Virgin-Australia considers all men to be potentional paedophiles and prevents men from sitting near - Polidicks

[QUOTE=RobbL;37181086]Why are people denying this is even misandry (Dori)?[/QUOTE] i don't know i put some arguments maybe you can read them

[QUOTE=gra;37163982]it's funny how mad all of you guys are getting about this when women are discriminated against, in ways that are extremely worse than switching seats on a plane, every day.[/QUOTE] Example?

[QUOTE=thisispain;37174348]of course they are, i just wanted to vary my posts a bit posting the same old "i hate you because" and "no you're wrong" all the time gets old[/QUOTE] Well uh, if you didn't have a reason to not post 'comics' like that before, you uh, have one now. Please, refrain from it in future.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37188929]i don't know i put some arguments maybe you can read them[/QUOTE] You haven't posted any arguments, just that you believe this isn't favouring women over men. How does that work? Of course they're favoring women over men if this policy only applies to men. Thisispain, I know you always try to deny it but misandry does exist. Just like misogyny does. This is a prime example of it.

[QUOTE=Eric95;37189980]You haven't posted any arguments, just that you believe this isn't favouring women over men. How does that work? Of course they're favoring women over men if this policy only applies to men. Thisispain, I know you always try to deny it but misandry does exist. Just like misogyny does. This is a prime example of it.[/QUOTE] please explain how this company is misandristic. they instated this policy, and are now reviewing it, because of customer feedback. this policy is more of a reflection of their customer's views than their own, and it is within their best interests to make their customers comfortable. I wouldn't be comfortable seeing a man sandwiched between two little boys who are strangers to him misogyny is a negative attitude toward the female sex and gender. misandry is a negative attitude toward the male sex and gender. the effects of institutionalised misogyny can be seen everywhere. I have yet to see a solid example of institutionalised misandry this policy is misogyny biting men in the ass. heteronormative binary gender roles place men at the top. men are thought to be the predators and brave protectors of women. women are thought to be weak and servile to men. nobody raised in a society with this set of gender roles would think twice about a grown woman sitting in between two little boys because they are not thought of as predators. this is a result of rigid gender roles which favor men over women

[QUOTE=Nikota;37163720]A child would be a terrible fuck. They'd be way too goddamn tight and they'd fucking cry about it. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Dumb creepy joke" - Craptasket))[/highlight][/QUOTE] I don't see how this would be considered creepy; after all he expressed why he [i]wouldn't[/i] fuck a child.

holy shit misandry arguments are the worst both sides are mad kinds of irritating

It's an extremely silly policy but at the same time I doubt that anybody here would fight for the right to sit next to an unknown child on an airplane. I think the issue here is that when stuff like this happens someone is so ready to shout misandry even if it's more or less a non-issue. This pisses off those who espouse forward thinking policies towards women's rights because they know how many places in modern society women get screwed over and think "How can they complain about this when women have gotten it worse for the entirety of history and still get it worse today?" Then things go back and forth about irrelevant bullshit for a while until eventually we arrive at no conclusion. Of course everyone has a right to complain about this and probably should. Like I said above, it's a pretty silly and unnecessary policy. But realize that there are probably much more important things to fight when it comes to sexual discrimination, and most of those things do indeed hurt women more than men.

I personally don't think that discrimination should be tolerated. Who cares if women have it worse? Why should the small number of men who are sexually discriminated against, just put up with it because men in general have it easy? I've mentioned this in other threads, I have a friend who trained in childcare and he's been out of full-time work for about 2 years now. He's been doing volunteering and as many short-term jobs as he can, but that's pretty hard to get as well. It's not impossible for men to get a job working with kids, but if a woman is being interviewed at the same time, she'll probably get it. Everybody knows that men are either unable to care for children, or pedophiles. He's been told that it's the same situation for women, especially in IT/engineering-related work, so he shouldn't make a fuss. I'm sure that makes him feel so much better.

Hey Virgin-Australia, how about you just make it so that children aren't flying unaccompanied, oh, wait, that makes too much sense.

So does this mean they will reassign me to sit with women, preferably hot women?

I don't really think this is much of a female supremacy bullshit problem and more about Australia being buttfuck retarded when it comes to prevention measures. Aren't they the ones who banned porn with small tits because small breasted woman would somehow turn men into confused pedophiles ? When it comes to that sort of dumb measures the downright abusive censorship on video games comes to mind. Nothing as brutally stupid as forcing a man to freaking move to another seat because he might be a pedophile, though.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;37193655]Hey Virgin-Australia, how about you just make it so that children aren't flying unaccompanied, oh, wait, that makes too much sense.[/QUOTE] But the parents could be pedophiles too?? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q-U2THOF00[/media]

Why don't they just make sure the flight attendants keep an eye out and make sure they don't see anyone molesting kids. Honestly, there aren't that many places you can hide on a plane.

