Oregon Court rules that simply viewing child pornography on the Internet isn't illegal
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[QUOTE=carcarcargo;27290912]The act itself might be fine is they're consenting, but what I hate is the mindset that comes with sadists. You just know that if they could get away with it, a lot of them would do it to normal none consenting people.[/QUOTE]
Terrible argument. In fact, it's very similar to the "all men are rapists" argument that neo-feminists use. Stop using that argument.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;27284529]this is good, the same thing that happened to
happened to me[/QUOTE]
Seriously? That fucking sucks dude.
[QUOTE=Dachande;27291445]Thats like saying watching those videos about some cop wrongly shooting a guy makes you an accessory to murder. And unless they TELL THEM somehow to make more of it they can't be enabling them.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference from watching a video of a shooting on youtube, and most likely paying someone to make a video of a child being forced to do sexual acts. And as far as I know it, there is no demand of videos of people shooting eachother.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;27291286]Do you think child molesters are going to stop molesting kids if there isn't anybody on the internet to look at their child porn? No, they'll keep on molesting kids regardless of the size of their audience.[/QUOTE]
This is a completely another problem, and which is why paedophilia must be eliminated. Incarceration into a psych facility, followed by electroconvulsive therapy to terminate paedophiliac tendencies.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;27289999]They're still an accessory to exploitation, and are enabling the exploiters to make more CP.[/QUOTE]
Only if they're paying for it, which the law addresses.
This is a shock, but some pretty reasonable legislation. I wish states would get rid of some of their absurd obscenity laws, however, that make even illustrated shit illegal. That's just silly.
This is good because it'll prevent stupid logic. The guy complaining about it not doing enough to discourage looking at CP is an idiot because that isn't the purpose of the law.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27291647]Terrible argument. In fact, it's very similar to the "all men are rapists" argument that neo-feminists use. Stop using that argument.[/QUOTE]
It's a personal feeling of hate towards them, I have no intention of trying to press it on others.
It's a really touchy subject. Probably lot's have people have viewed cp, due to some dick on 4chan doing it '4 teh lolz". It's fucking sick. If the FBI arrested everyone that has accidentally viewed cp, most internet users would be imprisoned. As i said, it's very touchy and would be confusing to implement throughout the world, for example in Thai culture, pedophiles are hated, the subject is VERY taboo. So you can see why different countries would have different attitudes towards this.
What would Freeman say.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27278417]It also happens if some dick decides to spray child porn in Source games.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't you technically spray child porn on a server and then call the cops on the operator of the server and have them charge him for distribution of child pornography?
[QUOTE=nikomo;27292766]Couldn't you technically spray child porn on a server and then call the cops on the operator of the server and have them charge him for distribution of child pornography?[/QUOTE]
No. Safe-harbor laws. Same reason why no one can prosecute moot because CP gets posted on /b/ all the time.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;27284529]this is good, the same thing that happened to
happened to me[/QUOTE]
elaborate
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;27289999]
They're still an accessory to exploitation, and are enabling the exploiters to make more CP.[/QUOTE]
Except a lot of the CP isn't bought or profited from in any way.
[QUOTE=JDK721;27293432]elaborate[/QUOTE]
he accidentally downloaded cp
This is a good, logical law. It could cause trip-ups in the legal process being that people could say "It was an accident!" a lot, i mean, it's a real possibility but it is certainly better than sending innocent people to jail for 5-20.
If innocent people aren't fucked up before they go to jail, they sure as fuck will be when they get out.
That said, I'm glad for Oregon.
Completely disagree with this. Just because you are not directly, personally paying for internet child pornography doesn't mean you aren't supporting it. By viewing the site and its images, you condone and support the site, the production of such material, and any advertisers on that site. This is horrible.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;27289310]"Logic before morals" leads to things like eugenics. Even the idea that it's bad to hurt other people is a moral one, not a logical one.[/QUOTE]
no it doesnt. nothing about eugenics is logical neither is hurting people.
Could you guys rate me tool if you've seen child porn on accident?
I'm curious to see how prevalent it is.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27296468]Completely disagree with this. Just because you are not directly, personally paying for internet child pornography doesn't mean you aren't supporting it. By viewing the site and its images, you condone and support the site, the production of such material, and any advertisers on that site. This is horrible.[/QUOTE]
What happens if you accidentally end up seeing some CP
This is to protect people who honestly don't want to see CP and end up seeing it because of some fuck on /b/ or something.
Thank fuck for this, because the first time I went to /b/ because I was bored as fuck, I saw child porn and immediately closed the tab, and ever since then I've been worried about the FBI showing up at my door. I've thought about DBAN'ing my HD because of this.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;27292064]It's a personal feeling of hate towards them, I have no intention of trying to press it on others.[/QUOTE]
You hate everyone who is into (consensual) BDSM?
Why
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;27296622]What happens if you accidentally end up seeing some CP
This is to protect people who honestly don't want to see CP and end up seeing it because of some fuck on /b/ or something.[/QUOTE]
I get where you're coming from. However, I feel this option has far too many cons.
fuck year i can go look up CP.
Kidding
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27298167]I get where you're coming from. However, I feel this option has far too many cons.[/QUOTE]
Getting imprisoned and registered as a sex offender because you accidentally saw 1 image is not very fun
I live across the Columbia River from Oregon.
I only caught the article in a nearby Burgerville yesterday, but now it makes a lot more sense. Doesn't seem that bad, although I feel like it'd be too easy to pretend that superfolder of CP hidden away was accidental.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27296715]You hate everyone who is into (consensual) BDSM?
Why[/QUOTE]
Is into unconsensual, if someone is stupid enough to consent to getting hurt then I'm not really bothered. Although like I said, it's not the act I hate, but the mindset that comes with it.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;27302228]Is into unconsensual, if someone is stupid enough to consent to getting hurt then I'm not really bothered. Although like I said, it's not the act I hate, but the mindset that comes with it.[/QUOTE]
you're making generalisations and asssumptions
stop making generalisations and assumptions
Hopefully, this will usher in a revised-set of internet laws.
Our current ones are very dated.
Oregon: 4chan IRL
[QUOTE=johan_sm;27298216]Getting imprisoned and registered as a sex offender because you accidentally saw 1 image is not very fun[/QUOTE]
We kinda need to redefine what sex offender means, huh? Teenage girls branded as sex offenders for their whole life for sexting makes no sense.
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