Falskaar: DLC-Sized Skyirm Mod Creator Gets Hired by Bungie - Polidicks

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;42986791]I remember when he promised Skyrim would have a dynamic economy and you could burn down lumber mills and wheat farms to raise the prices of each.[/QUOTE] to be fair it's a terrible idea, nobody cares about wheat or wood they're like 2 of the least important materials in the game :v: things like that are usually cut because people realize that no matter how good it sounds on paper it's not really going to improve the game for the amount of effort you'd put in to make it

[QUOTE=Elspin;42987473]to be fair it's a terrible idea, nobody cares about wheat or wood they're like 2 of the least important materials in the game :v: things like that are usually cut because people realize that no matter how good it sounds on paper it's not really going to improve the game for the amount of effort you'd put in to make it[/QUOTE] It's the kind of thing you'd want to see in a Mount & Blade game tbh, not TES.

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Its really great actually. I doubt he got hired because of his direct skill in the field (he is an associate designer, not any kind of huge position after all), but more or less his drive. The mod itself is nice but nothing amazing (see the screenshot on the first page), but he has a talent few modders rarely do: enough drive and ambition to fully release and push something out with pride and passion, even if the result isn't amazing yet. A lot of game devs put a large hiring focus on drive/passion because everyone can get to the point where they will be highly skilled, the only thing everyone doesn't get is if you are actually driven to learn and driven to make a career out of yourself. For sure investing into driven people that you know will make it to that point vs. people who won't. I remember him being active on the forums all the time on constantly going on about him wanting to be apart of bethesda. I'm kind of glad he didn't go that route, because I don't think Beth is really a great company to work under yet at this point (they are still stuck using the same fundamental base technology and awful design practices they used to make morrowind in 2002). I imagine this entire time the mod creator has done NOTHING but work on his mod, promote the hell out of it, and apply to game dev studios for years. It has paid off! And its really kind of inpirational. I also am pretty sure he never went to college considering he is pretty young by game dev standards (I think around 19-20). [editline]26th November 2013[/editline] Kind of makes me wish I wasn't doing school right now. Only one year to go but doing school has taken almost all the drive out of me working on my own modding projects and some indie game ideas I have floating in my head. I don't even really care about my grades at this point, but the workload to maintain a minimum GPA at the level I am at right now is very time consuming. All to get a piece of paper that does nothing but get me past HR (I've really enjoyed my time at college so far and learned a lot, but I'm at the point where I've gotten all I need to out of my education but still have to grind these last few semesters out to get the diploma when I'd really rather jump in feet first focusing on stuff like working on my mods) [editline]26th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=No Party Hats;42986753]Yeah, why? Howard isn't a bad guy or anything, he's just similar to molyneux where he hypes shit to an 11[/QUOTE] The main problem with howard is that his design principles are still stuck in 1999, and the only reason why Morrowind became a kind-of-classic was because he had a ton of other design talent helping it work out good for the 2002 release (that left after morrowind). Every elder scrolls game to date is proof of this - a lot of the things being modernized about the series are stuff that doesn't actually improve the overall open-world experience best case (AKA its just fluff) or actually hurts it worst case. His creative direction is very shallow and doesn't really show a lot of knowledge into where games are going or what the pinnacle of an open world game should be like or even addresses questions like "What kind of experience does the player need when they go through this world?" despite doing the same genre of game over and over for almost 20 years now. This wasn't so bad in Morrowind because the standards morrowind had for its time when it came out weren't all that different from the 1999 days of how the best RPG should play like. They also had other great creative direction talent working on that game. I love the elder scrolls series, but honestly the only reason why it gets away with all the shit it does (not even from a bug standpoint) is because nobody else bothers to make any other game like it. Which is why I'm excited for Witcher 3, because they might actually pull off what Elder Scrolls has been trying to do since Morrowind and failing at it. That said I don't hate todd howard. He has a lot of really good development sensabilities. I love that their mantra for the series is to reinvent itself for every release, by starting from square one for every game, that's a very healthy development practice and it makes each game in the series feel truly standout. Even if it would work better for them if they had a tech and design to really make such an approach really work out good without issues... I also really like the whole game-jam stuff they do where the last week of development or so they just tell the team to go wild and do whatever they want for the game. I'd love for them to push that even further and let the team go at for a full month at the end of a project. Its just to me, as someone who is a long time fan of the series and has an ear and ambition for design, it just really seems like Todd keeps making the same mistakes over and over in every game he is in charge of doing creative direction over and keeps making additions+improvements that don't actually improve the foundation of what they have - a foundation that needs a serious reworking. I'd love to work at bethesda because they are creating the kinds of experiences I'd love to help facilitate, and I would love to just step in and ask the questions that need to be asked. Morrowind is a flawed game from a game mechanics standpoint but that's not unexpected for the time it came out in. Its an extremely promising and deep game from an experiences standpoint though, and I honestly think if you are making an open world game you need to be asking more questions along the lines of "what kind of experience do we need the player to have" and basing your entire design foundation around those questions instead of "what kinds of things can we have the player run into or do". Open world games are far from being perfected. And it frustrates me to see Todd not really getting any closer to making them better and different as a game style compared to just a linear style despite working on them for almost 20 years.

