50 Shades of [Sigh]: The Disastrous 50 Shades of Grey Press Tour - Polidicks

[QUOTE=catbarf;47121401][url]http://theramblingcurl.blogspot.com/2014/02/fifty-abusive-moments-in-fifty-shades.html[/url] Have a read. IMO, there's nothing wrong with unrealistic fantasy, but the number of people who seem to say 'yes I would want this in real life' is concerning, and honestly it's a little dangerous if people are using a book like this to inform their perceptions of BDSM.[/QUOTE] jesus i remember when this book came out everyone laughed their asses off and jokes around the internet circulated i thought it was just regular kinky bdsm but apparently it's really fucked up sexual abuse, and just now I realised this when people started to give a shit

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;47130370]All of the sudden, everyone is a BDSM expert... on fb, twitter, everywhere. It's one thing to bash the movie just for the fuck of it, but damn...[/QUOTE] tbh you don't need to be a bdsm expert to know that the book's showing a horribly distorted version of it.

How many of you who are saying the book is shit have even read it. ... Not saying I have or anything.

Guys, i'm in trouble. My girlfriend wants to go see it and then reenact what we see.... She is a Olympic Soccer player, so no I'm not dumping her.

[QUOTE=Gprimeisback;47130605]How many of you who are saying the book is shit have even read it. ... Not saying I have or anything.[/QUOTE] You don't need to eat a meal to know it's shit if it's covered in mold and flies

[QUOTE=Tudd;47130867]Guys, i'm in trouble. My girlfriend wants to go see it and then reenact what we see.... She is a Olympic Soccer player, so no I'm not dumping her.[/QUOTE] Trust me, once she see's the film, she won't. Since the girl looks like she is having no fun at all.

Did 50 shades of grey really start out as a twlight fanfic? I remember checking the book out a long time ago to try and read it but I lost interest after a while :v: what I read was pretty harmless and not really a big deal but I didn't read it all. [edit] [b]OH MY GOD IT DID START OUT AS A TWLIGHT FANFIC [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey"]LMFAO[/URL][/b]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;47121104]I don't get why so many women enjoy the thought of them being used like what I'm hearing in this thread right now. I thought 50 Shades Of Gray was just really kinky consensual BDSM, not whatever the hell I'm hearing in this thread.[/QUOTE] 50 shades is basically what people who [I]aren't[/I] into bdsm imagine what bdsm looks like, because they'd be outright disgusted by real bdsm.

[QUOTE=Tudd;47130867]Guys, i'm in trouble. My girlfriend wants to go see it and then reenact what we see.... She is a Olympic Soccer player, so no I'm not dumping her.[/QUOTE] Yesterday I went to my local cinema to watch John Wick. It was also the premiere day of Fifty Shades of Grey. I could instantly tell how many boyfriends/husbands were there out of free will. None. Also, there were a few groups of women aged 50+. Made me kinda feel uncomfortable. "Yo, my grandma saw Fifty Shades of Gray yesterday, she says it's the dankest shit."

[QUOTE=Covalent;47122045]50 shades of grey has taught me that it's okay to abuse a woman by showing her flashy things, then beating them into submission it also taught me that apparently a lot of women get off to this book and its ideas it's also a seriously dreadful read if you're a guy I don't think I'd date a girl who read this book, probably gonna limit my options, but it's really a horrible book, despite what it teaches[/QUOTE] Every chicklit novel is a dreadful read if you're a guy. I was on holiday with friends and forgot to bring a book to read at the pool. So a girl says "oh, you can borrow one of mine if you want". That's when I realized when girls are condescending to guys about porn, they're big fat hypocrites. Every single chicklit novel I've read was blatant pornography, with women describing orgasms, the feeling of being cummed inside, etc. Consider that the next time you see a girl reading one of those thin romance novels at a beach or something.

World is strange. Girls nowadays fight so much over feminism and rights equality, but then they get so overly hyped over a book which basically shows what a plaything can a woman be. Huh?

Girls aren't a hive mind.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47132006]World is strange. Girls nowadays fight so much over feminism and rights equality, but then they get so overly hyped over a book which basically shows what a plaything can a woman be. Huh?[/QUOTE] There's a difference between oppression in society and romantic/bdsm fictional oppression dude

[QUOTE][QUOTE] The reality of it is, like, burly man you don't know very well three feet from your face, which isn't how you usually have sex. [/QUOTE][/QUOTE] Well, maybe that's not how YOU have sex...

[QUOTE=V12US;47131957]Every chicklit novel is a dreadful read if you're a guy. I was on holiday with friends and forgot to bring a book to read at the pool. So a girl says "oh, you can borrow one of mine if you want". That's when I realized when girls are condescending to guys about porn, they're big fat hypocrites. Every single chicklit novel I've read was blatant pornography, with women describing orgasms, the feeling of being cummed inside, etc. Consider that the next time you see a girl reading one of those thin romance novels at a beach or something.[/QUOTE] I've actually just seen one today on the train. You're right, they're protected by double standards.

