Climate change denial will be ‘default position’ of White House says Trump’s chief of staff
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[QUOTE=Judas;51447675]no, literal actual fascism
[editline]30th November 2016[/editline]
fascism doesn't [i]start[/i] with death squads and ethnic cleansing, it starts by electing people by trump[/QUOTE]
Its watching a slow motion crash of a train. And the Train is the US
i really really can't wait for florida or some major metropolitin area to be washed away by climate change and republicans are forced to answer to their frankly criminal negligence at this point.
[QUOTE=Sableye;51447801]i really really can't wait for florida or some major metropolitin area to be washed away by climate change and republicans are forced to answer to their frankly criminal negligence at this point.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully most of us will be alive on that day.
rip the earth was nice while it lasted. Pacific ocean was a bit too big though maybe next time we can make it smaller
Shouldn't you be able to sue climate change denying politicians if they actively make laws that further climate change? Like sue on behalf of the planet or something.. or have them charged with criminal negligence for having a hand in actively destroying the planet?
[quote]"I think that’s what he’s saying"[/quote]
I think I finally found the sentence that perfectly describes Trump's entire political escapade and why he became the president-elect
Trump straight-up eludes me. The way he constantly flip-flops without much notice beforehand is as confusing as it is concerning, like i can never trust the person I'm supposed to have the most trust in, but at the same time it's also the one thing that gives me hope that maybe he won't fuck up the world as much as i thought, that he'll instead never have his mind set on one position for long enough to neither help or destroy the world further. Which is still pretty bad.
[editline]29th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;51447805]Hopefully most of us will be alive on that day.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather not live to see that world if it comes to it
[QUOTE=June;51447840]Shouldn't you be able to sue climate change denying politicians if they actively make laws that further climate change? Like sue on behalf of the planet or something.. or have them charged with criminal negligence for having a hand in actively destroying the planet?[/QUOTE]
It's not like people aren't trying.
[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/kids-suing-government-for-climate-change-2016-11[/url]
[QUOTE=June;51447840]Shouldn't you be able to sue climate change denying politicians if they actively make laws that further climate change? Like sue on behalf of the planet or something.. or have them charged with criminal negligence for having a hand in actively destroying the planet?[/QUOTE]
I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;51447511]Am I having a stroke what does this mean[/QUOTE]
It means that he'll listen to people telling him its real, but he'll keep on going "Suuuuure, riiiiight!..."
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51447930]I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah sure but I don't think I want humanity to snuff itself out.
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51447521]What are even the advantages/motives behind denying climate change??[/QUOTE]
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basically this
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51447973]Well yeah sure but I don't think I want humanity to snuff itself out.[/QUOTE]
well yeah of course not that's why something needs to be done now
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51447930]I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty firmly of the opinion that humanity is much more important than the Earth because every other life form on the planet doesn't care about anything but perpetuating itself. I think our big MO should be to ultimately completely understand ourselves and the universe, and nothing else on Earth is going to even attempt to do that.
I want to keep Earth healthy and stable because [I]we live on it and probably will for hundreds of years,[/I] not because I think it's more important than ourselves.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51447930]I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.[/QUOTE]
That's great and all but i kind of want to keep on living
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51447930]I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.[/QUOTE]
okay...... what did that have to do with suing politicians who perpetuate the inevitable mass extinction of humanity by denying climate change?
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51447521]What are even the advantages/motives behind denying climate change??[/QUOTE]
Because half of the voting population, mostly the half that usually vote Republican, believe man-made climate change isn't a thing [url]http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/10/04/public-views-on-climate-change-and-climate-scientists/[/url] only one third of Americans believe climate scientists on climate change
If you don't appeal to voters, they won't vote for you. Simple as that
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51447930]I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.[/QUOTE]
earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas
[QUOTE=Llamalord;51447521]What are even the advantages/motives behind denying climate change??[/QUOTE]
Well, Climate change wont exactly make the earth explode, It will just cause catastrophic destruction.
The people who deny climate change tend to be the people making incredible sums of money from the destruction of the planet, Logging companies, Oil companies, bent politicians, that kind of thing.
When the effects of climate change start to hit and the human race begins to suffer, they will have enough cash stockpiled to buy security for themselves and their descendants while the rest of us die.
[QUOTE=Sableye;51447801]i really really can't wait for florida or some major metropolitin area to be washed away by climate change and republicans are forced to answer to their frankly criminal negligence at this point.[/QUOTE]
I hope that they change their minds fast before that. Id rather not lose the family I have in Florida to climate change and flooding because the GOP decided the "heads up our asses" approach would solve it. Hey if we say it isn't real it'll go away right???
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51448120]When the effects of climate change start to hit and the human race begins to suffer, they will have enough cash stockpiled to buy security for themselves and their descendants while the rest of us die.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully things will get so bad that there is no security-- they'll be just as doomed as the rest of us and our descendants will be because of how severe the environmental impacts will be.
And if that doesn't pan out, then hopefully those of us who are left will make every possible effort to ensure that they don't survive either. Hopefully, if not out of justice, people will storm after them for their supplies and "security" and rip them to shreds in the process. We might be doomed, but we will drag them with us. They deserve it.
USA, making America great again by throwing it's next generations into a damaged world they they have to fix.
But hey, it's all okay because at the end of the day we won't be the ones to experience it.
hahaha I hope he does shit like this for the next 4 years just to get people mad
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Ignoring climate change is ignoring the vast fortunes to be made in green energy.
[QUOTE=buckethead64;51448705]hahaha I hope he does shit like this for the next 4 years just to get people mad[/QUOTE]
why
[QUOTE=buckethead64;51448705]hahaha I hope he does shit like this for the next 4 years just to get people mad
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Haha global warming is a joke right haha, it doesn't actually exist and is only there to get people mad haha.
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[QUOTE=Llamalord;51447521]What are even the advantages/motives behind denying climate change??[/QUOTE]
On top of big money, average people themselves simply don't want to believe or are scared by the implications of climate change. So when people in power offer opposing view points, its a way out of that fear for those people.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51447930]I see this quite often and I don't think it's the right attitude in relation of climate change. Our planet is going to be fine. Life will be fine. There have already been five mass extinction events in our planets history, one of which wiped 96% of life on earth. Life recovered and here we are.
Humanities impact on climate change isn't going to doom the planet it's going to kill a shit load of us. Too many people seem to think Earth's history begins and ends with humanity. We'll be dead, but life will go on.[/QUOTE]
By what twisted logic the life on Earth facing one of the once-in-a-100-million-years mass extinctions is "fine"? How do you justify Earth losing upwards 75% of its biodiversity that takes 10 million years, at the very minimum, to recover, to be "fine"? Have you considered that when the next natural extinction event rolls across, life might not have recovered enough genetic fitness to survive that? I seriously think this is "fine". And this all is assuming that indeed the rolling mass extinction magically stops over the next 100 years, which might or might not be the case. Life might not go on.
[QUOTE=June;51447840]Shouldn't you be able to sue climate change denying politicians if they actively make laws that further climate change? Like sue on behalf of the planet or something.. or have them charged with criminal negligence for having a hand in actively destroying the planet?[/QUOTE]
[url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1542218&highlight=]Actually, someone IS already suing the government over climate change denial.[/url]
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51449014]more people are gonna have to start living more sustainable lifestyles if we want to get through this.
Travel less by plane, consume less, eat less beef, and avoid using cars as much as possible.[/QUOTE]
Eliminating plane and car travel doesn't leave many options for Americans. That is 99% of our transportation infrastructure. Rail networks are woefully inadequate, and public transportation is only prevalent in major city centers.
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