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;42985767]woah look at all this detail he put into it [thumb] http://filesmelt.com/dl/woahdetail.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] I don't know why, but the map doesn't render any of the trees, rocks or other landmarks that are actually there for some reason. It really does look better from the ground.

[QUOTE=343N;42986519]Tbh, ratings for me determine good or bad posts and if I perceive a post as bad, I want to improve it.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://operachic.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c83e69e2017d3cdfb82b970c-320wi[/IMG] you just have to don't give a fuck about those ratings. Don't go all ad populum on your ratings bro. If nobody gives an explanation then assume they are bullshiting you or [I]bandwagoning [/I](Look at my damn flag) Back on topic: I hope this guy gets a nice job. Many modders should also get a job. Dez0wave for example and his team are making, literally, a new game with the XRAY engine in Stalker SHOC. LA is years away from any other mod made for the STALKER series (Im not saying MISERY is a POS, but they can't be compared). Paradox Interactive also does this. I mean, look at the team that is working on East vs West. They are mostly ex modders. Same applies for Darkest Hour.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;42986899]Well it wasn't hype, it was a straight-up lie. I suppose lying is a type of hype, though.[/QUOTE] that's what the dude was aiming for with the game though, that's something that was on the cutting board and Todd was really excited for something like that in a video game. Molyneux is the same way, he gets these superb ideas for his games and some of them dont come out, but he'll let them slip way too early anyways just because he's so passionate about what he does and honestly hopes that will get in

[QUOTE=343N;42986507]Am I getting too aggressive about it? Or am I just posting stupid, completely unnecessary things? I can't tell right now[/QUOTE] I hate to sound this inappropriate but Stop taking Rating so god damned seriously. Peoples opinions are different from one another.

[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;42986496]do people actually take ratings that seriously? jesus[/QUOTE] You can even get banned when you are dumbrating someone 4 times in a row!

[QUOTE=Paramud;42986133]Looks like he'll fit right in at Bungie.[/QUOTE] If you honestly think that low level of detail is representative of Bungie, its clear you've never played a Bungie game. [editline]30th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=343N;42985772]i think bungie are better than valve honestly, but valve aren't too far behind.[/QUOTE] I love how this gets stormed with dumbs. "YOU DONT THINK VALVE IS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IN GAME DEVELOPER FORM?! WHAT ARE U STUPID! OMG BUNGIE IS CRAP COMPAED TO THE DEVELOPMNENT GODS THAT R VALVE!" Fuck it I think Bungie's way better. Valve's good, yeah, but I've consistently gotten great experiences out of Bungie games. Not to mention they're a hell of a lot more involved in their community. [I]But no, if you don't think Valve's the best company to ever exist, you're dumb and wrong[/I]. Grow up.

[QUOTE=Heroku;42986331]Yeah 343N just turned 13 or something.[/QUOTE] No excuse for bad posting [editline]30th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skyward;43027240]Fuck it I think Bungie's way better. Valve's good, yeah, but I've consistently gotten great experiences out of Bungie games.[/QUOTE] It's more the fact that I think Bungie is a piece of shit game studio and I haven't liked their games since Halo 1. "HE SAID VALVE MEANING THAT'S THE ONLY REASON NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE BUNGIE IN THE RATINGS"

[QUOTE=gk99;43029821]No excuse for bad posting [editline]30th November 2013[/editline] It's more the fact that I think Bungie is a piece of shit game studio and I haven't liked their games since Halo 1. "HE SAID VALVE MEANING THAT'S THE ONLY REASON NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE BUNGIE IN THE RATINGS"[/QUOTE] Are you joking? I'm stating my opinion on what I like, what am I going to be called dumb for then? Having an opinion? Yeah, no. If people don't agree with me they disagree. They don't call me out on being 'dumb'. And that whole post comprises of that one opinion of mine, so whether you like my opinion or not I shouldn't be called dumb over it. It's like saying: 'You like games from X more than Y? What a fucking dumbass you are'. If you're saying that I'm shitposting because I state my opinion on two companies, then you might aswell call yourself a shitposter cause you're stating an opinion on me.

