Active Volcano Found Under Antarctic Ice: Eruption Could Raise Sea Levels - Polidicks

However, the loss of sea ice does have an affect on climate.

[QUOTE=Itauske Roken;42915627]Apparently everyone's forgotten how ice works, seeing as it's 2/3rds air, and not 100% water. There's also evaporation so any additional water will cause no change in sea level.[/QUOTE] Gather round kids! Time for a Chemistry lesson! Water is a Molecule! It's chemical formulae is H2O, Each hydrogen forming a covalent bond with the Oxygen atom. As well as these two bonds, the Oxygen will have a lone pair of electrons. Without a doubt you will all know about the Valence Electron Shell Repulsion Theory. This means that the Water molecule will form a V shape. Seen as Oxygen is Highly electro negative, and because of it being a V shape and having a lone electron pair on the Oxygen, Water molecules will form Hydrogen bonds between each other creating a strong intermolecular force of attraction (stronger than Permanent dipole-dipole forces, and in turn stronger than Van-der-walls.) When heating up water molecules, the thermal energy will overcome the Hydrogen bonds, and turn it into water vapour. If you heat it even more you will turn it into Steam. All we have done, trough heating, is over come the intermolecular forces of attraction. We have not broken down the molecule into it's constituent elements. There for, we will not produce Hydrogen gas or Oxygen gas. So remember kids! When Heating: H20 (s) + Heat -> H20 (g) And when using Electrophilic substitution: 2H20 (l) + 4NaCl (aq) + (Movement of Charged Species) -> 2H2 (g) + 2Cl2 (g) + 2Na2O (s) And now to get back on topic! I wonder what affects it will have on high altitude air currents....

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;42916030]I for one haven't been to high school since I graduated almost 6 years ago. All knowledge gained back then has been put to no use. My job is so shit I can do it with my eyes closed using minimal brain power. Unless you specialize in something, you can't be expected to know too much about it.[/QUOTE] If you openly profess your ignorance, why even attempt to make statements like this? [QUOTE=IceWarrior98;42915831]So this volcano might the be final catalyst that gives us that final push out of the ice age? Seeing as technically we are still in the ice age, just thawing really really slowly.[/QUOTE] There's so many things wrong with this statement it's terrifying.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;42916464]If you openly profess your ignorance, why even attempt to make statements like this? There's so many things wrong with this statement it's terrifying.[/QUOTE] If I openly profess my ignorance, does it make it right to mock me instead of teach me?

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;42916556]If I openly profess my ignorance, does it make it right to mock me instead of teach me?[/QUOTE] We are not in an ice age. That's shit that climate change/global warming denialists spout. Sorry if I'm coming across as harsh, but that is one of the few things that legitimately make me angry. It is so demonstrably wrong on so many levels.

I'd be more worried about the influx of cold water into the surrounding oceans. I heard that can wreak havoc on the currents that are responsible for regulating temperatures during the warm and cold seasons. I understand that these currents are also what produce the rains.

We're fucked either way, it's just a race at the moment to see if we wipe ourselves out first or if the earth does it instead.

[QUOTE=Source;42917753]We're fucked either way, it's just a race at the moment to see if we wipe ourselves out first or if the earth does it instead.[/QUOTE] We could wipe ourselves out right now with all the nukes.

A volcano eh? Finally they have something to blame for melting sea ice besides humans!

[QUOTE=Itauske Roken;42915758]It's a commonly known fact that water when it freezes expands, when it melts it contracts. The only way the oceans will increase past it's current sea level is if suddenly every amount of water on earth known and unknown filled the oceans at once. And that would take quite a bit of time, most likely a month or more. And half of Nation Geographic is into the whole 'global warming water will raise the sea levels if the ice caps melted' bs because they're buying into whatever Al Gore (who is not a scientist by the way) says about climate change. Consensus =/= Science.[/QUOTE] Noone cares about Al Gore. Noone has said anything about Al Gore in years except to talk shit about him, and climate scientists- wait what am I doing why am I getting sucked into your silliness. Anyone who gives enough shits to learn about climate science wouldn't mention the quacks name in the first place, and anyone who would mention Mr. Gore has obviously not wanted to learn anything new in the last decades or is otherwise being spoonfed opinions by their republican parents.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;42915970]Floating ice displaces a volume of water that is proportional to its weight. When it melts it occupies that volume. Ergo no change in height from that reason alone. The reason that melting ice around Antarctica, Greenland, etc would cause a rise is because the ice isn't floating. It's sitting on top of land and not displacing water. Additionally, ocean temperature increases would result in some degree of raising water levels due to thermal expansion. The amount of stupid in this thread is ridiculous. It's like you people haven't even had a high school physics course or some shit. Jesus christ.[/QUOTE] Kinda correct. Most/many of the large glaciers around the poles are actually freshwater, meaning they are less dense than typical frozen ice sheet salt water. As a result, if they melt there would actually be a rise in sea level.

This thread is brilliant, and I am one of the ones that would have been somewhat wrong! For something we learn at quite a young age we should be embarrassed! Quality!

