Phil Fish could be charged 20,000$ and 20 years in prison for fraud. - Polidicks

[img]http://puu.sh/buceM/e286d07f4c.png[/img] Wow even when he stands accused of racketeering he still acts like a little shit. This guy is a mega cunt.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;45946796][img]http://puu.sh/buceM/e286d07f4c.png[/img] Wow even when he stands accused of racketeering he still acts like a little shit. This guy is a mega cunt.[/QUOTE] how long until he shuts down his account [i]again?[/i]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;45944041]There's a legitimate debate to be had about the topic of #gamergate but it was a small group of 4channers that took the hashtag from something used to refer to the misogyny surrounding the controversy and make it an "anti-corruption" anti-SJW thing. Everyone ran with it, despite the feigned sincerity.[/QUOTE] Yes, because it was totally about misogyny and not outrage at developers and journalists being, quite literally, in bed with each other.

I can smell the smoky boquet of cooked Fish already~

[QUOTE=Zeke129;45943474]oh my god[/QUOTE] this is the problem within the indie community. it has not dawned on them just how big the industry is just because gaming is one the newest of the forms of media, they think nothing really matters and they can get away with stuff because it's 'just gaming'. they are finally having that bubble burst and might realise that the video games industry is just as important and consequential as any other. they might finally realize that doing shady stuff isn't okay just because it's in the context of the gaming industry. ethics applies everywhere and most importantly, the law applies everywhere.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;45946842]how long until he shuts down his account [i]again?[/i][/QUOTE] Perhaps whenever he has another heated discussion with a game journalist.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;45947887]this is the problem within the indie community. it has not dawned on them just how big the industry is just because gaming is one the newest of the forms of media, they think nothing really matters and they can get away with stuff because it's 'just gaming'. they are finally having that bubble burst and might realise that the video games industry is just as important and consequential as any other. they might finally realize that doing shady stuff isn't okay just because it's in the context of the gaming industry. ethics applies everywhere and most importantly, the law applies everywhere.[/QUOTE]This is why the argument "Its just video games" or "Well its always been like that so who cares?" is so crap. This isn't the 1980s or even 1990s.

Isn't it possible that Indie Cade funded other games that were up for nomination those years? And that other studios that had games up for nomination were in the jury? Maybe this kind of stuff happens all over IGF, for all we know.

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[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;45944111]Wow, that's damning! The only way that could be invalidated is if Zoe Quinn edited it to fit her narrative and discredit the opposition. Oh. Hang on. That's exactly what she did. Huh.[/QUOTE] Is there any evidence to this claim? Because I know one of the guys who recorded the logs (it wasn't Quinn, it was a couple of her supporters) and, while I think he's a right cock, I don't think he'd outright falsify them.

Is the article inaccessible for anyone else ?

You are what you eat, Phil was a dick, he'll choke on it now.

I hope he becomes Prison Architect DLC.

all i'll say is phil fish actually makes me self-conscious about my thick sideburns

[QUOTE=Pernoccuous;45952182]all i'll say is phil fish actually makes me self-conscious about my thick sideburns[/QUOTE] Pfft. There are better beards out there. ie: [IMG]http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/zdh_ISiBC-I/mqdefault.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=JtRtheRiPPeR;45952323]Pfft. There are better beards out there. ie: [IMG]http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/zdh_ISiBC-I/mqdefault.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] i have more facial hair than just sideburns, but the sideburns are like the bones of it, they're prominent in the look, and although i keep them trimmed and neat - seeing phil fish makes me want to cover my face in public. also no, i would never personally wear jontron's underchin beard.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;45943781]"Moron" is pretty harsh. But if you can fall this badly for a [url=http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/new-chat-logs-show-how-4chan-users-pushed-gamergate-into-the-national-spotlight/]4chan astroturfing campaign[/url] and actually continue perpetuating it yourself through hyberbole like this thread, it might be accurate.[/QUOTE] I don't think you know what astroturfing is. [I]Oh no, movements [B]start[/B] somewhere! They don't pop up out of the blue with hundreds of people using it right out of the gate! That must mean it's astroturfing[/I]. Astroturfing would be "Hey all you fellow V-going anonymen, man, indie gaming sure is corrupt! Zoe Quinn's game sucks, and Phil Fish is lame-o. In protest, let's all play Call of Duty together! -Totally not Bobby Kotick"

i dont hate phil fish. i dont even dislike him i dont understand you guys. i dont get it at all. he's some dude on the internet why are you so mad. why do you wish 20 years of prison time on him u niggas are fuckin weird

[QUOTE=Rediscover;45953458]i dont hate phil fish. i dont even dislike him i dont understand you guys. i dont get it at all. he's some dude on the internet why are you so mad. why do you wish 20 years of prison time on him u niggas are fuckin weird[/QUOTE] Because humans tend to love it when karma lays a smackdown on someone whos such a massive shitstain.

