May: I’ll rip up human rights laws that impede new terror legislation - Polidicks

[QUOTE=LAMB SAUCE;52322591]If that's not a knee-jerk then i don't know what is[/QUOTE] Not a knee-jerk, but her ideal all along.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52322947]I'm surprised the terrorists aren't going after these fucks instead of blowing up little girls.[/QUOTE] Sadly that's the easiest way to engage in terrorism: random acts of violence. And in that regard I daresay that, for all the nightmarish horrors happening in the Middle East, and all the violent incidents on Western soil, ISIS are frankly a bunch of lazy and disorganized fuckers. Come to think of it, when was the last time we heard about an assassination attempt against major world leaders? You would think that, as supposed paragons of order in a chaotic world, world leaders would be on the top of every madman's hit list.

[QUOTE=ironman17;52322979]Sadly that's the easiest way to engage in terrorism: random acts of violence. And in that regard I daresay that, for all the nightmarish horrors happening in the Middle East, and all the violent incidents on Western soil, ISIS are frankly a bunch of lazy and disorganized fuckers. Come to think of it, when was the last time we heard about an assassination attempt against major world leaders? You would think that, as supposed paragons of order in a chaotic world, world leaders would be on the top of every madman's hit list.[/QUOTE] Well there was the Westminster attack I guess.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52322947]I'm surprised the terrorists aren't going after these fucks instead of blowing up little girls.[/QUOTE] Because the entire point is to create exactly this reaction Destabilizing a country by a random attack is exactly the thing they want Killing people that aren't fucking insane and destructive doesn't help you be insane and destructive if May won and managed to go through with this, that would literally be the end of the UK in their eyes, and a complete victory. Just look at 9/11, may as well have been a victory afterwards.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52322947]I'm surprised the terrorists aren't going after these fucks instead of blowing up little girls.[/QUOTE] Why would they? This is the exact reaction they want. Congrats May for being played again and using a traumatic situation to yet again push your shitty agenda. God I'm so going to make sure I get up and out early so I can vote against this shriveled waffle before I have to hit my night shift.

[QUOTE=Conscript;52322662]The terrorists win if you capitulate and give what they want, such as evacuate the middle east. Otherwise, Islamists love the altruism of an open society, it's easy to work in particularly if everyone is more afraid of being called a racist or a fascist then being blown up. Liberal values work best when everyone accepts them. Otherwise, you must make the world safe democracy, like always.[/QUOTE] you do realize that getting facists to run a country you hate is literally the perfect way to destabilize a country without invading it head on. Pretty much dismantling a democracy is as easy as letting idiots like May or Trump exist by scaring the shit out of everyone and letting the country itself ruin itself. The US wasting billions on surplus tanks, and a worthless TSA program, and wiretapping itself is the perfect storm. You can have Theresa May if you want though. Who needs "human rights" anyways.

[QUOTE=Conscript;52322662]The terrorists win if you capitulate and give what they want, such as evacuate the middle east. Otherwise, Islamists love the altruism of an open society, it's easy to work in particularly if everyone is more afraid of being called a racist or a fascist then being blown up. Liberal values work best when everyone accepts them. Otherwise, you must make the world safe democracy, like always.[/QUOTE] I'd say they actually like us bombing the Middle East and wouldn't like us leaving, it gives them the bogeyman they need to get more people for their cause.

if May gets elected after saying this, the UK should be fucking glassed for somehow achieving a negative IQ average

[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52323025]if May gets elected after saying this, the UK should be fucking glassed for somehow achieving a negative IQ average[/QUOTE] By all means, put us out of our misery. Or better still, just put Parliament out of it's misery and put the scientists in charge.

[QUOTE=ironman17;52323039]By all means, put us out of our misery. Or better still, just put Parliament out of it's misery and put the scientists in charge.[/QUOTE] I'm so bloody glad I got dual citizenship and fucked off when i did. Stay strong - or get out. Preferably get out.

trying to "Stand up against extremism" by being an extremist is dumb

Unfortunately the democracy is already largely dismantled. The Press is allowed to publish straight-up lies and cherry-pick old interviews which disagree with politicians' current views, and also allowed to blatantly slander candidates whenever they feel like. Why? Because the Conservatives have been in government long enough to turn freedom of the press into control of the press. We will be the firmest oligarchy in the world in a year's time with Rupert at the forefront of mind control tactics.

what's absolutely sickening is the people cheering this on after all the wars, bloodshed, tears and trouble, people are now on the precipice of embracing an authoritarian regime. in the past we prided ourselves on our open and free society, now the fuckwits are willingly signing away their human rights to GET RID OB DEM BLUDDY MUBLIMS. what the fuck did we do to deserve this

It's a shame that nobody cares. Most people in the UK don't get their information from anywhere but the right wing press, so they wont even know this is happening. Plus, I've already seen people outright defending this. [i]"I read in the sun that a muzzie raped 40 white British girls and we couldn't deport him!? fuck these so called "human rights"!"[/i] or just the classic [i]"nothing to hide nothing to fear!"[/i] rhetoric. The usual suspects for this kind of thinking have unfortunately been banned on FP, which is sad because they would probably do an excellent job of proving my point right now.

