Oculus Rift wants to make a billion person MMO "Do we want to be Gameboy or iPhone?"
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[QUOTE=Midas22;44744606][I]Opinions![/I][/QUOTE]
More like sticking your big greedy hands into a pot of shit and making futile attempts to stir it and whip up controversy where there is none. Try harder, OP.
[QUOTE=Elspin;44745627]Normally I'd agree but they have the backing of a massive company, I think they can deal with the management of one software project being developed by an alternate team.[/QUOTE]
That, and also that I think they are talking about deep future shit. I think they fully understand where their priorities for the immediate future are; they just mentioned, off hand "Hey guys, wouldn't it be cool if someday..."
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44745676]It's a [B][I]SCREEN[/I][/B]. On your [B][I]FACE[/I][/B].
What do you think they're going to do, etch an image of farmville into the lenses?[/QUOTE]
Like seriously, It's an HDMI-in port and a USB-out, support is at the application level. How is magic shovelware just gonna appear out of nowhere?
Also remember how Instagram was purchased by Facebook and completely torn apart and rebuilt as a part of Facebook- Oh wait, what I meant to say was "how it wasn't changed at all and I cannot even find so much as a Facebook logo on [url=http://instagram.com/about/us/]their website[/url]"
Facebook sees their eventual downfall as a social media platform on the horizon, they are trying way in advance to latch onto something that will keep them going- not necessarily as a social media platform, but as a company. Oculus represents a revolutionary technology, it's not in Facebook's interests to fuck with it, but to give Oculus what they need, and get their wheelbarrows of cash in return in the end.
Billion person MMO...
So Zuckerburg is the architect of the Matrix...
Yeah right, like 1 billion people are going to buy the Oculus.
It reminds me of a book I read called Ready Player One
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[QUOTE=Rufia;44744715]To be fair, an acquisition by a big company is hardly 'nothing'. There was just a lot of bias given how much certain circles of the internet dislike Facebook. When taking into account who else could have bought the Oculus, Facebook really isn't that bad at all.[/QUOTE]
Oh man imagine EA buying it
[editline]7th May 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=michaeldim;44745912]Facebook sees their eventual downfall as a social media platform on the horizon, [/QUOTE]
That's an interesting point. You have to ask: what business are companies like facebook and google in? The information business. They're in the business of collecting data and selling it to advertisers, not in the social media business. Social media is a platform that makes people willingly submit their own information to be sold as a commodity without facebook having to ASK for it
[QUOTE=PredGD;44744617]they're being incredibly optimistic. even Runescape has [I]only[/I] 200 million registered users, good luck making an MMO with 1 billion active ones[/QUOTE]
yeah, especially when you consider that a billion is 1/7 of the world's entire population, for a game that would presumably require an add-on device (the headset) apart from just a computer (which would need to be decent enough to do VR)
For anyone curious why they're being so optimistic, facebook has 1.28 billion monthly active users. They just seem to have this idea that a very significant portion of those would buy a VR hardware peripheral to play one of their games :v:
I think the idea is that they want VR headsets to be as popular as regular monitors and TVs. It doesn't sound like they want to make a traditional MMO either, it'll probably be more Second Life than WoW.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;44746423]It reminds me of a book I read called Ready Player One
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I pretty much imagined the dead game developer from that was John Carmack
Imagine if a big company backed a new computer monitor and people started to fucking whine and cry claiming that they would plaster ads on it sssssssomehow.
That is exactly what's happening here.
Somehow I don't think World of Farmville is going to be a killer app.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;44746996]I think the idea is that they want VR headsets to be as popular as regular monitors and TVs. It doesn't sound like they want to make a traditional MMO either, it'll probably be more Second Life than WoW.[/QUOTE]
this is EXACTLY the thing I've been predicting with facebook and I've been waiting for the news that FB has purchased the secondlife IP so they could fund development of a current gen equivalent that links into facebook profiles, kind of like how playstation home was billed up as. Haven't touched that thing since it was still in beta so I can't talk much for its success or evolution.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;44747450]Somehow I don't think World of Farmville is going to be a killer app.[/QUOTE]
the problem is everyone seems to think facebook is literally zynga and king. Facebook is facebook. they don't control the shitty app games that go into it
Do people seriously think that Oculus will be able to achieve it's goals freely without Facebook, as a massive, inept, evil profit-driven company, finding a way to fuck them over completely?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;44747450]Somehow I don't think World of Farmville is going to be a killer app.[/QUOTE]
You're so wrong.
They [I]want[/I] to make a billion person MMO but good luck actually succeeding. It might be feasible in a couple of decades or so.
[QUOTE=dai;44747474]this is EXACTLY the thing I've been predicting with facebook and I've been waiting for the news that FB has purchased the secondlife IP so they could fund development of a current gen equivalent that links into facebook profiles, kind of like how playstation home was billed up as. Haven't touched that thing since it was still in beta so I can't talk much for its success or evolution.
the problem is everyone seems to think facebook is literally zynga and king. Facebook is facebook. they don't control the shitty app games that go into it[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the success of Zynga and King is probably what FB wants to emulate. They sure as heck aren't seeing numbers anywhere close to that anywhere else.
