50 Shades of [Sigh]: The Disastrous 50 Shades of Grey Press Tour - Polidicks

[QUOTE=V3nom;47136351]ONE OF THE TWO LEAD ACTORS OF THE FILM REFERRED TO THE MOVIE IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS ADOLF HITLER This is going to be a wonderful disaster[/QUOTE] Godwin's law. I find interesting that book fans are hating on the male lead. [QUOTE=fulgrim;47136335]You mean the very same backlash the book is already getting, for example, the review you decided to ignore because you didn't like the posters username?. I don't see why you are trying to make this about sexism and double standards, anyone prudish enough to call a man a pig for being into kink would be just as quick to call a woman a whore for the same dumb reason.[/QUOTE] Well let's start by the fact that I did read the review. I know that sexism and double standards aren't the central point, I'm well aware that people just like shitty things and that it faces a fair share of criticism and backlash.

[QUOTE=Tudd;47130867]Guys, i'm in trouble. My girlfriend wants to go see it and then reenact what we see.... She is a Olympic Soccer player, so no I'm not dumping her.[/QUOTE] As long as it's only the first book in the movie, you'll be fine. The most that happens in the first book iirc is spanking and regular sex. It's the other two books you gotta watch out for. [editline]a[/editline] Yes, I've read these. [editline]13th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragekipz;47136230]Then why don't you try to sumarize the story from the guy's POV?[/QUOTE] Alright, you want it from his POV? [sp]"I'm mentally ill from child abuse and seeing my mom dead on the floor, being left with her body after her pimp called the cops and left. Because of that, I have a fucked up depiction of love. Now that I've finally met someone I love for once (Anastasia), I have an overbearing need to protect her and overreact to everything when she does anything that she [I]could[/I] get hurt from, though in the end I'm finally able to let her freely do what she wants in many cases without flipping my shit."[/sp] That should about cover it. Thing is, I doubt people'd want to read that, since it's less "let's fuck" and is more "let's fuck as a distraction from the pain [sp]of being mentally ill.[/sp]" So yeah, if you factor in that shit, it probably wouldn't be considered as bad unless we have people do the exact same thing they're doing with this and going "HURR DURR IT'S JUST SEX AND ABUSE GLAD I'VE NEVER READ IT" I mean hell, in every thread I see about this there's always people spreading bullshit misinformation about what happens. I once saw someone say that "Christian ignores a safeword" when in reality,[sp] the only fucking time she ever does it, he immediately bails on what they were doing and unties her bindings.[/sp] I dunno why I bother spoiler-tagging this when nobody here really cares, but yeah.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;47134127]Comments like: "World is strange. Girls nowadays fight so much over feminism and rights equality, but then they get so overly hyped over a book which basically shows what a plaything can a woman be. Huh?" Which is exactly what I mentioned earlier.[/QUOTE] Based on the perception that Anastasia is manipulated in 50 Shades, rather than is just into kink.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;47137269]Based on the perception that Anastasia is manipulated in 50 Shades, rather than is just into kink.[/QUOTE] Why would you assume that those who do enjoy the book are unable to separate fantasy from reality. As you said earlier, this sort of thing is junk food. That a damaged man is obsessed with the self-insert is part of the kinky fantasy. However readers won't actually seek out such a relationship. And it certainly doesn't set their values for feminism.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47137625]Is there any proof that it came from a twilight fan-fic? I hear so much shit-talk about this series and none of it is ever backed up. Just he-said she-said.[/QUOTE] If I recall correctly, one of the first pages of the book says that the author self-published a previous version of the book online using the username "Snowqueens Icedragon". If you search that username, you may find twilight fan-fictions.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47137625]Is there any proof that it came from a twilight fan-fic? I hear so much shit-talk about this series and none of it is ever backed up. Just he-said she-said.[/QUOTE]It was literally part of the inner fold of the original printings. The original fan fiction can still be found. "Masters of the Universe" I believe it was called. In fact, I think in the original fanfic the characters were still just named Edward and Bella.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;47137380]Why would you assume that those who do enjoy the book are unable to separate fantasy from reality. As you said earlier, this sort of thing is junk food. That a damaged man is obsessed with the self-insert is part of the kinky fantasy. [B]However readers won't actually seek out such a relationship. [/B]And it certainly doesn't set their values for feminism.[/QUOTE] But the worry is of people thinking it's normal BDSM. It's junk food, yes, and it's okay if you realize that it's junk food. Like I said, people [I]are[/I] looking at this and thinking it's a kinky, exciting film about BDSM. For media that depicts brutality, violence is discussed well and often enough for people to watch it and go "this is bad behaviour for this environment." For media that depicts romance, love lives are discussed often enough and experienced enough for someone to go "yeah, no, that's not how it works." BDSM isn't. It's still an overall taboo (though at least it's on a "it's okay if you like it, but don't be open about it" level), and thus, isn't discussed commonly for people to understand what's right and wrong. People know what is drastically right/wrong with romance/violence. Unless you go beyond 50 Shades of Grey, they likely won't know that for BDSM. My only hope is that people who [I]do[/I] see 50 Shades and go "ooh, I wanna do that" will go on to actually look it up and learn how to safely go about it.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;47139747]But the worry is of people thinking it's normal BDSM. It's junk food, yes, and it's okay if you realize that it's junk food. Like I said, people [I]are[/I] looking at this and thinking it's a kinky, exciting film about BDSM. For media that depicts brutality, violence is discussed well and often enough for people to watch it and go "this is bad behaviour for this environment." For media that depicts romance, love lives are discussed often enough and experienced enough for someone to go "yeah, no, that's not how it works." BDSM isn't. It's still an overall taboo (though at least it's on a "it's okay if you like it, but don't be open about it" level), and thus, isn't discussed commonly for people to understand what's right and wrong. People know what is drastically right/wrong with romance/violence. Unless you go beyond 50 Shades of Grey, they likely won't know that for BDSM. My only hope is that people who [I]do[/I] see 50 Shades and go "ooh, I wanna do that" will go on to actually look it up and learn how to safely go about it.[/QUOTE] This is a fair concern. It's not so much that I'm defending this book (I read half of it---it's crap), but rather I've just seen so many people discrediting women as a whole using it, because women are too stupid to see that it's abuse. It's a vocal minority, but it keeps springing up. The fear of someone tightening their handcuffs too tightly is more valid than, "She's beaten by her boyfriend because she read 50 Shades and wanted it."

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