Eh, I'm running windows 8 on my laptop, and honestly it's nowhere near as bad as Vista.
Ok, so I much prefer 7, but 8 isn't all that bad; it runs nicely, the tiles are (pretty much) optional to use -- as in, you can function nicely without them -- and honestly it just feels... Nicer, if that makes any sense.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;39057591]I love the people rating me dumb without offering to rebuttle as to why the new Start Menu is bad besides "change is bad. It has tiles"[/QUOTE]
The argument is and always has been that it's not that change is bad, in this case the change is just completely unnecessary.
It doesn't matter if some system could be *slightly* better, the mere fact that you change it from the status-quot to be *slightly* better, is and of itself, an inconvenience. Never make change for the sake of making change, the start menu was not so dysfunctional that it required a complete concept overhaul.
[I]Is this real life?[/I]
[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]
in my calculations windows 8 is less popular because laptops and computers with windows 8 are limited,that's why windows 8 is being less popular.discs of windows 8 are limited too,they are still working of how they would update it.If you put a pirated windows 8 in your system,what will happen?[U]EPIC FAIL!!![/U]So that is why???
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;39059046]Are you making use of some of the new features that the start screen actually offers? Like organizing and so on? Making groups and so on made it so much more efficient for me.[/QUOTE]
Is this functionally different from making folders on your desktop and putting shortcuts in them, or does it amount to the same thing?
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;39059927]Is this functionally different from making folders on your desktop and putting shortcuts in them, or does it amount to the same thing?[/QUOTE]
It's pretty different. They're just a bit further from other groups and have some text above it.
[QUOTE=JonBons;39059283]My main problem with W8 is how real people will use it.
This video explains how an average user will attempt to use W8.
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that's not how real people use windows 8. I see people in best buy go up to the computers with no prior knowledge of windows 8 and figure it out in 10 seconds.
[QUOTE=redBadger;39059982]that's not how real people use windows 8. I see people in best buy go up to the computers with no prior knowledge of windows 8 and figure it out in 10 seconds.[/QUOTE]
Hell, this Christmas I chipped in and my uncle and I got my grandpa a new laptop, it's a Dell ultrabook with Windows 8. He figured out the whole thing in about 30 minutes. Some people have more trouble with technology than others.
That being said, Windows 8 isn't a necessary upgrade over Windows 7, but the new Start Screen is nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be.
I would use metro on a TV, other than that however...........
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;39057325]Maybe that's because people don't want windows 7 with tablet tiles.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, computers are made dangerously casual, like users are brainless kids who need cat sized boxes telling what they do.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;39060412]Agreed, computers are made dangerously casual, like users are brainless kids who need cat sized boxes telling what they do.[/QUOTE]
Most people do need cat sized boxes telling what they do, if you haven't noticed. For one reason or another, people don't like to think.
(also I like Windows 8, it's quite nice)
[QUOTE=Swilly;39057337]Fix it? There is already 5 or 6 fixes out there.[/QUOTE]
What's the point, I've already got Windows 7.
[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]
I'd maybe get it for my mom or something. That's pretty much it though.
[QUOTE=Del91;39060577]What's the point, I've already got Windows 7.
[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]
I'd maybe get it for my mom or something. That's pretty much it though.[/QUOTE]
Performance and security reasons?
[QUOTE=kill3r;39057363]It's not that Windows 8 is bad, it's just pointless if you already have 7..[/QUOTE]
Agreed, I moved to Windows 8 this year through a $15 upgrade loophole after being on XP for years. It is a very welcome change since I was about to go to Windows 7 but found that cheap loophole. I really like Windows 8 very much compared to Windows XP.
[QUOTE=Swilly;39060604]Performance and security reasons?[/QUOTE]
I've got AV, firewalls, etc, and my computer runs just fine. It's fast, and I can run just about anything. Windows 7 is good enough for me, for now.
Maybe I'm a little old fashioned, but I sort of wish "flat" UI design would be dragged into an alley and beaten to death with barbed wire wrapped around a baseball bat.