Transhumanism.
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[QUOTE=hippowombat;44747587]You're so wrong.[/QUOTE]
Games like farmville are popular because they're on platforms like Smartphones and social media that are more ubiquitous than any console or gaming PC, where they can reach more potential users than AOL disks.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;44747852]Games like farmville are popular because they're on platforms like Smartphones and social media that are more ubiquitous than any console or gaming PC, where they can reach more potential users than AOL disks.[/QUOTE]
I know :p Sorry, I'm bad at sarcasm :p
Honestly I could care less about the acquisition at this point. I was very concerned at first but lets be honest here - Facebook owning Oculus and influencing their long term goals twoards some Facebook-sponsored VR MMO is going to do absolutely nothing to the fact that they will still deliver a kickass VR headset this or next year, and even a followup to that. Literally will do nothing to change those goals. And its not like it'll stop working for games and stuff once they start developing a facebook MMO of sorts. And it's not like at this point VR won't be so set in stone already that it won't matter what oculus does because they'll have plenty of competition (sony anyone?). And its not like Facebook has had the history of fucking over companies they bought - they actually have a really amazing history for that.
Facebook buys shit like instagram and guess what happened to instagram and its development? Pretty much nothing.
[QUOTE=uber.;44745365]Zuckerberg said that he's not planning to make any profit off a 2 billion dollar purchase and that's enough reason for me to stay alert. He didn't do this as a private person giving them the money with no strings attached. He bought the company as CEO of facebook.[/QUOTE]
That's not what he said, he said that the Facebook company itself (still a separate entity) is not going to try to profit off the hardware but instead the subsequent software.
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[QUOTE=pentium;44745379]For years we collectively hated Facebook for its social networking and gaming models.
Then when they bought Oculus suddenly people left and right are defending them like everything previous did not matter and that collective split in half. If they are going to do good with the rift like they say then they will have to prove people wrong.[/QUOTE]
Hating Facebook for Facebook games is idiotic, they don't make the games
[QUOTE=Cheesedragon;44747566]Do people seriously think that Oculus will be able to achieve it's goals freely without Facebook, as a massive, inept, evil profit-driven company, finding a way to fuck them over completely?[/QUOTE]
I should just start banning people for being so inexcusably naive and uninformed this late after the bandwagon died out
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but this was still way dumber
[QUOTE=Midas22;44744606][I]Opinions![/I][/QUOTE]
at least now we know which people are stupid by default
[QUOTE=PredGD;44744617]they're being incredibly optimistic. even Runescape has [I]only[/I] 200 million registered users, good luck making an MMO with 1 billion active ones[/QUOTE]
How about the most easily accessible "massively multiplayer online games" like just simply Facebook games, how many active users do those have? (Very different demographic of users though..)
I mean, if you manage to make something "cheaper and better" like they said, which by all means should attract the most users, then.. I don't know really, that's an aspiring goal at least. But since it's Facebook we're talking about I'm smelling a shitty game..
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;44748916]How about the most easily accessible "massively multiplayer online games" like just simply Facebook games, how many active users do those have? (Very different demographic of users though..)
I mean, if you manage to make something "cheaper and better" like they said, which by all means should attract the most users, then.. I don't know really, that's an aspiring goal at least. But since it's Facebook we're talking about I'm smelling a shitty game..[/QUOTE]
candy crush saga is currently the most played facebook app, at roughly 6.7 million users.
I think this isn't like they're going to sell you a game that explicitly uses the oculus, definitely not something people would have to [b]buy into[/b].
I think their goal in this statement is to turn facebook into a far more interactive creature, on par with being an MMO. People without the higher experience of oculus will still be able to connect to it like a regular game. It isn't like MMOs can't be experienced through a normal screen, it's just that if they tailor it to work with oculus, it would open up an unprecedented shitton of possibilities for what the service can do.
people still shitting their pants about "oh no forced advertisements :((((" may have something right, though it's not happening to oculus or your hopes and dreams with how it will interact with other games. Facebook's environment will likely have ads. We've had games with real-world style billboards that update over time with new advertisements.
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Hell, companies even built their own presence within secondlife as it is. I think that kind of ad presence, making interesting things that literally draw you in instead of shove themselves in your face, would be the way to go in a virtual environment. Promote tourism, so to speak.
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There's no way they are going to be able to make a 1 billion person MMO, literally no way in hell, I know that John Carmack works software, but everyone else is hardware. They are either trying to really hype shit up with no actual plans, or they are vastly underestimating the incredible difficulty in making an MMO of ANY size.
You're telling me Facebook is going to pour money into VR [i]and[/i] online play? That sounds good to me.
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So are we going to have New Cap City in the next 20 years?
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