[QUOTE=gk99;43029821]No excuse for bad posting [/QUOTE] How in the unholy name of fuck was anything 343N said "bad posting"?! He said he likes Bungie, so he's shitposting? "Oh I like Bungie more than Valve" "OH MY GOD YU LIKE BUNGIE WAT A SHITPOSTER HOW DARE YOUY COME INTO A THREAD ABOUT BUNGIE AND SAY YOU LIKE THEM WHAT A BAD POST" [QUOTE=gk99;43029821] It's more the fact that I think Bungie is a piece of shit game studio [B]and I haven't liked their games since Halo 1.[/B][/QUOTE] "My opinion is right, 343N's opinion is dumb" That's all I'm hearing from you. If you can offer any reason for Bungie being shit other than "I didn't like the other games" then go right ahead. Until then, you're just showing me you don't know fuck all about what you're saying and are treating you opinions as stone cold fact- which they assuredly are not.

[QUOTE=Skyward;43031096]How in the unholy name of fuck was anything 343N said "bad posting"?! He said he likes Bungie, so he's shitposting? "Oh I like Bungie more than Valve" "OH MY GOD YU LIKE BUNGIE WAT A SHITPOSTER HOW DARE YOUY COME INTO A THREAD ABOUT BUNGIE AND SAY YOU LIKE THEM WHAT A BAD POST" "My opinion is right, 343N's opinion is dumb" That's all I'm hearing from you. If you can offer any reason for Bungie being shit other than "I didn't like the other games" then go right ahead. Until then, you're just showing me you don't know fuck all about what you're saying and are treating you opinions as stone cold fact- which they assuredly are not.[/QUOTE] I like halo and at this point 343n should stop purely on the basis that it's stupid off topic and unneeded drama over [B]ratings[/B] of all things seriously, whining about [B]ratings[/B]? What are we? 8 years old? Jesus Christ, grow some fucking balls and stop please.

I'm not sure modding Skyrim would be generalisable to the field of level design at large. Its system is remarkably primitive, with all its tiles and heightmaps.

My first post wasn't really offtopic, since a poster above mine said that he was Valve material and I posted that 'i think bungie are better than valve honestly', in somewhat of a reply to him. So, yea. But like I said I actually [I]care[/I] about ratings and there's no point in me posting if I'm going to get called dumb for something that [I]isnt[/I] even dumb, cause I base my posts on ratings. If a post of mine is extremely dumb, I won't do it again, but the fact that people are calling that dumb is insane. [editline]1st December 2013[/editline] And I know they're just ratings, but you people are acting like 'stop getting mad over ratings' when you guys are kinda the ones causing it. I know I should get over it but you guys act like bullies, honestly. 'yea we pushed you to the floor for no reason, get over it'. Same goes with this, you rate me dumb to hell and back and then you tell me to get over it.

[QUOTE=343N;43031243]My first post wasn't really offtopic, since a poster above mine said that he was Valve material and I posted that 'i think bungie are better than valve honestly', in somewhat of a reply to him. So, yea. But like I said I actually [I]care[/I] about ratings and there's no point in me posting if I'm going to get called dumb for something that [I]isnt[/I] even dumb, cause I base my posts on ratings. If a post of mine is extremely dumb, I won't do it again, but the fact that people are calling that dumb is insane.[/QUOTE] I've had that happen to me tons of times and I don't bitch about it, complaining like this is just bad posting and only gives you even more dumbs. ratings are very meaningless, get over it [QUOTE=343N;43031243]And I know they're just ratings, but you people are acting like 'stop getting mad over ratings' when you guys are kinda the ones causing it. I know I should get over it but you guys act like bullies, honestly. 'yea we pushed you to the floor for no reason, get over it'. Same goes with this, you rate me dumb to hell and back and then you tell me to get over it.[/QUOTE] this isn't even slightly close to bullying, it's just embarrassing really. You're only making things worse, it's totally off topic now.

