15 Years Later: New Scientific Paper in Reputable Physics Journal Argues 9/11 Was An Inside Job - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048270]This is pointless anyway, goodbye.[/QUOTE] "I lost the argument and I refuse to believe that I'm a fucking loon."

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[QUOTE=abcpea;51048278]You can't prove those buildings were really there.[/QUOTE] They were holograms obviously, the US government created the illusion of the twin towers and the planes and all of the people who ever supposedly entered the building were working for the government. It makes more sense than the controlled demolition theory because the government wouldn't need to destroy their own property and Silverstein wouldn't have taken a loss due to the tower's collapse (the insurance documents were obviously falsified, as a jewish business mogul silverstein was obviously working for the government too). All of the people who supposedly 'died' in the attack are just sitting on a beach in the bahamas right now on a paid vacation. Prove me wrong, I dare you.

[QUOTE=Zyler;51048238]Have you tried googling the answer to your claim before posting it? It would take a couple of seconds at most and would probably save more time than actually posting it here and waiting for a response. The bulging could be due to distortions within the camera lens.[/QUOTE] I'm on your side dude. No crazy conspiracy crap. I'm just saying it looked like the building was slowly buckling after a while. For all we know, it could have been distortion. No reason to be so hostile, chill.

[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;51048291]We had a flat earth truther a couple weeks back. Was pretty funny[/QUOTE] Yeah he dropped a link to the flat earth society and bounced, in that 6 hour doc thread.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048270]All he's been is condescending to me since the beginning of the thread, but nevermind that, just focus on making me look like a crazy asshole. This is pointless anyway, goodbye.[/QUOTE] I won't be a condescending ass to you because I used to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist too, but you really should check out this guy's channel (and this video specifically): [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHzMttUKO0[/media] imo it's very easy to believe 9/11 theories because not only are we naturally inclined to believe interesting and fantastical things, but a lot of the theories [I]are really convincing[/I], and when 90% of people's opposition is based on naive predicates like "b-but why government hurt p-people? that no make sense?", it's easy to assume that anyone who doesn't believe in 9/11 theories are just naive, sheltered, unwilling to see the truth, etc. In reality though I've yet to see any 9/11 theory that hasn't been adequately debunked, and in recent years as more and more information has come out (specifically about the Saudi Arabia link), the official story just makes sense.

[QUOTE=Zyler;51048292]They were holograms obviously, the US government created the illusion of the twin towers and the planes and all of the people who ever supposedly entered the building were working for the government. It makes more sense than the controlled demolition theory because the government wouldn't need to destroy their own property and Silverstein wouldn't have taken a loss due to the tower's collapse (the insurance documents were obviously falsified). All of the people who supposedly 'died' in the attack are just sitting on a beach in the bahamas on a paid vacation. Prove me wrong, I dare you.[/QUOTE] When he said "pull it" me meant pull power to the holographic projector holy shit:tinfoil:

[QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;51048242]We had a flat earth truther a couple weeks back. Was pretty funny[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dantz Bolrew;51048291]We had a flat earth truther a couple weeks back. Was pretty funny[/QUOTE] hey are you okay

[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;51048261]The rear side of WTC 7: Some debris was an understatement, it was a shit-ton. Not to mention they left the fires to burn by themselves for hours with no fire fighters to battle it, causing it to collapse around 5PM. The sheer loss of the fire fighters, and the priority to find survivors in the collapsed towers took priority over saving a building which was already evacuated and empty.[/QUOTE] Yes I seen the damage on back of WTC 7, that cannot cause all columns to syncronously fail. Deutsche Bank was also damaged, not sure if there were fires inside though. [url]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/FEMA_-_4019_-_Photograph_by_Michael_Rieger_taken_on_09-21-2001_in_New_York.jpg[/url] And the character assasination I mentioned is underway, compared to flat earthers, fake moon landing, lizard people, holograms instead of actual responses.

[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;51048293]I'm on your side dude. No crazy conspiracy crap. I'm just saying it looked like the building was slowly buckling after a while. For all we know, it could have been distortion. No reason to be so hostile, chill.[/QUOTE] I didn't intend to come across as hostile when I wrote that post, sorry about that.

