continue what they are doing best, freedom of speech, and showing the public what they don't see.
[QUOTE=Mac2468;22797499]I know right? Because every middle eastern person is a terrorist.[/QUOTE] The bulk of american soldiers, I'm sorry to say, have that mindset
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22797376]Because gunning down crowds of Afghan civilians, when you're not even at war with Afghanistan, is so good.[/QUOTE] Cause that actually happens right?
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22797430]Because those guys in the helicopter totally knew right off the bat that the unmarked van wasn't a civilian car. It's so obviously a terrorist car![/QUOTE] Black vans that immediately arrive at the location of an attack and the pick up the wounded don't look suspicious at all do they? I'm not saying it's okay to open fire on whatever, but when the adrenaline is running and the fear is there, mistakes are made. And when I say "immediately" I really mean immediately... like faster than any ambulance would get there.
[QUOTE=Luuper;22797691]The bulk of american soldiers, I'm sorry to say, have that mindset[/QUOTE] Which is a big reason I'm not too fond of my country.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22797769]Black vans that immediately arrive at the location of an attack and the pick up the wounded don't look suspicious at all do they? I'm not saying it's okay to open fire on whatever, but when the adrenaline is running and the fear is there, mistakes are made. And when I say "immediately" I really mean immediately... like faster than any ambulance would get there.[/QUOTE] They arrived 5 minutes after the first shots, they could have been people living down the road, or people who drive around trying to find the wounded, you know, like an ambulance. And if they are picking up the wounded they are not to be fired upon.
Pentagon "investigators" my ass
"airstrike" .. what do they mean by airstrike? off topic, anyone remember those two planes during the start of the iraq war that dropped bombs inside of a supposed enemy bunker, and inside was 300+ civilians?
[QUOTE=Arrows;22794355]Who cares, war is war, what happens in war, stays in war. wikileaks should just die.[/QUOTE] Why are all of you rating him dumb? He actually has a point... We don't need reporters/leakers sitting their trying to be propaganda artist... If you wanna see the war join the military.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22799249]Why are all of you rating him dumb? He actually has a point... We don't need reporters/leakers sitting their trying to be propaganda artist... If you wanna see the war join the military.[/QUOTE] People have a right to know what's going on. War is war, but the killing of non-combatants deliberately or through negligence is [B]illegal[/B]. They don't always get followed, but war has rules. If people break the rules then the public has a right to know about it. If someone is murdered in your town, the newspaper reports it. By your logic it shouldn't be reported and if you wan't to know about murders then you better do it yourself.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22795742]I never once heard that Apache "massacre" reported on the news. I was the only person in my entire friendship/family circle who had heard about it.[/QUOTE] I saw it on the news, and i'm not even american.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22799327]People have a right to know what's going on. War is war, but the killing of non-combatants deliberately or through negligence is [B]illegal[/B]. They don't always get followed, but war has rules. If people break the rules then the public has a right to know about it. If someone is murdered in your town, the newspaper reports it. By your logic it shouldn't be reported and if you wan't to know about murders then you better do it yourself.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't have to know whats going on in the war. By saying, "WE NEED VIDEOS" your just looking like some crazed psychopath. Why do we need to see whats going on in the war? What's wrong with just having a few soldier journals, and that's it. I don't see the point of having every UPI agent, and their mother recording videos of soldiers getting shot at, and occasionally getting killed. Also, War is hell. I hate when people state, "War has rules!" I've said it before myself regarding to nukes, but you wanna know something funny? If we had such big rules in wars why is it in sniper training your taught to take down a medic first? Answer that. Wanna know the reason? Kill the man who knows how to fix wounds, and you can slowly kill/demoralize the enemy. The Taliban/Al Quaeda presently does it to Coalition Medics yet you don't hear about it. You don't hear about civilians getting killed for following the coalition. You just hear about one fuck up done by the coalition, and believe we need a mass investigation on something simple as, "Well... We fucked up. Nothing can change that."
War has rules. America didn't sign up to play by them. EDIT: in most armies snipers are employed to take out high value targets. And just cause the terrorists/insurgents kill medics doesn't give us the right to.
[QUOTE=deggemannen;22794963]isn't CIA after the owner of WikiLeaks[/QUOTE] yes, because they are worried about who he is getting these videos from. they are worried that his sources will start leaking stuff like missile designs and other things like that.
god this video will be so good
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22799496]You shouldn't have to know whats going on in the war. By saying, "WE NEED VIDEOS" your just looking like some crazed psychopath. Why do we need to see whats going on in the war? What's wrong with just having a few soldier journals, and that's it. I don't see the point of having every UPI agent, and their mother recording videos of soldiers getting shot at, and occasionally getting killed. Also, War is hell. I hate when people state, "War has rules!" I've said it before myself regarding to nukes, but you wanna know something funny? If we had such big rules in wars why is it in sniper training your taught to take down a medic first? Answer that. Wanna know the reason? Kill the man who knows how to fix wounds, and you can slowly kill/demoralize the enemy. The Taliban/Al Quaeda presently does it to Coalition Medics yet you don't hear about it. You don't hear about civilians getting killed for following the coalition. You just hear about one fuck up done by the coalition, and believe we need a mass investigation on something simple as, "Well... We fucked up. Nothing can change that."[/QUOTE] Snipers are not trained to kill medics, do you know what the Geneva Convention is? Hint: it's a war crime to kill someone wearing the red cross. Medics help both sides after an engagement.
[QUOTE=Aman V;22797719]Cause that actually happens right?[/QUOTE] so are you just going to dismiss and ignore the notion that combatants should not fire at something they can't identify [editline]11:16AM[/editline] because if so you might as well get out of this thread
[QUOTE=Foda;22800165]Snipers are not trained to kill medics, do you know what the Geneva Convention is? Hint: it's a war crime to kill someone wearing the red cross. Medics help both sides after an engagement.[/QUOTE] he's not talking about coalition snipers
great more reason for people to say "lol America is full of trigger happy morons who just wanna shoot shit and take everyone's oil lololol"
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;22795742]I never once heard that Apache "massacre" reported on the news. I was the only person in my entire friendship/family circle who had heard about it.[/QUOTE] We dedicated an entire hour in social study to it. (I asked my teacher what he felt about it, and bam.. I hit a button!)
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