[QUOTE=Dr.Strangelove;20158347]It's like being scared of a man with a revolver, when you have a cannon pointed at his head.[/QUOTE]
You're making two fatal assumptions:
1. The guy pointing the revolver isn't a suicidal lunatic.
2. The guy isn't actually discretely passing another revolver to someone else.
[QUOTE=David29;20158439]You're making two fatal assumptions:
1. The guy pointing the revolver isn't a suicidal lunatic.
2. The guy isn't actually discretely passing another revolver to someone else.[/QUOTE]
You're making two mean assumptions:
1. You think Iran is full of meanies.
2. But luckily he didn't put bullets in the revolver. Hurrah!
but really, please tell me why Ahmadindjad is a suicidal lunatic.
and giving the nuclear weapons to someone else wasn't the issue here, or was it?
They are asking for a kick in the ass.
[QUOTE=Dr.Strangelove;20158480]You're making two mean assumptions:
1. You think Iran is full of meanies.
2. But luckily he didn't put bullets in the revolver. Hurrah![/QUOTE]
1. "If you fail to prepare you prepare to fail". It is a very bad idea to assume that everyone has the best intentions. If you don't understand this then you aren't going to get very far in life.
2. Your response highlights the irony of you calling me dumb.
The attention makes them feel powerful. Ignore them and they will fuck off, like a child
[QUOTE=David29;20158553]1. "If you fail to prepare you prepare to fail". It is a very bad idea to assume that everyone has the best intentions. If you don't understand this then you aren't going to get very far in life.
2. Your response highlights the irony of you calling me dumb.[/QUOTE]
He's Dr. Strangelove. He knows his shit with nukes!
Any nuclear weapon Iran could produce would be like a firecracker compared to what we have. They would be pissing a lot of powerful people off by using it, or giving it to someone else to use.
[QUOTE=David29;20158553]1. "If you fail to prepare you prepare to fail". It is a very bad idea to assume that everyone has the best intentions. If you don't understand this then you aren't going to get very far in life.
2. Your response highlights the irony of you calling me dumb.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between preparing yourself and not letting anyone else prepare. Yes I maybe dumb but not everything has to be serious business all the time, especially on Facepunch.
Oh and if you don't assume the best in people you wont get far with the ladies. Err, Yes I guess it's naive of me to assume the best in people but it's the only way I can avoid being a jackass.
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[QUOTE=Kingston;20158558]The attention makes them feel powerful. Ignore them and they will fuck off, like a child[/QUOTE]
but if they want to show off their 2inch dick (20%) then we be like "no way nigga, we got a 8inch (80%) dick bi'ch and yo can only have a 0.5inch dick or else we gon' fuck you in the ass like mad!" Then nothing good will come of it.
I am so proud of my country right now. Fear meeeee! :jihad:
So Iran didn't do a nuclear test, I guess they really wanted to show the 20% Uranium Enrichment is all for 'peaceful' purposes.
[QUOTE=Dr.Strangelove;20158622]There is a difference between preparing yourself and not letting anyone else prepare. Yes I maybe dumb but not everything has to be serious business all the time, especially on Facepunch.
Oh and if you don't assume the best in people you wont get far with the ladies. Err, Yes I guess it's naive of me to assume the best in people but it's the only way I can avoid being a jackass.
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but if they want to show off their 2inch dick (20%) then we be like "no way nigga, we got a 8inch (80%) dick bi'ch and yo can only have a 0.5inch dick or else we gon' fuck you in the ass like mad!" Then nothing good will come of it.[/QUOTE]
All 9500+ of our 8 inch dicks.
And the ones on our long, hard, black (and full of semen mind you.) dicks.
[img]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1021/tridentsub.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Dr.Strangelove;20158622]Oh and if you don't assume the best in people you wont get far with the ladies. Err, Yes I guess it's naive of me to assume the best in people but it's the only way I can avoid being a jackass.
[/QUOTE]
Please quote me where I said it was wrong to assume the best in people.
Don't twist my words.
Ok forget that then, If you don't assume the best in middle eastern people you wont get any hot Arab ladies sex.
[QUOTE=Linelor;20157743]Because it would get him in the history books which is what he cares about. Not about religion or his people, he cares about his fame and how powerful he is.[/QUOTE]
Unless you can somehow prove that's what he wants it's pure conjecture (like a lot of western views of other countries). Not to mention if he wanted to get into the history books he would have done it by improving the country and maintaining the revolution, like he has, not destroying it and the books he'd supposedly get in. A nuclear war is the last thing a politician like ahmadwhatever would need in his career.
[QUOTE=David29;20158301]Oh no, I have been been put on a list. Dear God help me.
Anyhow, 20% is still weapons grade. Not as good as 80 or 90%, but it has the advantage in that you can you can claim it is for innocent purposes much like what Iran is doing. You call me dumb, yet you still fail to grasp that a nuclear weapon is still a nuclear weapon regardless of the enrichment.[/QUOTE]
Yeah no I'm pretty sure they can't and won't do anything with 20%.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;20159582]Yeah no I'm pretty sure they can't and won't do anything with 20%.[/QUOTE]
"Highly enriched uranium (HEU) has a greater than 20% concentration of 235U or 233U. The fissile uranium in nuclear weapons usually contains 85% or more of 235U known as weapon(s)-grade, though for a crude, inefficient weapon [b]20% is sufficient (called weapon(s)-usable)[/b]; some argue that even less is sufficient, but then the critical mass for unmoderated fast neutrons rapidly increases, reaching infinity at 6%235U."