[QUOTE=Combin0wnage;51048293]I'm on your side dude. No crazy conspiracy crap. I'm just saying it looked like the building was slowly buckling after a while. For all we know, it could have been distortion. No reason to be so hostile, chill.[/QUOTE] The buildings were actually bending inward, as the structural frames started to buckle in from the weight of the floors pulling it in. (see video i posted above)

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048310]Yes I seen the damage on back of WTC 7, that cannot cause all columns to syncronously fail.[/QUOTE] A penthouse falling through the middle would do the trick enough. Cause a chain reaction.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51048309]hey are you okay[/QUOTE] Sorry, page was still open and I thought I didn't post it. Just a glitch in the matrix. Morpheus did 9-11

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048310]Yes I seen the damage on back of WTC 7, that cannot cause all columns to syncronously fail. Deutsche Bank was also damaged, not sure if there were fires inside though. [url]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/FEMA_-_4019_-_Photograph_by_Michael_Rieger_taken_on_09-21-2001_in_New_York.jpg[/url] And the character assasination I mentioned is underway, compared to flat earthers, fake moon landing, lizard people, holograms instead of actual responses.[/QUOTE] ever think that maybe the jews are controlling YOUR mind?

[QUOTE=Zyler;51048311]I didn't intend to come across as hostile when I wrote that post, sorry about that.[/QUOTE] No worries dude, it's cool.

[QUOTE=Techno-Man;51048310] And the character assasination I mentioned is underway, compared to flat earthers, fake moon landing, lizard people, holograms instead of actual responses.[/QUOTE] 9/11 truthers are on par with the Moon Landing truthers, yes.

[QUOTE=OvB;51048312]The buildings were actually bending inward, as the structural frames started to buckle in from the weight of the floors pulling it in. (see video i posted above)[/QUOTE] Thanks, the video was very interesting. Hopefully people have used the Twin Tower collapse as an example for reinforcing giant skyscrapers.

[QUOTE=srobins;51048302]I won't be a condescending ass to you because I used to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist too, but you really should check out this guy's channel (and this video specifically): [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHzMttUKO0[/media] imo it's very easy to believe 9/11 theories because not only are we naturally inclined to believe interesting and fantastical things, but a lot of the theories [I]are really convincing[/I], and when 90% of people's opposition is based on naive predicates like "b-but why government hurt p-people? that no make sense?", it's easy to assume that anyone who doesn't believe in 9/11 theories are just naive, sheltered, unwilling to see the truth, etc. In reality though I've yet to see any 9/11 theory that hasn't been adequately debunked, and in recent years as more and more information has come out (specifically about the Saudi Arabia link), the official story just makes sense.[/QUOTE] It's very easy to reach conclusions like that when you become immersed in an echo chamber of similar opinions to your own, like many of the online forums for conspiracy theorists that exist. All echo chambers like that tend to pick and choose whatever information suits their stated agenda, including picking only the lowest hanging fruit of the perceived opposition in order to bolster the beliefs of members.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51048340]9/11 truthers are on par with the Moon Landing truthers, yes.[/QUOTE] From a scale of Moon Landing Truther to Lizard People, how crazy is your conspiracy theory? Big thanks to all the 9/11 truthers in the thread, by the way, next time a fuckin moron attemps to argue that it was an inside job, I just have to look at all the wonderful responses in this thread to knock em down a peg (if they listen to logic, of course)

This isn't even a debate, your just condescending people then going "LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" when they bring up evidence

Oh yeah, and the paper also cites one of the authors previous articles about the same thing: [img]http://puu.sh/raEpN/dfe29371d3.png[/img]

[QUOTE=OvB;51048282]All that time finding that article that debunks all your questions and you didn't even read it. :cry:[/QUOTE] I read it, and I don't see how it "debunks" anything. Did I miss something? Isn't it just saying that there are no reliable sources and that bed springs and shit can partially melt? [editline]13th September 2016[/editline] Remember that news segment, i think it was CNN, where they were gawking at the "meteoroid"? was supposedly a huge fused mass of molten concrete and had a revolver embedded into it?