As a win7 user I don't feel that I need to upgrade. Win8 offers nothing that's useful to me. I will skip this one and update to windows9 instead.
Like Mingebox I am also not a fan of flat UIs, imo they make the product look unfinished. The contrast of various controls is bad on my eyes. I prefer some fake bevels on the borders of controls to separate them one from another.
I don't hate the changes in win8 or anything and I could get used if I switched but I just don't feel any need to do so.
windows eight is shit and made for tablets and rips off apple, which is shit.
fuck off forever windows eight.
[QUOTE=Pubichair;39061735]windows eight is shit and made for tablets and rips off apple, which is shit.
fuck off forever windows eight.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, in what way does it rip off Apple? :v:
[QUOTE=zerotwelve;39057367]You don't have to use the tiles. The start screen is 200x better than the start menu, in every possible way. [B]It looks so much better aesthetically[/B], and the whole OS as a whole runs leaps and bounds better than Windows 7.
But no. People don't seem to accept change. Windows 8 is nothing like Vista was, maybe it'll just take time for people to realise.[/QUOTE]
Is there any reason the tile bullshit is "200x better" than the Start Menu other than "it looks purty"?
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;39061843]Is there any reason the tile bullshit is "200x better" than the Start Menu other than "it looks purty"?[/QUOTE]
It's easier to organize and for me, it's way easier to use than the start menu for that exact reason.
More icons on screen too, etc.
I hate the Aesthetics of the desktop, the metro UI, (I'd rather have a genuine start menu, not some third party UI tweak bull shit) and the over all simplification of Windows (the ribbons make things hard to find). Why do they use the same icons as Vista, I thought it was meant to be revolutionary? Also why don't any of the touch PCs have a dedicated graphics card, I understand why some don't, but you'd expect 1 or 2 of them to have one?
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;39057407]People are afraid of change and this chart proves it.[/QUOTE]You can't simplify things like that.
if they had windows 7 ui with windows 8's under the hood improvements it would be the perfect operating system
I pretty much just use the start menu to look at the weather, email, and news. I use it a few times a day, but I still prefer the old desktop.
[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kasuga Ayumu;39061967]if they had windows 7 ui with windows 8's under the hood improvements it would be the perfect operating system[/QUOTE]
You can if you pay $5 to stardock for the start8 thing, which adds the old start menu back and automatically boots to the desktop.
I don't think people realize that you don't use Metro 24/7. I basically see it for maybe 5 seconds everyday.
Can someone sum up the whole start menu thingy? My friend and my dad are refusing to upgrade because of this but I've heard that there is a classic start menu along with a fullscreen one.
[QUOTE=LaughingStock;39062010]Can someone sum up the whole start menu thingy? My friend and my dad are refusing to upgrade because of this but I've heard that there is a classic start menu along with a fullscreen one.[/QUOTE]
There is no classical menu, you can get one out of million third party programs though. Some free, some cost.
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;39061843]Is there any reason the tile bullshit is "200x better" than the Start Menu other than "it looks purty"?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/11/reflecting-on-your-comments-on-the-start-screen.aspx[/url]
TL;DR:
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[QUOTE=frankie penis;39057345]I think it's also partially due to the reason that people don't want to upgrade an OS every 2-3 years. I mean look how long it took people to change over from XP to 7 (many still haven't either).[/QUOTE]
Page stretch here.
I upgraded to W7 this last year. I had no reason to upgrade off XP before than, and now, I have no reason to upgrade off W7 to W8
[QUOTE=LaughingStock;39062010]Can someone sum up the whole start menu thingy? My friend and my dad are refusing to upgrade because of this but I've heard that there is a classic start menu along with a fullscreen one.[/QUOTE]
People get butthurt that a screen that makes it easier to launch applications is somehow terrible. Read my previous post to see why they changed it.
I don't understand why the people who like Windows 8 are trying to convince the people who hate Windows 8 that it's not such a bad thing. It's their opinion. I mean I hate it, I have my reasons, so do other people.
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