I heard on BBC that 20% is enough to create a bomb, just an inefficient one.
I was hoping for nuclear war all day...
[QUOTE=Nyaos;20157220]Terrifyingly true words.[/QUOTE]
Except they do have a sense of self-preservation.
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Go on talk about suicide bombers! Compare one misguided soul to a whole nation who isn't even behind their leader! :)
[QUOTE=Conscript;20159436]Unless you can somehow prove that's what he wants it's pure conjecture (like a lot of western views of other countries). Not to mention if he wanted to get into the history books he would have done it by improving the country and maintaining the revolution, like he has, not destroying it and the books he'd supposedly get in. A nuclear war is the last thing a politician like ahmadwhatever would need in his career.[/QUOTE]
Well he clearly doesn't have the welfare of his people in mind nor the welfare of his country. He is killing children and anyone who is opposed to him and he has the Saudi's lowing the oil prices to $70 a barrel which is killing Iran's economy with the crazy spending he's doing on this stupid nuclear program that in the end will get him nowhere. If he's lucky he will end up with his head on a pike and be paraded around the streets within a year or so. If not he will continue this nonsense and ruin the country or will actually do something and will end up in a US prison camp somewhere.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;20159951]Except they do have a sense of self-preservation.
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Go on talk about suicide bombers! Compare one misguided soul to a whole nation who isn't even behind their leader! :)[/QUOTE]
You think the people control the country, you think even Ahmandinjaid controls it, lol.
[QUOTE=Master117;20157170]I think this is pretty true. They do like waving their dicks in our faces. What's a better way to wave it than with a nuke attached?[/QUOTE]
If they waved their dicks in our faces they would be embarrassed because we'd laugh at their size.
Silly Iran, thinking that they're a threat.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;20160161]You think the people control the country, you think even Ahmandinjaid controls it, lol.[/QUOTE]
The threat of total annihilation by your own leaders actions would seem to be a pretty good motivator for a popular uprising.
Dont'cha think.
:foxnews:
Well, this should be interesting, at any rate.
Me and my american history teacher was talking about this. She said nothing is gonna happen.
She's right.
It's going to be a nuclear wasteland if they keep acting like retards
[QUOTE=Linelor;20160127]Well he clearly doesn't have the welfare of his people in mind nor the welfare of his country. He is killing children and anyone who is opposed to him and he has the Saudi's lowing the oil prices to $70 a barrel which is killing Iran's economy with the crazy spending he's doing on this stupid nuclear program that in the end will get him nowhere. If he's lucky he will end up with his head on a pike and be paraded around the streets within a year or so. If not he will continue this nonsense and ruin the country or will actually do something and will end up in a US prison camp somewhere.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if you're crediting the right people for that. Ahmadinejad is a mere figure of the party, the state, and the revolution. Do you really think he's behind [i]everything[/i] Iran does? What about the mass structure of the state that pays his salary, directs the nuclear program, writes his speeches, and so on. This is why I hate liberal analyses of geopolitics. They make gods out of the people they oppose. Monarchs, dictators, whatever.
The reality is there is no one person that directs everything. Not in monarchy, not in nazi germany, not in stalinist russia, no where. There is only the interests of the state. In nazi germany, italy, and japan it was continuing the fight against french and british hegemony, in the USSR it was maintaining internal stability in a period of strife, and in Iran it's protecting the islamic revolution and the interests of arab and islamic nationalism. Not one person can do these jobs, it takes a mass of educated people ranging from generals to career politicians to the guy who files the paperwork.
The welfare of the people and the welfare of the state is often antagonistic, especially for a country like Iran, which is the only country practicing its nationalistic and avant garde ideology in the middle east, which happens to be a fairly poor place to practice it regarding the strife and struggle.
Iran's involvement in oil prices are part of a bigger struggle, more specifically its nuclear program and the west's opposition, as are its repression of liberals and communists.
Whether either of these two examples are for the welfare of the country is subjective. Of course any iranian supporter of the status quo is going to argue it is for protecting the country against western imperialism, and not letting any disfunctionaries, that being the anti-1979 liberals, communists, and other reformists, get in the way.
The sad thing is this whole situation with Iran, or its relationship to the west, is not new at all. Iran's situation is greatly similar to that of any state that struggled against the world powers. Nazi germany is the best example, so similar in fact the only real difference between the two is the culture, the national myth, and who they're struggling against. But the reason for struggle hasn't changed, and neither has the weapon (nationalism).
Sorry if I included a bit too much into this response. I just have some opinions that are related and I'd like to express them.
John Stewart made a joke about how Iran said they would defeat the West at the scientific level, and just blasted off into space a Turtle, some Worms and a Gerbil.... Stewart said We had men on the moon 40 fuckin' years ago... Priceless
Iran is the greatest country on Earth.
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