[QUOTE=Magikoopa24;51048351]From a scale of Moon Landing Truther to Lizard People, how crazy is your conspiracy theory? Big thanks to all the 9/11 truthers in the thread, by the way, next time a fuckin moron attemps to argue that it was an inside job, I just have to look at all the wonderful responses in this thread to knock em down a peg (if they listen to logic, of course)[/QUOTE] I brought up how the thermite theory was BS, and he pointed at a blurry picture of apparent molten thermite. I pointed out it could have been really hot embers, or some result of fires that were burning underneath the rubble. He just shrugged his shoulders and said, "It's here in the picture". There is no arguing with them, you will always lose, or they will insult your political beliefs, family, or your appearance. I see them standing on the corner around 9/11, and I just ignore them. No reason to put yourself through that annoyance.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048372]I read it, and I don't see how it "debunks" anything. Did I miss something? Isn't it just saying that there are no reliable sources and that bed springs and shit can partially melt?[/QUOTE] There needs to be reliable sources for something to be true, if there is no evidence for something then we cannot prove that it is true- so we assume that it is false until it is proven otherwise. Otherwise, what's wrong with my hologram theory? [QUOTE=Zyler;51048292]They were holograms obviously, the US government created the illusion of the twin towers and the planes and all of the people who ever supposedly entered the building were working for the government. It makes more sense than the controlled demolition theory because the government wouldn't need to destroy their own property and Silverstein wouldn't have taken a loss due to the tower's collapse (the insurance documents were obviously falsified, as a jewish business mogul silverstein was obviously working for the government too). All of the people who supposedly 'died' in the attack are just sitting on a beach in the bahamas right now on a paid vacation. Prove me wrong, I dare you.[/QUOTE] If no sources are required for you to believe something is true, then you must believe my hologram theory.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048372] Remember that news segment, i think it was CNN, where they were gawking at the "meteoroid"? was supposedly a huge fused mass of molten concrete and had a revolver embedded into it?[/QUOTE] Never heard of it.

[QUOTE=OvB;51048382]Never heard of it.[/QUOTE] sorry for shit quality, this is the only one i can find for now, it appears in higher definition in a lot of documentaries, i could do some more digging if you would like. [video=youtube;1WWAnCd_6lg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WWAnCd_6lg[/video] go to 1:20 of the below video [video=youtube;8YaFGSPErKU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU[/video]

[QUOTE=abcpea;51048278]You can't prove those buildings were really there.[/QUOTE] I've walked in both buildings. They were there. [quote] Why [/quote] Blame. It's like living in a world without god. After being religious for your entire life. No safety net, no guaranteed get out of utter death card. The American way of life can't be altered forever by 40 muslims who've discovered an utterly unchecked and simple way to cause horrific amounts of death, it has to be an insidious pervasive milieu of ultimate power brokers determined to keep the world under their thumb. America can't be humbled by farmers and high school dropouts, it has to be evil supervillain engineers paid in raw gold bullion, because a world where 40 angry people can bring a nation to a standstill is a world where anybody can die at any time by simply being unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Also you get to be in the secret club of crusading good guys, whom save the world by sitting on your ass spouting echo chamber opinions, which much like outraged tumblry people is a pretty sweet gig that you don't actually have to put any time or effort into. The really sad thing is there are plenty of real conspiracies where people collude and screw shit up for everybody all the time, but since most of them are political or monetary in nature, apparently they aren't worth anyone's time. I mean we just had the DNC selection committee openly and blatantly collude to fuck over everyone in the race except Hilary, and nary a peep from truthers. That's actually how you know they're full of shit. Also hey look, a Flameon thread. Quel surprise.

[QUOTE=srobins;51048302]I won't be a condescending ass to you because I used to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist too, but you really should check out this guy's channel (and this video specifically): [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHzMttUKO0[/media] imo it's very easy to believe 9/11 theories because not only are we naturally inclined to believe interesting and fantastical things, but a lot of the theories [I]are really convincing[/I], and when 90% of people's opposition is based on naive predicates like "b-but why government hurt p-people? that no make sense?", it's easy to assume that anyone who doesn't believe in 9/11 theories are just naive, sheltered, unwilling to see the truth, etc. In reality though I've yet to see any 9/11 theory that hasn't been adequately debunked, and in recent years as more and more information has come out (specifically about the Saudi Arabia link), the official story just makes sense.[/QUOTE] This video is actually a much better explanation for the molten mess.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048397]sorry for shit quality, this is the only one i can find for now, it appears in higher definition in a lot of documentaries, i could do some more digging if you would like.[/QUOTE] What evidence is there that it's actually steel rather than aluminum and various other metals? Any laymen would naturally call it "steel", but that doesn't necessarily mean it actually is steel.

[QUOTE=Barbarian887;51048397]sorry for shit quality, this is the only one i can find for now, it appears in higher definition in a lot of documentaries, i could do some more digging if you would like. [video=youtube;1WWAnCd_6lg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WWAnCd_6lg[/video] go to 1:20 of the below video [video=youtube;8YaFGSPErKU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YaFGSPErKU[/video][/QUOTE] Amazing sources from accredited scholars like "Investigate and Expose 9/11"