If it's meaningless, why do people bother with ratings then? Ratings are meaningless to [I]you[/I], not to me.

[QUOTE=Skyward;43031096]How in the unholy name of fuck was anything 343N said "bad posting"?! He said he likes Bungie, so he's shitposting?[/QUOTE] Both he and you are acting like ratings matter, for one thing.

[QUOTE=Paramud;43031318]Both he and you are acting like ratings matter, for one thing.[/QUOTE] They matter to me? What am I not allowed to see that ratings have meaning? 'stop acting like they matter.' Well then I might aswell just say 'Stop acting like your post matters'. Same thing, might not mean it matters to me, but it most likely matters to you

Good for him, I played Falskaar and I didn't really like it but whatever. P.S. I don't know about you guys but I like high numbers so I rated all of 343N's posts dumb.

[QUOTE=Paramud;43031318]Both he and you are acting like ratings matter, for one thing.[/QUOTE] But they sorta do? As much as a post anyways. Being rated dumb is the same as being told you're dumb via a post. But apparently the first doesn't matter? Sure, I don't care if people rate or call me dumb, whether you type or rate it its all equally irrelevant, but it doesn't make the fact that they're calling a perfectly reasonable post dumb any less stupid.

[QUOTE=343N;43031341]They matter to me? What am I not allowed to see that ratings have meaning? 'stop acting like they matter.' Well then I might aswell just say 'Stop acting like your post matters'. Same thing, might not mean it matters to me, but it most likely matters to you[/QUOTE] you're even taking it elsewhere [QUOTE=343N;43031394]"Both he and you are acting like ratings matter, for one thing." Are you joking? Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean it doesn't matter to me either.. People are posting this and it makes me feel like some of SH don't give a fuck for others views on things[/QUOTE] You really are getting pissed off about this aren't you? Seriously, you're never going to stop with this are you? [editline]30th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skyward;43031361]But they sorta do? As much as a post anyways. Being rated dumb is the same as being told you're dumb via a post. But apparently the first doesn't matter? Sure, I don't care if people rate or call me dumb, whether you type or rate it its all equally irrelevant, but it doesn't make the fact that they're calling a perfectly reasonable post dumb any less stupid.[/QUOTE] you know what is dumb? making huge drama over it, it's only going to make you way more angry and people are just going to shoot you down.

[QUOTE=J!NX;43032045] You really are getting pissed off about this aren't you? Seriously, you're never going to stop with this are you?[/QUOTE] Nor are you going to stop complain about how he's complaining about his ratings. You want him to stop? Quit antagonizing him. You talk a lot about how it shouldn't matter, but you seem to be making a big fucking deal out of it. [editline]30th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;43032045] you know what is dumb? making huge drama over it, it's only going to make you way more angry and people are just going to shoot you down.[/QUOTE] Oh the irony

[QUOTE=343N;43031341]They matter to me? What am I not allowed to see that ratings have meaning? 'stop acting like they matter.' Well then I might aswell just say 'Stop acting like your post matters'. Same thing, might not mean it matters to me, but it most likely matters to you[/QUOTE] Complaining about boxes will only get you more boxes. You'll look back at this moment when you're old and possibly wise, and regard it as the moment Facepunch taught you a valuable life lesson. Now please stop shitting on the thread, it's starting to smell bad.

Pony-Halo guy needs to stop posting for a bit and take a swim back to reality.

[QUOTE=343N;43031341]They matter to me? What am I not allowed to see that ratings have meaning? 'stop acting like they matter.' Well then I might aswell just say 'Stop acting like your post matters'. Same thing, might not mean it matters to me, but it most likely matters to you[/QUOTE] if you're gonna freak out and then post your freakout over ratings you're gonna get destroyed stop

[QUOTE=DeEz;43032532]if you're gonna freak out and then post your freakout over ratings you're gonna get destroyed stop[/QUOTE] 5$ worth spending

my god will you people get over it. big woop if someone cares about what rating they get, stop shitting up the thread You're all acting like a bunch of children, especially wasting $5 for a stupid title

[QUOTE=Paramud;42986133]Looks like he'll fit right in at Bungie.[/QUOTE] Probably just a joke but I've always thought that Bungie made fantastic quality maps for their games (both singleplayer and multiplayer). Skyboxes are always orgasmic, too.