Ginger bullying ‘is a crime of hatred’, says father of dead schoolgirl
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I dunno if I'm a terrible person or what, but typically if someone is more attractive, I care about them more + take them more seriously. I figure it's just how humans work, but it's also possible I'm a sociopath or something.
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022293]Huh? You misunderstand, clearly, the guy I quoted said "changing yourself because of idiots is a bad life choice", which is true, but changing yourself to get out of pain would be much better than killing yourself, because if changing yourself is a bad life choice, killing yourself is even worse.[/QUOTE]
your post kinda sounded like it was her fault for killing herself, which it isn't. people who are depressed to the point where they contemplate (or commit) suicide aren't in a rational state of mind. they couldn't simply just go and say "wow maybe i should deal with it," if it was that simple nobody would commit suicide.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022307]your post kinda sounded like it was her fault for killing herself, which it isn't. people who are depressed to the point where they contemplate (or commit) suicide aren't in a rational state of mind. they couldn't simply just go and say "wow maybe i should deal with it," if it was that simple nobody would commit suicide.[/QUOTE]
No, I was just saying that changing herself would've been a lot better than killing herself
[QUOTE=thisispain;43022301]lepers telling other lepers to go back to the leper colony[/QUOTE]
this isn't as conveniently applicable to the two of us as you might think it is.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022297]can't move me, i'm already 3 steps ahead of you guys
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[I]2 tabs, motherfuckers[/I][/QUOTE]
i got some sick posts drafted rn the blogosphere aint ready for this
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022315]No, I was just saying that changing herself would've been a lot better than killing herself[/QUOTE]
and how could she have done that in her state of mind? she was mentally fucked to the point where she killed herself, there's no way she could have thought up an alternative without help.
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022304]I dunno if I'm a terrible person or what, but typically if someone is more attractive, I care about them more + take them more seriously. I figure it's just how humans work, but it's also possible I'm a sociopath or something.[/QUOTE]
yea but we're talking about posts maybe between the time you think and the time you press "post" it might be a good idea to think about the text within that little box
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022328]and how could she have done that in her state of mind? she was mentally fucked to the point where she killed herself, there's no way she could have thought up an alternative without help.[/QUOTE]
that wasn't really my point, i never blamed her. stop trying to find reasons to argue you fuck
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022307]your post kinda sounded like it was her fault for killing herself, which it isn't.[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I'm being completely insensitive here but no matter your state of mind it was her that took her own life.
She may not have been in a mentally fit condition, but it was her that took her own life. The people who bullied her caused her depression, she caused her death.
[QUOTE=thisispain;43022331]yea but we're talking about posts maybe between the time you think and the time you press "post" it might be a good idea to think about the text within that little box[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=Mbbird;43022318]this isn't as conveniently applicable to the two of us as you might think it is.[/QUOTE]
you're right; leprosy is cure-able.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;43022334]Sorry if I'm being completely insensitive here but no matter your state of mind it was her that took her own life.
She may not have been in a mentally fit condition, but it was her that took her own life. The people who bullied her caused her depression, she caused her death.[/QUOTE]
she didn't cause her own death, her depression did. it led her to commit suicide.
it wasn't [I]her[/I] fault at all.
i don't understand the conflict here.
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022337]what[/QUOTE]
if you type in a post about how its a shame she killed herself because she was sexually attractive you should probably rethink your posting strategies and maybe consider how that comment will come across to others
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022352]she didn't cause her own death, her depression did. it led her to commit suicide.
it wasn't [I]her[/I] fault at all.[/QUOTE]
well i mean theoretically no one is at fault for anything because all anyone is is a sum of their experiences and the chemicals in their mind.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022352]she didn't cause her own death, her depression did. it led her to commit suicide.
it wasn't [I]her[/I] fault at all.[/QUOTE]
Sorry officer I didn't speed the alcohol made me do it
[QUOTE=thisispain;43022357]if you type in a post about how its a shame she killed herself because she was sexually attractive you should probably rethink your posting strategies and maybe consider how that comment will come across to others[/QUOTE]
well i don't disagree with that, but I was just saying
[QUOTE=Flapadar;43022363]Sorry officer I didn't speed the alcohol made me do it[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022362]well i mean theoretically no one is at fault for anything because all anyone is is a sum of their experiences and the chemicals in their mind.[/QUOTE]
are you guys for real
This ginger who has no soul, done a right thing by killing herself for the good of mankind. The would is better without this ginger disease. And also sadly there is no cure for this deadly disease.
