15 Years Later: New Scientific Paper in Reputable Physics Journal Argues 9/11 Was An Inside Job - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Drury;51048204]Quite obviously, government agents pouring molten thermite all over the supports to make them melt and collapse. How could we have been so blind.[/QUOTE] Totally not hot embers from the fire either /s.

Wow, an actual 9/11 truther on Facepunch. Now we just need a flat Earth conspiracist and a moon-landings-were-faked theorist to complete the Holy Tinfoil Trinity.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51048202]No god damn shit they were strong, are you forgetting how massive they were?[/QUOTE] You basically said that the weight of the planes is virtually irrelevant because they are "fucking heavy", there's a big difference between 400 tons and 200 tons, which is the max weight of those planes. WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, just some debris from 1 WTC, and fires which in no way could possibly cause it to collapse the way it did

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048197]I post a video from 9/11 and ask a question about what I'm seeing. I'm so arrogant. Forgive me.[/QUOTE] You're seeing a building hollow out from an intense fire, the roof caving in, windows bursting from the pressure, the upper part of the building collapse and then the rest of the building giving way.

[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;51048220]Totally not hot embers from the fire either /s.[/QUOTE] I read it was designed to withstand a plane impact, but nowhere could I find how long it could withstand such fire burning unbattled.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51048145]I've always thought of the 9/11 conspiracy theories as the left's equivalent of the right's birther crowd.[/QUOTE] I've met just as many 9/11 truthers that identify as liberals as they do conservatives. They are both insane conspiracies but I don't think it's entirely owned by the left like birthers are by the right.

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048224]You basically said that the weight of the planes is virtually irrelevant because they are "fucking heavy", there's a big difference between 400 tons and 200 tons, which is the max weight of those planes.[/QUOTE] Uh... the Boeing 747 has a maximum weight of 450 tons. [QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048224]WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, just some debris from 1 WTC, and fires which in no way could possibly cause it to collapse the way it did[/QUOTE] Heat. Weakens. Structural. Integrity. Then the penthouse fell through the middle. Causing the building to buckle and collapse as the structural support was fatally shot from the top down. [editline]d[/editline] Like have you ever watched ice melt into water?

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51047948]War = Profit for defense contractors and arms manufacturers and anyone selling anything that could be used in a war from toilet paper to bombs. Larry Silverstein also profited billions from the tower's demise. [B]He also admitted to pulling WTC 7 in an interview[/B].[/QUOTE] He told the fire department to "pull it" in the context of pulling the rescue operation so that firefighters would stop wasting time and risking their lives trying to save a building that had its insides scooped out like ice cream by falling debris from what I think is the world's largest structure collapse in history?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51048228]I've met just as many 9/11 truthers that identify as liberals as they do conservatives. They are both insane conspiracies but I don't think it's entirely owned by the left like birthers are by the right.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the right has a monopoly on the birther thing, but I think 9/11 truthers can fall on either side of the spectrum, just like the whole FEMA death camp thing.

[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;51048214]If you watch the video at a point really close to the collapse, and go back to the beginning, it seems like the building was ever so subtly bulging outwards as well. When it collapses, you can even see the rest of the structure go as well. If anything, this video showed it collapsed like any building with hundreds of gallon of jet fuel burning inside of it should.[/QUOTE] Have you tried googling the answer to your claim before posting it? It would take a couple of seconds at most and would probably save more time than actually posting it here and waiting for a response. The bulging could be due to distortions within the camera lens.

Hey science man, i've got another question, why was there liquid metal and molten concrete in the rubble for months after the "collapse". Just curious. oh and thanks for clearing up that very sparky wire for all of us, we were very alarmed at first there.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51048223]Wow, an actual 9/11 truther on Facepunch. Now we just need a flat Earth conspiracist and a moon-landings-were-faked theorist to complete the Holy Tinfoil Trinity.[/QUOTE] We had a flat earth truther a couple weeks back. Was pretty funny

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048199]in that case, the WTC towers are very fucking strong, designed to withstand a plane impact (possibly multiple) of slightly less weight and speed. aswell as hurricanes.[/QUOTE] They were designed to possibly resist an empty airliner cruising in a circle at 150 knots, you know, the most likely situation of a plane impact. No architect on God's green Earth can make a building that can withstand a fully loaded airliner moving at the speed of sound. But you're an architect apparently, enlighten me.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51048234]Uh... the Boeing 747 has a maximum weight of 450 tons. Heat. Weakens. Structural. Integrity. Then the penthouse fell through the middle. Causing the building to buckle and collapse as the structural support was fatally shot from the top down. [editline]d[/editline] Like have you ever watched ice melt into water?[/QUOTE] it wasn't 747s that hit the towers, it was 767s.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048147] Hey, I'm just curious. What does this look like to you?[/QUOTE] Speaking purely as a layman it looks exactly like the official explanation. Seeing the building bulge and crumple like that lends credence to the idea that the steel just got too hot; if it were caused do demolition I would expect an instantaneous reaction.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51048228]I've met just as many 9/11 truthers that identify as liberals as they do conservatives. They are both insane conspiracies but I don't think it's entirely owned by the left like birthers are by the right.[/QUOTE] The Alex Jones crowd is the only right associated group that might go with the 9/11 truther stuff, but they are only marginally part of the greater right. The 9/11 truther movement is most definitely associated with the left. At one point there were polls showing that around half of all democrats thought the government were either part of the attack or knew and did nothing on purpose. ([URL]http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2011/04/more-than-half-of-democrats-believed-bush-knew-035224[/URL]) There seems to be a rule that ~20% of either side will believe just about anything if it goes against the other side. Ironically enough, the birther movment was started by the Clinton campaign in 2008. ([url]http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563[/url])

