Swedish artist makes painting from remains of Holocaust victims - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Patriarch;38731054]It wasn't simple, nor a point; you basically just took something I said earlier and got rid of the grammar and stuck it onto some other point.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Patriarch;38731054]It wasn't ... a point; you basically just took something I said earlier and ... stuck it onto some other point.[/QUOTE] also known as making a comparison

[QUOTE=Kopimi;38731038]are you having a bad day or did your glasses fog up in a fit of rage and you had trouble understanding the mind numbingly simple point i was making[/QUOTE] no

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38731087]no[/QUOTE] that wasn't a true or false question but i'll take this as the latter

MODERN ART HAS GONE TOO FAR WHY DIDNT HE DRAW SONIC WITH THE REMAINS

[QUOTE=Patriarch;38730993]It's "natural" to be racist; it doesn't mean you have to support racism. You can explain a lot of things down to nature, and whilst there is probably a biological origin in it, we as humans can overcome it.[/QUOTE] So it all comes down to that you aren't "supporting" emotional attachment? But since you seem to believe it exists, so you must understand just fine why people get sad when someone dies. And you probably also understand why people react the way they do after reading your posts.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;38731112]So it all comes down to that you aren't "supporting" emotional attachment? But since you seem to believe it exists, you must understand just fine why people get sad when someone dies. And you probably also understand why people react the way they do after reading your posts.[/QUOTE] I have no problems with emotions, I myself am a very emotional person and cried over the film Toy Story 2. That being said, I don't think emotional attachment to some things, such as bodies, is good.

[QUOTE=Patriarch;38731135]I have no problems with emotions, I myself am a very emotional person and cried over the film Toy Story 2. [/QUOTE] "I'm not racist, I have black friends"

[QUOTE=Patriarch;38731135]I have no problems with emotions, I myself am a very emotional person and cried over the film Toy Story 2. That being said, I don't think emotional attachment to some things, such as bodies, is good.[/QUOTE] Then feel pity for the people that still feel attached, instead of encouraging actions that will pain them.

[QUOTE=Patriarch;38731135]I have no problems with emotions, I myself am a very emotional person and cried over the film Toy Story 2. That being said, I don't think emotional attachment to some things, such as bodies, is good.[/QUOTE] youre smart [QUOTE=Kopimi;38731100]that wasn't a true or false question but i'll take this as the latter[/QUOTE] you're nice

[QUOTE=jaykray;38731150]"I'm not racist, I have black friends"[/QUOTE] you're just patternmatching it to a stock "i'm-not-racist-but" cliche rather than actually examining what he's saying. it's a different thing entirely

[QUOTE=TH89;38729427]There's ashes on display at the museum, it's pretty fair to assume he stole some of them.[/QUOTE] Correct. He took the ashes from the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek_concentration_camp"]Majdanek[/URL] (may-dahn-eck) concentration camp memorial. The issue of ashes being used as a means of Holocaust memorial actually predates this painting. In Majdanek, there is a mausoleum containing a huge pile of ashes of Holocaust victims: [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Majdanek_-_ashes_mount.jpg[/t] The artist who created the memorial had stated that presenting the ashes of the victims in such a manner was to serve as proof that the Holocaust happened; however, there are some who feel that this is not how the ashes should be treated. They feel that the ashes should be given a proper burial, as leaving them in their current state is inappropriate. The artist has the final say on the matter, though, and the memorial cannot be altered until after his death.

I wonder how Elie Wiesel will react...

Thing is, visually the ashes create an interesting texture and color, very washed out, which looks sort of sad. However, using peoples remains? Not a good idea.

[QUOTE=En Ex;38731274]Correct. He took the ashes from the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdanek_concentration_camp"]Majdanek[/URL] (may-dahn-eck) concentration camp memorial. The issue of ashes being used as a means of Holocaust memorial actually predates this painting. In Majdanek, there is a mausoleum containing a huge pile of ashes of Holocaust victims: [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Majdanek_-_ashes_mount.jpg[/t] The artist who created the memorial had stated that presenting the ashes of the victims in such a manner was to serve as proof that the Holocaust happened; however, there are some who feel that this is not how the ashes should be treated. They feel that the ashes should be given a proper burial, as leaving them in their current state is inappropriate. The artist has the final say on the matter, though, and the memorial cannot be altered until after his death.[/QUOTE] That's still more respectful than shoving them in a picture frame.

All of my what. Take it, take it, I don't know what to do with it

[QUOTE=Scot;38729480]It's about what it represents, not what it looks like.[/QUOTE] What does it represent then?

You guys know the more pissed you get at the artist for something like this, the more valuable the art piece will likely end up being in the eyes of history, right? That's sort of how stuff like this works.

Imagine the paintbrush. He probably swished off the ashes in a pot of water so that they wouldn't dry up and clump it. Then he dumped the water in the drain.

o vey the ashes

Came into this expecting some sensationalist title, and it was actually something else. I was wrong.

Wow some ashes, does it matter?

It's shit anyway. It's just a square of dried dirt

This is one of the few things I've read that's actually managed to piss me off. This is [I]fucked[/I].

They're ashes of long dead people , if they we're already put on display in a musuem then what does it matter if they're put display in a piece of art .

This is honestly a cool piece of work. It looks like a bunch of depressed, hopeless, people ontop of the ground filled with the ashes of the others, and the fact its painted with actual remains is very very artistic. I can't be the only one who sees the massive amounts of symbolism in this painting. It's actually one of the more dramatic pieces I've seen. [editline]7th December 2012[/editline] Everything from the polished cleaned background to each individual brush stroke, you can see it was meticulously planned to add to the meaning of other things around it. I think its fucking beautiful. [editline]7th December 2012[/editline] No, I'm not high, I actually like it.