SEALS ARE DELICIOUS, SO LET'S KILL AND EAT THEM (Interview)
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[QUOTE=woolio1;43207862]
Of course, we don't eat them for the same reason we don't eat cats or horses. They're cute (or smart, or plotting world domination), and it seems cruel to do so.[/QUOTE]
But we do eat horses
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;43207954]Except that seal hunting is done with rifles, so seals have about as much of a chance of escaping as any other animal.[/QUOTE]
Seals move extremly slow for one unlike other animals that would just run away if they miss the shot. They dont have as good a chance as everyone else. Saying that is just idiotic
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;43209929]Seals move extremly slow for one unlike other animals that would just run away if they miss the shot. They dont have as good a chance as everyone else. Saying that is just idiotic[/QUOTE]
Also seals are super-chill and really don't mind humans that much. I've been within petting-distance of a colony of wild seals, but was told not to actually pet 'em because they could get grumpy if you did touch. Kinda like strippers.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43207982]Let's say there's an overpopulation of deers and not enough carnivores to eat them. Then the already overpopulated deers keep breeding and overpopulate some more. What do deers eat? Delicious greens in their environment. But because there is so much deers, they keep more than the nature can replace these fucking delicious greens, and the ultra fucking delicious greens just disappears. Now the entire population is in trouble because the super mega fucking delicious greens are all gone. That's a problem, hunters fix them.[/QUOTE]
So what about that human overpopulation... :v:
[QUOTE=Talishmar;43210542]So what about that human overpopulation... :v:[/QUOTE]
Break out the clubs...
[B]Kill the weak![/B]
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[QUOTE=Native Hunter;43207917]Its wrong because these Seals have absolutely no chance of escape, unlike deer or most other game while have an actual chance, seals have no chance kf escapeing when a man with a club goes after them.[/QUOTE]
That's an interesting view. I would argue that most animals we kill have no chance of escape, but I'm curious to know why that would even be an issue.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;43210686]That's an interesting view. I would argue that most animals we kill have no chance of escape, but I'm curious to know why that would even be an issue.[/QUOTE]
It's probably a matter of the nature of their death; if it's a bullet straight through the apricot (medulla oblongata) then it's likely quick and painless, but if you repeatedly strike them with sword and hammer or shoot them in a nonlethal area to bleed out, then they're bloody well suffering.
Not only is it a moral thing to ensure your prey passes quickly and without much suffering, but I'm sure the stress of it all has an adverse effect on the flavour or texture of the meat, so it's a "quality of life" thing, although the right term would probably be "quality of death".
What's the difference between shooting a deer or clubbing a seal.
The seal is cute.
that's the damn difference.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43211132]What's the difference between shooting a deer or clubbing a seal.
The seal is cute.
that's the damn difference.[/QUOTE]
not really much of a viking huh?
Seals are like a basket of food that haphazardly worms its way across an iceflow, its the oportunity of a day.
everyone is making a point to say prey should be killed as quickly as possible as to not feel pain, but I believe bow hunting is legal in most places.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;43210542]So what about that human overpopulation... :v:[/QUOTE]
And that is what resource wars are for!
[sp]joke, but sadly true.[/sp]
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;43207092]"So a seal walks into a club" Hurr Hurr[/QUOTE]
I feel like a horrible person for laughing at this now. I hope you're happy!
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43207982]Let's say there's an overpopulation of deers and not enough carnivores to eat them. Then the already overpopulated deers keep breeding and overpopulate some more. What do deers eat? Delicious greens in their environment. But because there is so much deers, they keep more than the nature can replace these fucking delicious greens, and the ultra fucking delicious greens just disappears. Now the entire population is in trouble because the super mega fucking delicious greens are all gone. That's a problem, hunters fix them.[/QUOTE]
What did the planet ever do with itself before people arrived
I swear, this place must have been a hellhole of undisturbed natural environments and balanced ecosystems
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;43207982]Let's say there's an overpopulation of deers and not enough carnivores to eat them. Then the already overpopulated deers keep breeding and overpopulate some more. What do deers eat? Delicious greens in their environment. But because there is so much deers, they keep more than the nature can replace these fucking delicious greens, and the ultra fucking delicious greens just disappears. Now the entire population is in trouble because the super mega fucking delicious greens are all gone. That's a problem, hunters fix them.[/QUOTE]
but, i mean, we, as humanity, do the same thing through a variety of ways. we've turned countless species into whispers, we harvest more resources than we can recover, and blatantly kill our environment. we're at the top of the foodchain, so i guess it's our right to do these things. again, i've got nothing against hunting animals, but i do think the overpopulation argument is a bit shortsighted on an intellectual level.
[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;43213924]but, i mean, we, as humanity, do the same thing through a variety of ways. we've turned countless species into whispers, we harvest more resources than we can recover, and blatantly kill our environment. there isn't any species to keep hunt us due to overpopulation, so i guess it's our right to do these things. again, i've got nothing against hunting animals, but i do think the overpopulation argument is a bit shortsighted on an intellectual level.[/QUOTE]
Think of population as a pendulum. It swings back and forth, rising and falling, never quite reaching equilibrium. That's how it is naturally.