I seriously can't get my head around this kind of thinking. "I'm going to make your [i] human rights [/i] invalid if they impede my authoritarian agenda!" "Well, you have my vote- look at the other bloke! where's his tie!?"

[QUOTE=LAMB SAUCE;52322591]If that's not a knee-jerk then i don't know what is[/QUOTE] It isn't. Don't mistake it for a kneejerk reaction. That would imply that it stems from somewhere emotional or a sincere belief that it's the right thing to do in order to stop terrorism. It's not. May has a huge track record of trying to stomp on people's rights and worming her way into policing their personal lives. Notice how she [I]immediately[/I] jumps to regulating the internet for example. It's obvious to anyone who pays attention that it has little to do with terrorism. May is a fucking coward hiding behind stuff like this to feed her need for totalitarian control over everyone she sets her beady eyes on.

The problem is one of perception - until the loss of said human rights personally impinges on them directly, many people will not understand what a huge impact losing those rights is.

[QUOTE=GoingPostal13;52323192]The problem is one of perception - until the loss of said human rights personally impinges on them directly, many people will not understand what a huge impact losing those rights is.[/QUOTE] First they came for the [i] bloody immigrants!!! [/i]....

Despite my contempt for May, I was really coming into this thread assuming it was going to be 'sensationalist' or taken out of context... I have no words for this, other than utter dismay really.

Holy shit May, V for Vendetta was an action movie not an instructional guide video.

No thanks, the only thing we should ripping up is this hag and her party.

[QUOTE=Del91;52322515]What the fuck happened that everything has gotten so insane. Can we go back to the last decade?[/QUOTE] Don't ask me, you're the one with the Delorean. :v: Please take us with you. On topic: holy shit it's like a gender-swapped version of George Bush and the 9/11 retardation administration. :terrists:

[QUOTE=Trainbike;52323188]Notice how she [I]immediately[/I] jumps to regulating the internet for example. It's obvious to anyone who pays attention that it has little to do with terrorism.[/QUOTE] I read an opinion piece on WaPo recently (can't find the link and it's an opinion piece anyway) that said that Trump's immigration restrictions aren't going to stop extremism at all, because the real threat is citizens being radicalized over the Internet. A considerable percentage of the Muslim-extremism attacks and plots within the past several years have involved mostly or exclusively citizens. The Internet has a [I]lot[/I] to do with terrorism. So, May is not completely in the wrong direction by claiming that the Internet needs to be patrolled for jihadist efforts. However, there is no reason to trust May with regulating the Internet, she's a menace.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52323951]I read an opinion piece on WaPo recently (can't find the link and it's an opinion piece anyway) that said that Trump's immigration restrictions aren't going to stop extremism at all, because the real threat is citizens being radicalized over the Internet. A considerable percentage of the Muslim-extremism attacks and plots within the past several years have involved mostly or exclusively citizens. The Internet has a [I]lot[/I] to do with terrorism. So, May is not completely in the wrong direction by claiming that the Internet needs to be patrolled for jihadist efforts. However, there is no reason to trust May with regulating the Internet, she's a menace.[/QUOTE] Except that we already have internet monitoring to such a degree that most people being radicalised have their internet activity flagged (as had happened with at least one of the London attackers, iirc, and certainly the Manchester bomber) - the problem is that our police is so overstretched that they can't really respond unless the threat becomes credible. May's just pushing for more internet regulation to a.) stifle political discourse detrimental to her party's re-election chances and b.) try and push attention away from her vicious cuts aimed at the Police force being directly responsible for this fucking mess.

[QUOTE=Craigewan;52324189]the problem is that our police is so overstretched that they can't really respond unless the threat becomes credible. May's just pushing for more internet regulation to a.) stifle political discourse detrimental to her party's re-election chances and b.) try and push attention away from her vicious cuts aimed at the Police force being directly responsible for this fucking mess.[/QUOTE] No arguments here. That's part of why I don't trust May for a second - un-slashing police funding is going to be orders of magnitude more effective at tackling extremist threats in the UK, but hmmm, what does she choose instead?

Part that infuriates me the most is that she is willing to take basic rights away from completely ordinary and innocents citizens in a (likely purposely) misguided attempt to curb terrorism. It's never going to work. If anything, it means we'll just move even closer to a dystopian future. And I say "we" because other like-minded leader in other countries will no doubt be inspired and try the same if she succeeds with this bullshit.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire. She really is heading this country into the wrong direction, absolutely horrid

[QUOTE=Spetsnaz95;52324299]Part that infuriates me the most is that she is willing to take basic rights away from completely ordinary and innocents citizens in a (likely purposely) misguided attempt to curb terrorism. It's never going to work. If anything, it means we'll just move even closer to a dystopian future. And I say "we" because other like-minded leader in other countries will no doubt be inspired and try the same if she succeeds with this bullshit.[/QUOTE] Terrorism is just the excuse for May, she wants as much power over the citizens as possible, witness the laws she plans to use to control the internet

Yeah this isn't a Knee-jerk it's little more than naked opportunism from a government that wants to be as authoritarian as possible. May has been around for a while prior to becoming the one holding the bag after the EU referendum, and she's been trying to instate stuff like this for [i] years. [/i]