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048240]Hey science man, i've got another question, why was there liquid metal and molten concrete in the rubble for months after the "collapse". Just curious.[/QUOTE] Source on that because thats impossible. [QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048240]oh and thanks for clearing up that very sparky wire for all of us, we were very alarmed at first there.[/QUOTE] You mean pointing out how your bullshit was bullshit? No problem.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048240]Hey science man, i've got another question, why was there liquid metal and molten concrete in the rubble for months after the "collapse". Just curious. oh and thanks for clearing up that very sparky wire for all of us, we were very alarmed at first there.[/QUOTE] So we managed to debunk your insurance nonsense so now you're just going to try and run circles on Buidling 7 and whenever anyone hits you with a counter point, you're just going to jump to the next conspiracy theory until everyone gets tired of responding to your drivel. At which point you're going to proclaim victory to yourself and continue to spread your craziness to other people.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048240]Hey science man, i've got another question, why was there liquid metal and molten concrete in the rubble for months after the "collapse". Just curious. oh and thanks for clearing up that very sparky wire for all of us, we were very alarmed at first there.[/QUOTE] Why are you being so condescending? You seem to be admitting that Aaron probably knows more about the science involved than you do by calling him "science man", doesn't that mean you should listen to him because he probably knows more about it than you do? You guys have been wrong on so many things, is there no possibility at all that you might be wrong about this too? Please tell me that you can at least consider the possibility that you're incorrect.

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048247]it wasn't 747s that hit the towers, it was 767s.[/QUOTE] Alright, i apologize, i was just doing a quick search to see how much a plane like that could weigh. So yes, 200 tons. Im so sorry. a 200 ton slab of metal shot through a building and ignited its fuel source which weakened the already damaged structure. You're still wrong.

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048224]You basically said that the weight of the planes is virtually irrelevant because they are "fucking heavy", there's a big difference between 400 tons and 200 tons, which is the max weight of those planes. WTC 7 was not hit by a plane, just some debris from 1 WTC, and fires which in no way could possibly cause it to collapse the way it did[/QUOTE] The rear side of WTC 7: [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtqVIc0cJmQ[/media] Some debris was an understatement, it was a shit-ton. Not to mention they left the fires to burn by themselves for hours with no fire fighters to battle it, causing it to collapse around 5PM. The sheer loss of the fire fighters, and the priority to find survivors in the collapsed towers took priority over saving a building which was already evacuated and empty.

Like I said in a previous thread, the amount of people you'd need to keep quiet is impossibly large give how incompetent the governments of the world are.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51048259]Alright, i apologize, i was just doing a quick search to see how much a plane like that could weigh. So yes, 200 tons. Im so sorry. a 200 ton slab of metal shot through a building and ignited its fuel source which weakened the already damaged structure. You're still wrong.[/QUOTE] ok and why am I wrong?

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048147]Let us not tolerate any outrageous conspiracy theories! you are either with us or you are with the terrorists! Hey, I'm just curious. What does this look like to you? [video=youtube;SD2DBUJl0OM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD2DBUJl0OM[/video][/QUOTE] [url]http://911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html[/url] [quote]Again, ordinary fuels with a little plastic, and the right conditions, yielded high temperatures. And this applied even to the steel itself, where the maximum temperature record in four tests proved to be 1220, 1301, 1245 and 1196 °C (that’s a peak of 2372 °F).[/quote] also [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZ-nkYr46w[/media] There's no way to know for certain what that seemingly molten dripping is coming from, but Occam's Razor tells me it's probably a freak flare up of something that was super heated. If it was thermite, I feel like you'd see a lot more, and not just in one place.

[QUOTE=Zyler;51048255]Why are you being so condescending? You seem to be admitting that Aaron probably knows more about the science involved than you do by calling him "science man", doesn't that mean you should listen to him because he probably knows more about it than you do?[/QUOTE] All he's been is condescending to me since the beginning of the thread, but nevermind that, just focus on making me look like a crazy asshole. [video=youtube;uTzBbhShJQo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzBbhShJQo[/video] This is pointless anyway, goodbye.

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048265]ok and why am I wrong?[/QUOTE] Because. [b]A FUCKING PASSENGER SIZED AIRPLANE.[/b] Shot through a building. [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048270]All he's been is condescending to me since the beginning of the thread, but nevermind that, just focus on making me look like a crazy asshole.[/QUOTE] Because you're BEING a crazy asshole, im literally explaining the science to you and you're scoffing at me. Im condescending you because you refuse to listen. You're being a child. So of course im going to talk down to you when you act like a child.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048270]All he's been is condescending to me since the beginning of the thread, but nevermind that, just focus on making me look like a crazy asshole. [video=youtube;uTzBbhShJQo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzBbhShJQo[/video] This is pointless anyway, goodbye.[/QUOTE] Well, you've come into this thread from the beginning and acting like a condescending prick, maybe treat other people better before you expect them to do the same. Alright, bye.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51048271]Because. [b]A FUCKING PASSENGER SIZED AIRPLANE.[/b] Shot through a building. [editline]14th September 2016[/editline] Because you're BEING a crazy asshole, im literally explaining the science to you and you're scoffing at me.[/QUOTE] You can't prove those buildings were really there.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048270] This is pointless anyway, goodbye.[/QUOTE] All that time finding that article that debunks all your questions and you didn't even read it. :cry:

[QUOTE=OvB;51048282]All that time finding that article that debunks all your questions and you didn't even read it. :cry:[/QUOTE] Read something that goes against my preconceived notions? Holy shit you're an asshole. [sp]Don't ban me its a joke[/sp]