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47123298]I can't fucking wait to see this movie. No joke. I would NEVER pay to see it, but honestly, it sounds so fucking bad that it'll be hilarious. The bits from the book that I read were so badly written that I was actually laughing out loud at times. I just find it appalling how many people take it seriously.[/QUOTE] watching it for hilarity might not even work out based on this :v: [quote=some facebook review girl]This review is by Rosie (I don't know who she is, [one of my friends just shared this] "I walked into the premiere screening of Fifty Shades of Grey last night planning to walk out with a bunch of ridiculous and funny material that would lead to a hilarious recap. Instead, I walked out of the cinema on the verge of tears. I’m really, really sorry you guys. I know I made a big deal yesterday about how I was going to write a ‘totes-hilare’ review. I obnoxiously posted pics from the red carpet and tweeted in all caps at the first sighting of pubes. But I screwed up. I screwed up big time. I went into this film thinking it would be two hours of B-grade hilarity about bondage that I could make fun of. It was actually two hours of incredibly disturbing content about an emotionally abusive relationship that left me really, really shaken. And now I’m embarrassed that I ever joked about it. I haven’t read any of the Fifty Shades books, so I went into last night’s screening cold. I think that was the problem. The phenomenon has only ever been on the periphery of my care-factor zone. I honestly thought the story was just about a young, sexually inexperienced woman, who meets a slightly older, extremely sexually experienced man, and he teaches her everything she needs to know in three books of clit-tingling sex-scenes. It was my understanding that the sex was BDSM-themed, which, with my limited knowledge of that stuff, I assumed included some tying up of hands and slapping on the bum and… I don’t know – blindfolds? I thought the books were all about kinky, slightly naughty sex. Sex that mixed pleasure with a bit of pain and made housewives around the world read the book with one hand free. And I’m all about women pleasuring themselves, so other than thinking I was glad some sexually-repressed women were getting their rocks off, I didn’t really give it much more thought. I had heard the rumblings from domestic violence groups wanting people to boycott the film, but with limited understanding of the story, I assumed that was because it involved a woman being physically harmed by a man during sex. And my opinion was, well, if they’re two consenting adults, and being tied up and slapped is their thing, then what’s the big deal? But I had no idea that Fifty Shades of Grey isn’t just about the sex. It’s also about an incredibly disturbing and manipulative emotionally abusive relationship. So, about half an hour into last night’s screening, I found myself doing a horrified double-take. I quite suddenly realised that I was watching a film that glorified domestic abuse. The relationship between Christian Grey and Anastasia Steele is one of the most fucked up and upsetting I’ve ever seen portrayed on the big screen. And let me be clear to the women who are incredibly defensive of the book that gave them a sexual awakening: When I talk about domestic abuse, I’m not talking about the sex. In fact, I considered the sex to be the least offensive part of the movie. Christian’s ‘playroom’ was everything I had hoped for comedy-wise – it looked like the home you imagine the gimp from Pulp Fiction would go home to at the end of the day. He tied up Anastasia and they did lots of sexy things with whips and feathers and her pleasure seemed just as important as his, which is refreshing for a blockbuster film. But let’s take the sex out of the equation for a minute. Because as I was sitting in that cinema last night, I was completely floored by what I was watching. And by what millions of women had accepted as a relationship to aspire to. Christian meets Anna. He is immediately obsessed with her. He figures out where she works and turns up there unannounced. He tracks her phone one night and confronts her on the street. He even lets himself into her home, and shocks her by walking into her bedroom while she’s alone. When they start dating, he immediately puts himself in a position of complete control. He plays with her emotions and confuses her by doing things like tenderly kissing her, then pushing her away. He refuses to share a bed with her after they sleep together. She is in tears about the way he treats her within a few days. She finds herself staring longingly at couples who seem to be happy and affectionate with one another. He buys her a computer so he can contact her whenever he wants. He sells her car and provides her with one that he approves of, all without asking her. He tells her that she’s not allowed to tell anybody about what goes on between the two of them, or it’s over, essentially isolating her from friends and family. He says that she must dress in clothes that he chooses. She must go to a doctor that he chooses, and take the contraceptive that he chooses. She must eat what he chooses. She’s not allowed to drink to excess. He tells her that it is her job to please him, and that if she doesn’t keep him happy to his exact specifications, it’s over. When he finds out that she has scheduled a trip to her mother’s house in another state without asking him, he is furious. He throws her over his shoulder and screams, “YOU ARE MINE. ALL MINE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?” By this point, Christian has complete control of Anna. He dictates when they see each other, how affectionate they are with each other and who Anna is allowed to talk to and spend time with. Her friends and family can tell that she’s unhappy. But above all, Anna is confused. Whenever she tries to reach out to Christian, she doesn’t know if he’s going to be receptive or ice-cold. He’s inconsistent, and, desperate to hang on to the few moments that he’s nice to her, that inconsistency keeps Anna under his control. She seems to think that if she stays, if she just keeps trying, she’ll figure out how to make him happy and he’ll stop treating her so badly. Anna is smack-bang in the middle of an emotionally abusive relationship. Now, take all of what I just described, and add some BDSM sex. Then, take all the conditions Christian placed on Anna, and frame them in the context of an ‘official BDSM contract’ that he made her sign. That is how this movie makes domestic abuse seem okay. It’s emotional abuse disguised as a ‘naughty sex contract’. It’s domestic violence dressed up as sexy fantasy. And it’s a genius, subtle move. Putting this kind of controlling, emotionally abusive relationship in the context of a sexy billionaire who just needs to be loved, makes it ridiculously easy to convince audiences the world over that this kind of behaviour is okay. He’s not some poor drunk with a mullet, hitting his wife for not doing the dishes. Christian is classy. Rich. Educated. He’s not what most women imagine an abuser to be, and his kind of abuse is not what most women would immediately recognise. Not to mention, the combination of emotional abuse and sexual bondage means anybody who says they find the message in the story disturbing can be reduced to a ‘prude’, or accused of not understanding what BDSM involves. The blurred lines in this film mean any kind discussion about abuse can be easily shut down by those determined to be obtuse because they like the sexy blindfolds. But there is no doubt in my mind that the film I watched last night was a disturbing and clear depiction of a controlling and emotionally abusive relationship. This was domestic violence. I don’t care how many women learned to embrace sex because of Fifty Shades of Grey. THIS WAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I was somewhat heartened when the film ended with Anna deciding her limits had been pushed too far. She leaves Christian and is clear that she doesn’t want him to follow. Then I found out that she goes back to him, and spends the next two books in the same emotional and manipulative turmoil. She spends the next two books clinging to the good moments they have together, hoping that eventually the good will outweigh the bad. Hoping that one day she’ll figure out how to make him happy, so he won’t need to keep treating her badly. Hoping that if she just… keeps… trying… This was domestic abuse marketed as Valentine’s Day fun. That’s why I nearly cried. And that’s why I couldn’t write a funny recap. I’m embarrassed that I ever thought I could."[/quote]