[QUOTE=Itauske Roken;42915627]Apparently everyone's forgotten how ice works, seeing as it's 2/3rds air, and not 100% water. There's also evaporation so any additional water will cause no change in sea level.[/QUOTE]Where the heck do you think the evaporated water goes? Into space?

[QUOTE=spaceghostx;42916115]It's an active volcano, not a dormant one, so yes, it will someday.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Active There is no consensus among volcanologists on how to define an "active" volcano. The lifespan of a volcano can vary from months to several million years, making such a distinction sometimes meaningless when compared to the lifespans of humans or even civilizations. For example, many of Earth's volcanoes have erupted dozens of times in the past few thousand years but are not currently showing signs of eruption. Given the long lifespan of such volcanoes, they are very active. By human lifespans, however, they are not. Scientists usually consider a volcano to be erupting or likely to erupt if it is currently erupting, or showing signs of unrest such as unusual earthquake activity or significant new gas emissions. Most scientists consider a volcano active if it has erupted in the last 10,000 years (Holocene times) – the Smithsonian Global Volcanism Program uses this definition of active. There are about 1500 active volcanoes in the world – the majority along the Pacific Ring of Fire – and around 50 of these erupt each year.[7] An estimated 500 million people live near active volcanoes.[7][/QUOTE] Or not.

well if this and yellowstone go off, the world will be fucked beyond reason so.... [editline]19th November 2013[/editline] just going to add this to the pile of shit that can destroy us randomly

[QUOTE=Badballer;42920415]Where the heck do you think the evaporated water goes? Into space?[/QUOTE] It goes... TO CANADA. On a side note: This may either seriously hinder, or seriously help my plans for conquering the Arctic. Having a shitton of ice melt would be nice... You know, so I don't have to dig down hundreds of feet to hit land and start making a country... But the whole "Volcano melting the shit out of the ice and flooding crap" isn't nice either... /end rantaboutconqueringthearticandstartingacountrysoIcansayfuckyoutoalltheothernationsonearthwhiletheybakeduringglobalwarmingandstuff.

Great, what the world needs right now is massive floods and a new ice age.

Three bits of gold for the record books: [t]http://puu.sh/5nF4W.png[/t] [t]http://puu.sh/5nFC8.png[/t] [t]http://puu.sh/5nF2v.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;42915730]If it hasn't exploded duing millions and millions of years then I dont think it will.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Itauske Roken;42915627]Apparently everyone's forgotten how ice works, seeing as it's 2/3rds air, and not 100% water. There's also evaporation so any additional water will cause no change in sea level.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Itauske Roken;42915758]It's a commonly known fact that water when it freezes expands, when it melts it contracts. The only way the oceans will increase past it's current sea level is if suddenly every amount of water on earth known and unknown filled the oceans at once. And that would take quite a bit of time, most likely a month or more. And half of Nation Geographic is into the whole 'global warming water will raise the sea levels if the ice caps melted' bs because they're buying into whatever Al Gore (who is not a scientist by the way) says about climate change. Consensus =/= Science.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Itauske Roken;42915801]Cup of water and ice cube, measure it's water line with the ice in it and then measure the water line after the ice cube melts. THEN come back and give me your sea level raising bs.[/QUOTE] holy shit is this for real how are these two actually this ignorant of these things :v: These posts are just surreal to me. "measure it's water line with the ice in it and then measure the water line after the ice cube melts." also Jesus Christ this one is just [I]gold[/I] you do realize the ice wasn't a part of the ocean to begin with so if you added it on it would be different from having it in the water to begin with.... right? ice berg that's already there melting VS tons of water being suddenly dumped into it

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;42916464]If you openly profess your ignorance, why even attempt to make statements like this? There's so many things wrong with this statement it's terrifying.[/QUOTE] He's right, actually. By the definition of an ice age we're still technically in one. Earth has spent the VAST MAJORITY of its existence without extensive ice sheets (that being Earth has spent most of its existence without ice caps).

[QUOTE=Mbbird;42920983]Three bits of gold for the record books: [t]http://puu.sh/5nF4W.png[/t] [t]http://puu.sh/5nFC8.png[/t] [t]http://puu.sh/5nF2v.png[/t][/QUOTE] How embarrassing.

[QUOTE=Craptasket;42921307]How embarrassing.[/QUOTE] Is there a problem...?

How many volcanoes have erupted between 1995 and present?

[QUOTE=Dakiin Dovah;42921912]How many volcanoes have erupted between 1995 and present?[/QUOTE] thats a very subjective question... volcanos like st. hellens are like once in a lifetime, while the volcanos in hawii have never stopped erupting since prehistoric times, but major ones like that icelandic one are only about maybe a dozen

[QUOTE=Dakiin Dovah;42921912]How many volcanoes have erupted between 1995 and present?[/QUOTE] There's about 20 volcanoes erupting at any given moment in time, but these usually aren't big, bombastic erruptions like, as Sableye mentioned, Mt. St. Hellens. They're usually just small, continuous eruptions that have been going on for thousands of years or longer. Learned that at the museum like a week and a half ago, but here's a source if you wanna see one. [url]http://www.volcano.si.edu/faq.cfm#q3[/url]

Not subjective, just not specific enough. I'll do that now... How many large and potentially destructive volcanic eruptions have there been between 1995 and present?