[QUOTE=st0rmforce;37193597]I personally don't think that discrimination should be tolerated. Who cares if women have it worse? Why should the small number of men who are sexually discriminated against, just put up with it because men in general have it easy? I've mentioned this in other threads, I have a friend who trained in childcare and he's been out of full-time work for about 2 years now. He's been doing volunteering and as many short-term jobs as he can, but that's pretty hard to get as well. It's not impossible for men to get a job working with kids, but if a woman is being interviewed at the same time, she'll probably get it. Everybody knows that men are either unable to care for children, or pedophiles. He's been told that it's the same situation for women, especially in IT/engineering-related work, so he shouldn't make a fuss. I'm sure that makes him feel so much better.[/QUOTE] Yeah, some people seem to think that just because misandry isn't as widespread as misogyny that specific cases of it somehow aren't as serious. Arguably, being a victim of misandry could be worse in general than being a victim of misogyny seeing the amount of people in society who brush it off as nonsense or just don't treat it as seriously [editline]12th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Dori;37190209]please explain how this company is misandristic. they instated this policy, and are now reviewing it, because of customer feedback. this policy is more of a reflection of their customer's views than their own, and it is within their best interests to make their customers comfortable. I wouldn't be comfortable seeing a man sandwiched between two little boys who are strangers to him misogyny is a negative attitude toward the female sex and gender. misandry is a negative attitude toward the male sex and gender. the effects of institutionalised misogyny can be seen everywhere. I have yet to see a solid example of institutionalised misandry this policy is misogyny biting men in the ass. heteronormative binary gender roles place men at the top. men are thought to be the predators and brave protectors of women. women are thought to be weak and servile to men. nobody raised in a society with this set of gender roles would think twice about a grown woman sitting in between two little boys because they are not thought of as predators. this is a result of rigid gender roles which favor men over women[/QUOTE] If you take sexist advice from a sexist and act on it, that makes you a sexist. And even if that wasn't true and the company itself wasn't misandristic, the act of introducing this policy and the policy itself still is. Btw, I can't see how all men being suspected of being child molesters has anything to do with gender roles

[QUOTE=RobbL;37196669]Yeah, some people seem to think that just because misandry isn't as widespread as misogyny that specific cases of it somehow aren't as serious. Arguably, being a victim of misandry could be worse in general than being a victim of misogyny seeing the amount of people in society who brush it off as nonsense or just don't treat it as seriously [/QUOTE] not being able to sit next to unaccompanied minors on a specific airline is not comparable to not having control of your body and being treated like a pet across pretty much the entire world

[QUOTE=Dori;37202402]not being able to sit next to unaccompanied minors on a specific airline is not comparable to not having control of your body and being treated like a pet across pretty much the entire world[/QUOTE] Women have control of their body and for the most part aren't treated like pets How did you even come up with that, he never mentioned anything like it.

[QUOTE=RobbL;37196669] Btw, I can't see how all men being suspected of being child molesters has anything to do with gender roles[/QUOTE] great rebuttal. it's not as if I explained my reasoning in the very post you quoted [editline]12th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37202442] How did you even come up with that, he never mentioned anything like it.[/QUOTE] he said misandry is comparable to if not worse than misogyny [editline]1[/editline] it's cute how people always complain about me rating them dumb and dodging posts yet they do the exact same thing to me when I effortpost

[QUOTE=Dori;37190209]please explain how this company is misandristic. they instated this policy, and are now reviewing it, because of customer feedback. this policy is more of a reflection of their customer's views than their own, and it is within their best interests to make their customers comfortable.[/QUOTE] by this logic mass media portrayal of women (usually negative) is in the company's best interest since sex sells, and thus is not misogyny

[QUOTE=The Baconator;37202723]by this logic mass media portrayal of women (usually negative) is in the company's best interest since sex sells, and is not misogyny[/QUOTE] misogyny in mass media is not a policy and it's not under review [editline]1[/editline] the point I was making in the section you quoted was that this company didn't suddenly decide that they hate men and they think they're child rapists. all they did was make a stupid reactionary policy which they're clearly regretting [editline]2[/editline] mass media is constantly under attack for perpetuating misogyny, among many other things, yet you don't see them backing down do you? not a valid comparison at all

[QUOTE=Dori;37202402]not being able to sit next to unaccompanied minors on a specific airline is not comparable to not having control of your body and being treated like a pet across pretty much the entire world[/QUOTE] Nice bullshit, even if such treatment of women was actually prevalent as you say, I never suggested that all cases of misandry are worse than all cases of misogyny. Anyway I'm sure you know what I meant... for example a husband being abused by his wife is on average going to be taken less seriously than if it was the other way around. I can go even further and say that it is generally harder for men to come out about stuff like this and there's not as much support for them out there regarding domestic abuse.

[QUOTE=Dori;37190209]please explain how this company is misandristic. they instated this policy, and are now reviewing it, because of customer feedback. this policy is more of a reflection of their customer's views than their own, and it is within their best interests to make their customers comfortable. I wouldn't be comfortable seeing a man sandwiched between two little boys who are strangers to him misogyny is a negative attitude toward the female sex and gender. misandry is a negative attitude toward the male sex and gender. the effects of institutionalised misogyny can be seen everywhere. I have yet to see a solid example of institutionalised misandry this policy is misogyny biting men in the ass. heteronormative binary gender roles place men at the top. men are thought to be the predators and brave protectors of women. women are thought to be weak and servile to men. nobody raised in a society with this set of gender roles would think twice about a grown woman sitting in between two little boys because they are not thought of as predators. this is a result of rigid gender roles which favor men over women[/QUOTE] The customers thinking men are more likely to be molesters/pedophiles kind of is a negative attitude which then makes it misandry. If people think women aren't as likely of being molesters like men then they haven't been to Zimbabwe, Africa or just listen to everything they see on tv without even thinking for themselves.

[QUOTE=Dori;37202455] he said misandry is comparable to if not worse than misogyny [/QUOTE] But he's right. It doesn't need to be bad on the level of people being treated like animals to compare. [editline]edit:[/editline] Good to see you're arguing with ratings instead of actually presenting an argument.

Yes, I am a certified pedophile and let me tell you, when I molest children, I do it in crowded public places with nowhere to run away if I get caught. Airplanes are prime locations for gropin' kids.

[QUOTE=Dori;37202455]great rebuttal. it's not as if I explained my reasoning in the very post you quoted [/QUOTE] Yeah you said that men are seen as 'predators' which is pretty vague. What you probably meant though is that throughout most of history men have been seen as the breadwinners- the ones who go out hunting and bring back food, or go out working and bring back money. But how on earth do you make the connection between being a breadwinner and being a child molester?