Arizona Governor doesn't want it's own lawyers to defend her - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Relys;22247467] So, sure I can see this law being abused. But this is a boarder state we're talking about. Obviously the boarder control is lacking and something has to be done. I encourage you to provide a better solution.[/QUOTE] So violating the constitution is fine as long as the situation is [i]really[/i] bad How many bad situation units on the Relys scale do we need before we can violate civil rights [editline]09:47PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248156] Whether it's a victimless crime or not is irrelevant, they are illegal.[/QUOTE] Sodomy is still illegal in some states should that be enforced too

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248163]So violating the constitution is fine as long as the situation is [i]really[/i] bad How many bad situation units on the Relys scale do we need before we can violate civil rights [editline]09:47PM[/editline] Sodomy is still illegal in some states should that be enforced too[/QUOTE] fuck it, open the borders :downs: [editline]nigger[/editline] but block google ads first

[QUOTE=cccritical;22248217]fuck it, open the borders :downs:[/QUOTE] yeah that's exactly what I said good show

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248163]So violating the constitution is fine as long as the situation is [I]really[/I] bad How many bad situation units on the Relys scale do we need before we can violate civil rights [editline]09:47PM[/editline] Sodomy is still illegal in some states should that be enforced too[/QUOTE] Illegal is illegal, all we can do is push to get it legalized

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22248064]ITT: BURN THE CONSTITUTION AND TEAR DOWN THE STATUE OF LIBERTY No one seems to pay attention to either on a certain side of the argument, and is HAPPY to violate rights. Do you understand this? You're fucking HAPPY you're violating a humans rights. And for what? Their is no soaring crime rate from illegals, there is no such thing as stealing a job, you just can't handle another race in your country.[/QUOTE] Thankfully all those illegal immigrants are paying their taxes and supporting our nation.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248263]Illegal is illegal, all we can do is push to get it legalized[/QUOTE] This just in: Gummylamb suggests imprisoning homosexuals because an old unconstitutional law says it's okay to do so

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248282]This just in: Gummylamb suggests imprisoning homosexuals because an old unconstitutional law says it's okay to do so[/QUOTE] Yes, that's exactly what I said.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22248064]ITT: BURN THE CONSTITUTION AND TEAR DOWN THE STATUE OF LIBERTY No one seems to pay attention to either on a certain side of the argument, and is HAPPY to violate rights. Do you understand this? You're fucking HAPPY you're violating a humans rights. And for what? Their is no soaring crime rate from illegals, there is no such thing as stealing a job, you just can't handle another race in your country.[/QUOTE] It's not violating "human rights" (which is an extremely new and radical philosophy in society which has many different view points). What I don't want to handle is people who come into our country without paying any attention or respect to our laws and do not pay any taxes.

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[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248294]Yes, that's exactly what I said.[/QUOTE] It actually is. I said that sodomy is illegal in some states due to old laws. You said that "illegal is illegal". Earlier, you said that illegal acts must be punishable because they're illegal.

[QUOTE=cornndog;22248265]Thankfully all those illegal immigrants are paying their taxes and supporting our nation.[/QUOTE] I read somewhere they actually put in more than they take from the system.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248323]It actually is. I said that sodomy is illegal in some states due to old laws. You said that "illegal is illegal". Earlier, you said that illegal acts must be punishable because they're illegal.[/QUOTE] I don't see how it's hard for you to grasp that illegal things are against the rules, whether it makes sense or not. Also, I doubt anyone can/will punish people for the sodomy law.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;22248356]I read somewhere they actually put in more than they take from the system.[/QUOTE] Ok, it's all cool then.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;22248356]I read somewhere they actually put in more than they take from the system.[/QUOTE] Can you get me a reliable source on that?

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248387]I don't see how it's hard for you to grasp that illegal things are against the rules, whether it makes sense or not.[/QUOTE] Because some laws are oppressive and [b]illegal[/b]. Why can YOU not grasp this? Your authoritarianism is tiring.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248387]I don't see how it's hard for you to grasp that illegal things are against the rules, whether it makes sense or not. Also, I doubt anyone can/will punish people for the sodomy law.[/QUOTE] well just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's enforced.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248413]Because some laws are oppressive and [b]illegal[/b]. Why can YOU not grasp this? Your authoritarianism is tiring.[/QUOTE] Open gun restrictions! Sell alcohol starting at age 12! Legalize heroin and cocaine!

Basically, you think illegal immigration is oppressive

[QUOTE=Lambeth;22248420]well just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's enforced.[/QUOTE] just because it's illegal doesn't mean we should enforce it :2bong:

[QUOTE=cccritical;22248445]Open gun restrictions! Sell alcohol starting at age 12! Legalize heroin and cocaine![/QUOTE] Banning things only makes them more common either way, but legalization is a different argument.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248451]Basically, you think illegal immigration is oppressive[/QUOTE] Civil rights violations and racial profiling most definitely are. They're just don't affect you because you're an apathetic privileged white boy.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22248451]Basically, you think illegal immigration is oppressive[/QUOTE] they think enforcing the law is oppressive, and yet so many of them are socialist :irony:

[QUOTE=cccritical;22248489]they think enforcing the law is oppressive, and yet so many of them are socialist :irony:[/QUOTE] Enforcing the law isn't the problem, the law itself is. Learn the difference and learn what socialism is.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22248477]Banning things only makes them more common either way, but legalization is a different argument.[/QUOTE] Wait, what? Banning things makes it easier to get? If you're talking about the "attraction to off-limits things psychology etc" bullshit you're just plain wrong

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248482]Civil rights violations and racial profiling most definitely are. They're just don't affect you because you're an empathetical privileged white boy.[/QUOTE] You're racial profiling right now. You have no evidence that this poster is white, or in matter a fact a boy. I suggest you don't jump to conclusions you fucking disgusting hate speaking bigot. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO SHIT ON THE CONSTITUTION!?! :downs:

[QUOTE=cccritical;22248523]Wait, what? Banning things makes it easier to get? If you're talking about the "attraction to off-limits things psychology etc" bullshit you're just plain wrong[/QUOTE] No, he's saying that in regards to things like drugs and firearms, banning them creates an underground economy - boosting production and supply.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22248499]Enforcing the law isn't the problem, the law itself is. Learn the difference and learn what socialism is.[/QUOTE] a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. it's one step down from communism and it's about big government controlling big industry, yet enforcing the law is oppressive

[QUOTE=Relys;22248533]You're racial profiling right now. You have no evidence that this poster is white, or in matter a fact a boy. I suggest you don't jump to conclusions you fucking disgusting hate speaking bigot. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO SHIT ON THE CONSTITUTION!?! :downs:[/QUOTE] I am not a government entity and am not bound by a constitution.

[QUOTE=cccritical;22248523]Wait, what? Banning things makes it easier to get? If you're talking about the "attraction to off-limits things psychology etc" bullshit you're just plain wrong[/QUOTE] Ever heard of prohibition? Black markets? The Drug war? No prohibition works, and drugs like coke or heroin most certainly aren't as bad for you as you think they are.

[QUOTE=cccritical;22248539]a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. it's one step down from communism and it's about big government controlling big industry, yet enforcing the law is oppressive[/QUOTE] My views align most cleanly with democratic socialism. Go learn what democracy is now.