[QUOTE=Lazor;39127508][img]http://i.imgur.com/1VhXm.jpg[/img]
the windows rt experience
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wow cool the gif didn't actually download on my phone and i can't find it. have the video instead: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTtf_BgFS08[/url]
featuring lag that must have taken effort to create since they haven't existed in any word processor since the beginning of word processing[/QUOTE]
well actually it was fixed
[QUOTE=Lazor;39127653]doesn't matter if it's fixed, it's pretty exemplary of the development and corporate problems that plagued development. Whoever decided that shit was ready to ship should be fired. The RT Tablet shipping with a desktop mode just for Office was a supremely moronic decision that only happened because of internal politics.
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like seriously, it was they ear of our lord 2012 and microsoft shipped a flag ship product that lagged if you typed to fast. Microsoft has no idea what they're doing.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/XIT4p.gif[/img]
here's a Google Nexus 10 showing off its amazing browser performance.
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it's called bugs, and shit like that happens
you aren't even trying to address my point
seems like a nice marketing thing to me actually
it's a tablet with a fully featured office suite, better than anything on ipad or android
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desktop mode was a bad idea
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but microsoft couldn't afford losing any more time.
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they were late enough
and yet that and 1.5 billion dollars of marketing clearly isn't compelling enough for anybody to care. also Microsoft is releasing Office on iOS this year lmao
it's this, this is the reason everything microsoft tries is a muddled mess at best:
[img]http://www.bonkersworld.net/images/2011.06.27_organizational_charts.png[/img]
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Windows 8 and it's associated hardware is like a singularity of all of Microsoft's bad decision making and corporate issues.
yay let's take rumors as facts
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and no it's a beginning of something new
the singularity of "bad decision making and corporate issues" was Longhorn (aka Vista)
substantiated rumors, at that
it had many new featured that just couldn't be integrated
shit would work on a test lab in some place, but would totally fuck up when added to the full version
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it got so bad that ms rebooted it into what became vista
to be fair, microsoft is a singularity of microsoft's bad decision making
they're trying to improve at least
if they were trying Steve Balmer would be gone
[QUOTE=Lazor;39129464]if they were trying Steve Balmer would be gone[/QUOTE]
[url=http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/057/4/b/ceos_gone_wild_by_rware-d3af4f1.jpg]Too bad that would never happen.[/url]
if he's not out within a year i'm calling it curtains for MSFT. there would be no hope
Even if Windows 8 was the biggest failure in the history of computing ever, I don't see Microsoft going out of business any time soon.
i never said it would be soon, but the decline would start here.
they'd probably get taken over by the office division at some point. they practically have the entire company by the balls anyways.
I'm using Win8 now. I'm loving it.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39129362]they're trying to improve at least[/QUOTE]
Microsoft's way of trying seems to be "throwing ridiculous amounts of money at the marketing department, and pretending to be the [I]new[/I] Apple".
They should've focused on what they're actually good at, while improving niggles here & there, instead of starting with a clean slate in a somewhat young market.
Microsoft just can't do [I]"new and revolutionary"[/I] the same way as many other big companies that everyone knows nowadays, they're only good at [I]"tried and true"[/I].
So they should stick to that and slowly branch out instead.
are you serious
they did that when the iphone came out, and they completely lost what little marketshare they had with windows mobile
they even came out with tablets before apple did, and it didn't work
sticking to 'what they do best' will kill them
they will stagnate and die if they don't take any risks.
apple did that when steve jobs left, and when he returned, they were 90 days away from bankruptcy.
by doing 'what they do best' all the time, they'll just get left behind and lose all the market, even pc.
they need to take risks.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39129258]yay let's take rumors as facts
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and no it's a beginning of something new
the singularity of "bad decision making and corporate issues" was Longhorn (aka Vista)[/QUOTE]
Win7 as it exists now would not exist if MS hadn't dropped longhorn in it's entirety and rewritten most of the kernel code at the time. If anything, it was the best business decision they ever made, albeit a costly choice.
it only cost them 5 years and tons of money
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and to be honest, [URL="http://www.zdnet.com/windows-longhorn-still-the-most-exciting-windows-ui-to-date-7000007363/"]what longhorn was supposed to be[/URL] seems much more exciting than what we got and still have instead
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39132329]it only cost them 5 years and tons of money
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and to be honest, [URL="http://www.zdnet.com/windows-longhorn-still-the-most-exciting-windows-ui-to-date-7000007363/"]what longhorn was supposed to be[/URL] seems much more exciting than what we got and still have instead[/QUOTE]
It wasn't practical for them to finish. It would've been a bigger failure with users than Vista was.
well yeah they fucked it up
but if they didn't fuck it up, and in those 5 years between xp and vista managed to make a proper os just like the one they showed in those mockups, it would've been great
however without clear focus and interaction between development teams it was doomed
Not to take up the discussion once again, because really, every argument has pretty much been made. But still; earlier in the discussion, I stated that most people would probably prefer touch to a touch pad in many cases, and a few people contested that. I just read this article on engadget, and I think it supports very well what I (and a few other people) have been saying: [url]http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/kirk-skaugen-interview/[/url]
Here's the important part:
[quote=Intel Test Labs]His response was that in the company's back-room studies, when they gave testers fifty tasks to complete using Windows 8, nearly 80 percent of the time, they chose touch over keyboard, mouse or trackpad.[/quote]
This doesn't mean all you people should like touch (as you can see 20% still reached for the touch pad), but it definitely shows that there's a majority that would rather use touch to operate Windows 8. I don't see why Intel would have any real reason to try enforcing touchscreens, beyond the fact that their data actually showed that people preferred it, but if you see any reason why they would try screwing around with testing to make touchscreens seem more appealing, please do make an argument.
And whether shipping is the same as selling or not, this shows that there's some kind of interest for Windows 8: [url]http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/microsoft-moves-another-20-million-licenses-over-holiday-season/[/url]
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