Ron Paul supporters put dent in unity at GOP convention - Polidicks

[QUOTE=barttool;37462978]The difference between Ron Paul and the other republicans is that I may not agree with his policies (and in fact think many of them are batshit insane), at least he is a decent, thoughtful, respectful man. Unlike the rest of the GOP clowns that can't wait another day to say another bigoted atrocity (and their policy is even more batshit insane)[/QUOTE] Yo, Ron Paul is a racist asshole.

[QUOTE=sp00ks;37469614]Yo, Ron Paul is a racist asshole.[/QUOTE] Not this again, how is Ron Paul racist?

[QUOTE=NonCorporeal;37469707]Not this again, how is Ron Paul racist?[/QUOTE]Other than the news letters that he pretended to not be aware of before it was leaked that he was deeply involved in them. Or his close relationship to White Supremacist groups? Or his calls for the abolishment of Civil Rights legislation?

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;37469747]Other than the news letters that he pretended to not be aware of before it was leaked that he was deeply involved in them. Or his close relationship to White Supremacist groups? Or his calls for the abolishment of Civil Rights legislation?[/QUOTE] Ron Paul has ties with white supremecist groups? Since when? He doesn't oppose civil rights, he opposes the provisions that required people leasing shared houses (basically anyone who requested roommate), to not be able to deny minorities rights to live in their own homes. Even Barry Goldwater opposed the bill on that premise. What next? Are you going to call Barry Goldwater a racist too?

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;37469260]As a Ron Paul supporter, I am becoming increasingly disappointed with the behavior of some members of the liberty movement. We need to be more civil and willing to compromise politically with the RNC if we want to see our ideas become part of the national conversation. We need to moderate the radicals and get the libertarians out of the Libertarian party. Rebellious behavior like what happened at the convention doesn't legitimize us and creates hostility with the establishment.[/QUOTE] Our rebellious behavior isn't out of the blue, it's because the establishment already has a great deal of hostility toward us.

[QUOTE=Florence;37469444]"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis[/QUOTE] are we really going to act like just restating the definition of fascism but only narrowly applied to america is something profound you can't have fascism without nationalism

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37472633]Our rebellious behavior isn't out of the blue, it's because the establishment already has a great deal of hostility toward us.[/QUOTE] We have received a of trouble and hostility from the GOP establishment. But responding in such a manner only stokes the flames. Ever since the state conventions and the election of Republicans like Ted Cruz and Justin Amash, its safe to say that the Liberty faction is once again a force to be reckoned with in the party. Now is the time to be civil and coalesce, not start ideological wars within the party.

[QUOTE=Swilly;37469293]Honestly, its not a surprise that both sides are getting more and more fragmented. Its a just a mirror of how angry, afraid and confused the American public is. Everyone who watches C-Span knows exactly what our government is doing but who watches it? Almost no one so there is a massive distrust in what our government does. The amount of distrust is completely unhealthy as we're now having people commit horrible acts from the vitriol being spewed by both sides. People have forgotten that freedom of speech comes with consequences and hiding behind it doesn't change the fact that your words influenced them to act. If anything, our nation as a whole needs to stop, smoke a joint, relax and rethink what we're doing. Its also scary to think that a political body that is heavily religious, racist, uncompromising and getting more and more violent has become a major political player in our government. I mean of course the Tea Party.[/QUOTE] Breaking up your two party "democracy" is a very good thing.

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;37472907]We have received a of trouble and hostility from the GOP establishment. But responding in such a manner only stokes the flames. Ever since the state conventions and the election of Republicans like Ted Cruz and Justin Amash, its safe to say that the Liberty faction is once again a force to be reckoned with in the party. Now is the time to be civil and coalesce, not start ideological wars within the party.[/QUOTE] I think forcing us out of many state conventions after they got wind of what Paul supporters were doing, ending the roll call just because Paul was getting cheers at the convention and not even sitting the Maine delegates calls for a bit of a ruckus and protest. I share no views with the typical GOP party bigwig. And people create conflict when there's no shared traits. Cruz and Amash are good, but personally, I would prefer if all true GOP Libertarians took their votes, affiliation and money to the LP. Then let the neocon GOP wither away.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37473016]I think forcing us out of many state conventions after they got wind of what Paul supporters were doing, ending the roll call just because Paul was getting cheers at the convention and not even sitting the Maine delegates calls for a bit of a ruckus and protest. I share no views with the typical GOP party bigwig. And people create conflict when there's no shared traits. Cruz and Amash are good, but personally, I would prefer if all true GOP Libertarians took their votes, affiliation and money to the LP. Then let the neocon GOP wither away.[/QUOTE] The GOP is here to stay whether we like it or not. And the LP will never amount to any reasonable influence in the political world, whether we like it or not. Several of the GOPs state branches (like in Iowa and Nevada) have been completely taken over by Ron Paul supporters. We might as well concentrate the libertarian vote in a place where 1) We can make a difference (Auditing the fed has become part of the GOP platform because of Paulites) and 2) Gain influential political allies that we can coalesce with on some issues. We need the GOP as much as it needs libertarians.

[QUOTE=Derubermensch;37473081]The GOP is here to stay whether we like it or not. And the LP will never amount to any reasonable influence in the political world, whether we like it or not. Several of the GOPs state branches (like in Iowa and Nevada) have been completely taken over by Ron Paul supporters. We might as well concentrate the libertarian vote in a place where 1) We can make a difference (Auditing the fed has become part of the GOP platform because of Paulites) and 2) Gain influential political allies that we can coalesce with on some issues. We need the GOP as much as it needs libertarians.[/QUOTE] I just hate the thought of sharing a party with the neocons. So much that I reregistered as Independent. Or "unaffiliated" as it's called now.

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[QUOTE=Killuah;37472979]Breaking up your two party "democracy" is a very good thing.[/QUOTE] Yes, yes it would be.

[QUOTE=download;37462903]Of all the Republican candidate, I thought Ron Paul was the most honest and trustworthy, even if his views were loony. His supporters on the other hand....[/QUOTE] He lacks that sort of two faced quality that Romney exudes.