[QUOTE=Rediscover;45953458]i dont hate phil fish. i dont even dislike him i dont understand you guys. i dont get it at all. he's some dude on the internet why are you so mad. why do you wish 20 years of prison time on him u niggas are fuckin weird[/QUOTE] If you don't despise Fish, it's only because you've not seen enough of him.

[QUOTE=Rediscover;45953458]i dont hate phil fish. i dont even dislike him i dont understand you guys. i dont get it at all. he's some dude on the internet why are you so mad. why do you wish 20 years of prison time on him u niggas are fuckin weird[/QUOTE] it's mostly cause he just got a lot of bad press and well, he was admittedly an asshole, but i mean he wasn't 100% bad, not even like 70%, he just had a lot of issues and pushed them onto the gaming community. most of what he says is understandable, but it's shit we keep inside our heads cause we're fucking humans who work well in society, and that's why it's not okay to say. shit like "suck my dick, choke on it" after getting hated on for ages makes sense in our minds (or at least mine, i mean if i were in that situation i'd be like fuck yeah, screw da haters,) but not to actually say it in front of people's faces because that's how you get labeled an asshole. the thing is, it's kinda joint asshole-ism. he had a lot of hate going towards him, but he also had a lot of positives, and he did make note of that stuff (see indie game: the movie for tycho from penny arcade's reaction to fez) and loved it. but he focused mainly on the bad stuff. in return, the people focus on his bad stuff. not saying he deserved it or anything, because asshole-ism from any side is pretty shitty, but it's just interesting how it kinda worked out like that. also an unrelated note, but i think this (from penny arcade) defines it perfectly [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Greater_Internet_Fuckwad_Theory.png[/t]

I used to consider Fish kind of a jerk -- but somewhat understandably so, and fairly overblown. Then he shouted down someone who admitted to being sexually harassed, for coming out as being sexually harassed. I'm sorry, but no. I cannot write him off as simply misunderstood or a good person made coarse through pressure anymore. There are lines you [i]cannot[/i] come back from after crossing.

[B]Zoe Quinn is now being accused of Charity fraud. [/B] [img]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1360x554q90/661/XEOaXf.jpg[/img] [img]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1012x420q90/540/YuFDb0.png[/img] [img]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/472x742q90/661/LVZKlD.png[/img] Edit: Should I make this it's own separate thread or are you guys #gamergated out?

[QUOTE=JoelDJr;45955234] Should I make this it's own separate thread or are you guys #gamergated out?[/QUOTE] The ride never ends. Go for it.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;45953622]If you don't despise Fish, it's only because you've not seen enough of him.[/QUOTE] Or because I'm not a salty nerd. "Despise" is a strong word.

[QUOTE=JoelDJr;45955234]Edit: Should I make this it's own separate thread or are you guys #gamergated out?[/QUOTE] I say separate thread. This is a big deal and separate from the Fish issue.

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;45953684]also an unrelated note, but i think this (from penny arcade) defines it perfectly [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Greater_Internet_Fuckwad_Theory.png[/t][/QUOTE] But then Facebook came along and reminded everyone that people don't need anonymity to be massive cocks.

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;45946796][img]http://puu.sh/buceM/e286d07f4c.png[/img] Wow even when he stands accused of racketeering he still acts like a little shit. This guy is a mega cunt.[/QUOTE] imagine actually supporting this douchenut imagine living in a strait jacket

[QUOTE=T-Sonar.0;45946796][img]http://puu.sh/buceM/e286d07f4c.png[/img] Wow even when he stands accused of racketeering he still acts like a little shit. This guy is a mega cunt.[/QUOTE] That's not him. The I in that username is a lowercase L.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;45947887]this is the problem within the indie community. it has not dawned on them just how big the industry is just because gaming is one the newest of the forms of media, they think nothing really matters and they can get away with stuff because it's 'just gaming'. they are finally having that bubble burst and might realise that the video games industry is just as important and consequential as any other. they might finally realize that doing shady stuff isn't okay just because it's in the context of the gaming industry. ethics applies everywhere and most importantly, the law applies everywhere.[/QUOTE] Surely you of all people can see how the accusation does not even fit the definition of fraud let alone racketeering or any other illegal activity. Besides, you're just trying to drum up support for your own game review site! That's racketeering! Or something. 20 years. Take him away. Should I make the thread now about how a facepunch moderator could go to prison for 20 years? [editline]11th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Swiket;45957343]That's not him. The I in that username is a lowercase L.[/QUOTE] The failure to fact check train leaves the second station