[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;47133119]....review.... This review is by Rosie-Senpai [/QUOTE] Welp, 4 words and I already know it's shit.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47133138]Welp, 4 words and I already know it's shit.[/QUOTE] fixed it since it bothers you so much. The review does a pretty good job of showing you the reaction of a girl expecting different from the movie when she's never read the books

My mother sees news and commercials on this, and my fears are fairly rationalized. Thankfully, she's absolutely zero interest in it... But for different reasons. She's says she's not BDSM, perfectly understandable... But that tells me that she thinks that that's what this book is. I express how I dislike the book/movie, because it's flat out abuse and she says "oh, well some people are into that." People think that 50 Shades is legitimate BDSM. It's scary to me.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47132006]World is strange. Girls nowadays fight so much over feminism and rights equality, but then they get so overly hyped over a book which basically shows what a plaything can a woman be. Huh?[/QUOTE] You're right, between a shitty movie and a movement for equality - what are women [I]really[/I] thinking?

Why is it such a strange and abstract concept to so many people than women have weird fucking fetishes just like men have weird fucking fetishes I mean it doesn't change the fact 50 shades of grey is like the worst god damn book of this decade but still

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47133961]Why is it such a strange and abstract concept to so many people than women have weird fucking fetishes just like men have weird fucking fetishes I mean it doesn't change the fact 50 shades of grey is like the worst god damn book of this decade but still[/QUOTE] I don't understand. When was this an issue?

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;47134119]I don't understand. When was this an issue?[/QUOTE] Comments like: "World is strange. Girls nowadays fight so much over feminism and rights equality, but then they get so overly hyped over a book which basically shows what a plaything can a woman be. Huh?" Which is exactly what I mentioned earlier.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47133138]Welp, 4 words and I already know it's shit.[/QUOTE] Ragekipz is the only word i need to kno ur posts r shit

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;47134127]Comments like: "World is strange. Girls nowadays fight so much over feminism and rights equality, but then they get so overly hyped over a book which basically shows what a plaything can a woman be. Huh?" Which is exactly what I mentioned earlier.[/QUOTE] When women have these fetishes people say "Oh get over it". When it's men people say "Ugh, disgusting pig". Also if this book was from the guy's POV it would cause a huge backlash. [QUOTE=Mingebox;47134207]Ragekipz is the only word i need to kno ur posts r shit[/QUOTE] And don't ever let someone tell you otherwise.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47134890]Also if this book was from the guy's POV it would cause a huge backlash. [/QUOTE] Lol no it wouldn't

No guy would ever write a book like this cause what guy would buy it? "Where are the pictures? There ARE pictures right?"

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47135326]Lol no it wouldn't[/QUOTE] Then why don't you try to sumarize the story from the guy's POV?

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;47134890]When women have these fetishes people say "Oh get over it". When it's men people say "Ugh, disgusting pig". Also if this book was from the guy's POV it would cause a huge backlash. [/QUOTE] You mean the very same backlash the book is already getting, for example, the review you decided to ignore because you didn't like the posters username?. I don't see why you are trying to make this about sexism and double standards, anyone prudish enough to call a man a pig for being into kink would be just as quick to call a woman a whore for the same dumb reason.

ONE OF THE TWO LEAD ACTORS OF THE FILM REFERRED TO THE MOVIE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS ADOLF HITLER This is going to be a wonderful disaster