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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730135]The circle of logic It's invalid reasoning It's the circle... The circle of logic why are you making my continue the argument I blame you now[/QUOTE] It has to do with Ayn Rand there is no Logic Ayn Rand and Logic is a flawed concept Also equated with Ayn Rand are terribly written books that should make any literary enthusiast puncture their own lung. [editline]06:37PM[/editline] gosh,shut up [editline]06:37PM[/editline] idiot [editline]06:37PM[/editline] jerk [editline]06:37PM[/editline] Jerk
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730196]Also equated with Ayn Rand are terribly written books that should make any literary enthusiast puncture their own lung.[/QUOTE] It bothers me that objectivists think she's an amazing writer somehow. This isn't even argument anymore. Now it's a side-discussion about Ayn Rand.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;18730189]You guys really don't like that some people don't think like you do.[/QUOTE] That's exactly why the Bill didn't pass, isn't it?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730218]It bothers me that objectivists think she's an amazing writer somehow. This isn't even argument anymore. Now it's a side-discussion about Ayn Rand.[/QUOTE] or as I like to put it Ayn Stupid-Face T. Rand
[QUOTE=Thom12255;18730189]You guys really don't like that some people don't think like you do.[/QUOTE] or maybe us guys don't like that some people want to take/repress the rights of others in a developed country.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730218]It bothers me that objectivists think she's an amazing writer somehow. This isn't even argument anymore. Now it's a side-discussion about Ayn Rand.[/QUOTE] and it bothers me people can be Libertarians past the age of 13
Who the fuck cares?
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730238]and it bothers me people can be Libertarians past the age of 13[/QUOTE] John Stuart Mill!
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730238]and it bothers me people can be Libertarians past the age of 13[/QUOTE] Like that guy in your avatar
[QUOTE=Thom12255;18730189]You guys really don't like that some people don't think like you do.[/QUOTE] look at thom, not being able to realize that opinions are secondary to human rights
[QUOTE=Bledrix;18730253]Who the fuck cares?[/QUOTE] 1% or so of Americans, Homeless kids stuck in a foster home, that would otherwise have a good home to go to
[QUOTE=demoguy08;18728571]The intolerance frightens me, honestly. Are these people seriously fucking stupid? You americans with some sense left (non-conservatives), how do you manage?[/QUOTE] No idea. New York rocks, but some times this damn state can be stupid. Hell, the NYC public education system alone is a fuck up. This, this is just retarded.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730091] then you lose your right to speak your opinion. [/QUOTE] Because I do not want to get into an arguement that I never intended to get into. Your opinion of yourself is much to high.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730261]Like that guy in your avatar[/QUOTE] Dr. Thompson is a lot like Bill Maher. They say they're Libertarians simply because they have liberty values. I read Kingdom of Fear, that book was so far left, I felt a little conservative. I've read pretty much every piece of work I could by Thompson. I'm probably being bias towards him, but god damn he's my hero. [editline]06:54PM[/editline] [QUOTE=carcarcargo;18730381]Because I do not want to get into an arguement that I never intended to get into. Your opinion of yourself is much to high.[/QUOTE] Then don't speak your mind on a forum. you know, forum, it comes from the latin which means an open public place for debate. [editline]06:55PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18730260]John Stuart Mill![/QUOTE] I'm not sure Mill was a libertarian then Again, I don't think he knew what he was either. [editline]06:55PM[/editline] He was more liberal then anything.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730394] Then don't speak your mind on a forum. you know, forum, it comes from the latin which means an open public place for debate. [/QUOTE] What does that even have to do with anything.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730394]Dr. Thompson is a lot like Bill Maher. They say they're Libertarians simply because they have liberty values.[/QUOTE] What do you consider a Libertarian then? Only batshit crazies like Bob Barr or Ron Paul? Although he did have a big picture of Che on his wall so I guess that helps your argument A LITTLE [editline]12:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18730394]I'm not sure Mill was a libertarian then Again, I don't think he knew what he was either. [editline]06:55PM[/editline] He was more liberal then anything.[/QUOTE] Libertarians fap to JSM