We humans however, have strapped a rocket to our pendulum and now it's flying upward at a ridiculous rate. If it ever swings back because the rocket's been redirected by war or just plain run out of fuel, there will be a huge backlash and a lot of people will die. One way or another.
We've also taken to screwing with other species pendulums. We really are a bunch of psychotic monkeys, aren't we?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43216176]Think of population as a pendulum. It swings back and forth, rising and falling, never quite reaching equilibrium. That's how it is naturally.
We humans however, have strapped a rocket to our pendulum and now it's flying upward at a ridiculous rate. If it ever swings back because the rocket's been redirected by war or just plain run out of fuel, there will be a huge backlash and a lot of people will die. One way or another.
We've also taken to screwing with other species pendulums. We really are a bunch of psychotic monkeys, aren't we?[/QUOTE]
oddly enough, anarcho-primitivists think the day the pendulum will swing back is in 50 years or so. according to the primitivist, between 6-7 billion people will die soon and we will return to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. i personally think they are insane. and you know you have hit true insanity when an anarcho-communist video game nerd is calling you insane.
[QUOTE=Topzombie;43209532]But we do eat horses[/QUOTE]
I don't know what savage debauchery you get up to out there in Germany, but here in America we don't eat horses.
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[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43212739]What did the planet ever do with itself before people arrived
I swear, this place must have been a hellhole of undisturbed natural environments and balanced ecosystems[/QUOTE]
We killed a lot of species that kept others in check, and imported predators to regions where they had no competition.
Over the past couple hundred thousand years, we've done a number on natural ecosystems.
I live in Newfoundland and there has been controversy about the seal hunt for a while. I read in the news today that Pamela Anderson and Sam Simon came here to try and pay off the Canadian sealers association with a million dollar cheque to not do the hunt this year([url]http://www.peta.org/blog/pam-anderson-sam-simon-million-dollar-offer/[/url]). I personally don't care about the seal hunt mainly because its more related to the older generation but it is still part of our heritage. I don't see why so many people make a big deal about it, if they were and endangered species or people were actually killing them inhumanely I could see the problem. Oh and that million dollars equals to about $165 per person in the sealers association.
[QUOTE=dwt110;43206983]why there is such a huge opposition to seal hunting:
[IMG]http://cdn.hdwallpaperspics.com/uploads/2013/01/Baby_Seal.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
on the other hand young seal MORE TENDER
YUM YUM
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;43210686]That's an interesting view. I would argue that most animals we kill have no chance of escape, but I'm curious to know why that would even be an issue.[/QUOTE]
The diffrence is that a deer can smell, see, hear, you and if you miss a shot its gone. Unlike a seal it can only slowly flail away when you either shoot or club it
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;43219066]The diffrence is that a deer can smell, see, hear, you and if you miss a shot its gone. Unlike a seal it can only slowly flail away when you either shoot or club it[/QUOTE]
Don't underestimate the speed or sensory abilities of seals. They're fast little buggers, paranoid too.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43219101]Don't underestimate the speed or sensory abilities of seals. They're fast little buggers, paranoid too.[/QUOTE]
I understand that but most the time its baby seals people go after, Im all for hunting and fishing and shit,mjust not hunting infant animals
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;43219117]I understand that but most the time its baby seals people go after, Im all for hunting and fishing and shit,mjust not hunting infant animals[/QUOTE]
I wasn't under the impression that they specifically target the infants.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43212739]What did the planet ever do with itself before people arrived
I swear, this place must have been a hellhole of undisturbed natural environments and balanced ecosystems[/QUOTE]
I learned the answer to this in 7th grade science
Rabbits become too numerous, wolves eat them and the rabbit population goes down and the wolf population goes up. Lack of rabbits causes wolf population to decline and since there aren't as many wolves, the rabbit population goes up. Repeat this process until humans come and kill all the wolves and rabbits
well if it tastes good, then awesome.
from what i hear seals are pests and are actually pretty mean. and are overpopulated.
fuck not hunting something just because their offspring are fluffy and has little dots that pass as eyebrows you are buying into an animals defense techniques
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;43219117]I understand that but most the time its baby seals people go after, Im all for hunting and fishing and shit,mjust not hunting infant animals[/QUOTE]
And veal is baby cow, you against that too? If the infant and the adult taste different, and perhaps have different furs, they'll both be needed for different clothing and/or foods dishes. As long as the hunt is done sustainably, like any hunt should be, then I don't see why people have such a problem with the seal hunt.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;43206976]what do they taste like[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;43206985]Like meat[/QUOTE]
Like [I]chicken[/I]
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43211132]What's the difference between shooting a deer or clubbing a seal.
The seal is cute.
that's the damn difference.[/QUOTE]
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