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[QUOTE=thisispain;43022357]if you type in a post about how its a shame she killed herself because she was sexually attractive you should probably rethink your posting strategies and maybe consider how that comment will come across to others[/QUOTE]
yes we get it you're a psychologist and you understand the brain and whatever and i don't even remember what kind of degree you have
but nobody in those first few posts was talking about suicide. she was bullied because of how she looked. she looked hot. that's weird, and it's a shame that depression took her down (because that's what it comes down to, and we leave that analysis to people like you), but it's not untrue.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;43022363]Sorry officer I didn't speed the alcohol made me do it[/QUOTE]
dont get this analogy at all
in any case bullying can only trigger suicidal thoughts, it cant cause it
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022365]are you guys for real[/QUOTE]
You just said killing yourself isn't caused by yourself.. are you for real?
[QUOTE=thisispain;43022373]dont get this analogy at all
in any case bullying can only trigger suicidal thoughts, it cant cause it[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to say using depression as the cause of suicide is as inaccurate as using being drunk as the cause of speeding.
You might not speed sober, but that doesn't make drink the cause. You're exactly right - her depression may have caused suicidal thoughts, but in the end it was her that killed herself unlike what milkandcooki seems to think - that it was the depression.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022365]are you guys for real[/QUOTE]
you know actually, he has a point with that alcohol thing. if someone isn't at fault for something a mental illness makes them do, which is essentially just a bunch of chemicals making you feel a certain way, then why are drunk people at fault? being drunk is essentially the same thing, chemicals making you feel a certain way
[QUOTE=Mbbird;43022370]yes we get it you're a psychologist and you understand the brain and whatever and i don't even remember what kind of degree you have
but nobody is talking about suicide. she was bullied because of how she looked. she looked hot. that's weird, and it's a shame that depression took her down (because that's what it comes down to, and we leave that analysis to people like you), but it's not untrue.[/QUOTE]
yes we are actually talking about suicide right now, thanks for the off-hand comments tho
[QUOTE=Flapadar;43022374]You just said killing yourself isn't caused by yourself.. are you for real?[/QUOTE]
yeah.
nobody in their [I]>>>>right mind<<<<<<[/I] would kill themselves. this girl wasn't in her right mind, she was [I]SEVERELY[/I] depressed. that mindset led her to commit suicide.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;43022374]
I'm trying to say using depression as the cause of suicide is as inaccurate as using being drunk as the cause of speeding.[/QUOTE]
still dont get it
drinking isnt related to speeding, depression is related to suicide.
where's the analogue here?
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022380]you know actually, he has a point with that alcohol thing. if someone isn't at fault for something a mental illness makes them do, which is essentially just a bunch of chemicals making you feel a certain way, then why are drunk people at fault? being drunk is essentially the same thing, chemicals making you feel a certain way[/QUOTE]
The difference here is that you choose to drink alcohol, yet as an underage student you can't choose where it is you go to school, who exactly you have to sit near, what you hear, etc.
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[QUOTE=thisispain;43022381]yes we are actually talking about suicide right now, thanks for the off-hand comments tho[/QUOTE]
excuse the late edit:
"[B]in those first few posts[/B]"
[QUOTE=Advancedrock;43022380]you know actually, he has a point with that alcohol thing. if someone isn't at fault for something a mental illness makes them do, which is essentially just a bunch of chemicals making you feel a certain way, then why are drunk people at fault? being drunk is essentially the same thing, chemicals making you feel a certain way[/QUOTE]
i guess there's no point in having empathy for people, going to school, breathing, thinking, being yourself, or doing literally anything in your life because everything is just chemicals, including this internet argument with some guys who don't understand the severity of depression and bullying.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;43022384]yeah.
nobody in their [I]>>>>right mind<<<<<<[/I] would kill themselves. this girl wasn't in her right mind, she was [I]SEVERELY[/I] depressed. that mindset led her to commit suicide.[/QUOTE]
well nobody in their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>~~~right mind~~~<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< would kill a family of 5 by running a red light, but it happens, and it's still their fault because...i don't know.
But when somebody not in their ~right mind~ murders a family straight up, he's suddenly protected by being "mentally insane".
okay now they're getting banned for insensitivity, I'm going to leave now.
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