To everyone who's been accusing Conservatives and Republicans of this ruling, being a Resident of New York State I can tell you without any question that the Political climate in New York is HUGELY Liberal and Democratic. I have no idea how this managed to happen, but I really doubt the handful of Republicans or Conservatives managed it. Even the population is largely left-wing. [editline]01:01PM[/editline] We're a blue state as well. [editline]01:01PM[/editline] Much to my dismay.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730446]What do you consider a Libertarian then? Only batshit crazies like Bob Barr or Ron Paul?[/quote] Selfish dickweeds who would rather die then give a dollar to a homeless person. You know, like Ayn Rand said. I respect libertarianism up to the point of Liberty. but a lot of Libertarians kind of confuse them selves with liberals. The idea of selfishness and "going John Galt" is both disgusting and childish. [quote]Although he did have a big picture of Che on his wall so I guess that helps your argument A LITTLE[/quote] He said in an interview after 9/11 that he was not a liberal. But I then read his book. He makes Lenin look like Rush Limbaugh. And what about Gonzo journalism. His opinions and articles during the 60's represented the ultra-left as well as the hippies. besides, he has Che shit everywhere in his cabin. shirts, posters, etc. [quote]Libertarians fap to JSM[/QUOTE] He was more liberal then anything... [editline]07:04PM[/editline] oh that's right, Libertarians are silly little people [editline]07:05PM[/editline] [QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;18730491]To everyone who's been accusing Conservatives and Republicans of this ruling, being a Resident of New York State I can tell you without any question that the Political climate in New York is HUGELY Liberal and Democratic. I have no idea how this managed to happen, but I really doubt the handful of Republicans or Conservatives managed it. Even the population is largely left-wing. [editline]01:01PM[/editline] We're a blue state as well. [editline]01:01PM[/editline] Much to my dismay.[/QUOTE] I read a brilliant article in the village voice about the NY senate and the spineless democrats. [editline]07:05PM[/editline] it also had a FABULOUS picture of Governor Patterson in a hot pink shirt holding a gay flag.
The only reason you can reject to gay marriage with legit reasons is because your God told you so, and since we separate politics from religion its unconstitutional since imposing religious values on others violates our freedom of (and from) religion.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730531] I respect libertarianism up to the point of Liberty.[/QUOTE] You're in luck, given that's why I think you'll find most libertarians are libertarian
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730766]You're in luck, given that's why I think you'll find most libertarians are libertarian[/QUOTE] But when they get into economics, they need to shoot themselves in the chest.
Fuck that country!
[QUOTE=Negrul1;18730907]Fuck that country![/QUOTE] New York?
goddamn homos feel we should give them "basic human rights" [editline]12:34PM[/editline] disgusting
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18730877]But when they get into economics, they need to shoot themselves in the chest.[/QUOTE] I love being a libertarian because it means I can call people a dirty pinko commie and they don't know if I'm being serious or ironic. Sometimes I'm not sure.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18730971]I love being a libertarian because it means I can call people a dirty pink commie and they don't know if I'm being serious or ironic. Sometimes I'm not sure.[/QUOTE] ironic.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18731097]ironic.[/QUOTE] I hope
You're like thisispain. Loonly lefty commies with who associated themselves with Lankist. god... Lankist. [editline]07:54PM[/editline] how does one survive when half their brain is liquefied Atlas Shrugged novels.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18731182]You're like thisispain. Loonly lefty commies with who associated themselves with Lankist. god... Lankist. [editline]07:54PM[/editline] how does one survive when half their brain is liquefied Atlas Shrugged novels.[/QUOTE] What. Lankist hasn't read a word of Rand fyi Although I may be misreading your post because it seems to be all over the place
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18731182]You're like thisispain. Loonly lefty commies with who associated themselves with Lankist. god... Lankist. [editline]07:54PM[/editline] how does one survive when half their brain is liquefied Atlas Shrugged novels.[/QUOTE] The story goes that he fed on law threads.
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