• Young Smokers Don't Care About Graphic Packs
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[QUOTE=Water-Marine;42083685] I will say, however, it's great for starting conversations where the situation allows it.[/QUOTE] That is actually the main reason why i started smoking. At my uni everyone smokes and it seemed like a very casual way for me to be social and start beating my crippling anxiety over it. I've actually met some really awesome people i call my friends now from it. It wasn't a HEALTHY way to battle anxiety but it really did help me.
Yeeah I think that these aren't meant for actual smokers and more for the kids who are thinking of starting, as was already mentioned last thread when the Australians implemented graphic warnings.
[QUOTE=Hawke7;42083791]Yeeah I think that these aren't meant for actual smokers and more for the kids who are thinking of starting, as was already mentioned last thread when the Australians implemented graphic warnings.[/QUOTE] they were here when I started smoking. I don't see how this is a great idea. canada's had them for a long time. they do nothing.
what made me quit is when i started noticing the difference in my body. it may not have been caused by cigarettes specifically, but it still made me want to put them down.
You can't prevent people from wanting to enjoy short term happiness at the cost of long term health. I do however, think that starting smoking is pretty fucking stupid.
Said it before, will say it again: things like that just make some smokers smoke more out of spite and the companies most likely know this.
Pretty sure they're not there to make people stop smoking, but to deter more people from starting it. This survey seems to focus on already-smoking teens.
Why don't we just ban cigarettes now and be done with it.
Just mandate they be coloured like dicks and print veins on the paper
[QUOTE=eldomtom2;42084769]Why don't we just ban cigarettes now and be done with it.[/QUOTE] Taxes, and it's a bad idea to outright ban something which a large percentage of your population enjoys. Take a look at prohibition in the US.
We can bring back the name "fags" too [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] mien mergen
i'm in the middle of getting over the 3 day hump. i love smoking but i like saving my hard earned money more. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42084779]Taxes, and it's a bad idea to outright ban something which a large percentage of your population enjoys. Take a look at prohibition in the US.[/QUOTE] whether you impose prohibition or draconian taxation, organized criminals will introduce 'shortcuts'
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42084779]Taxes, and it's a bad idea to outright ban something which a large percentage of your population enjoys. Take a look at prohibition in the US.[/QUOTE] Yeah, far better to have it taxed up the derrière and have the use of it banned from public places.
I feel like I'm in this wierd minority of smokers who are aware of the fact that they can kill you but simply don't care. It seems too many people are pressured by peers to quit for that reason. I'm indifferent.
At this point, the dumbest of the dumb are the only young people who actually decide to start smoking. Try not to use up too much of my Medicare before COPD kills you, idiots.
[QUOTE=Dancingonpie;42085613]I feel like I'm in this wierd minority of smokers who are aware of the fact that they can kill you but simply don't care. It seems too many people are pressured by peers to quit for that reason. I'm indifferent.[/QUOTE] pretty sure that's actually the majority of smokers. you'd have to be a moron to not know they're shit for you. and what do you mean too many? that there are still smokers shows that NOT ENOUGH people have quit. i'm not gonna be all holier than thou because it is your body but far out, it's expensive, it makes you reek, it's addictive, you're gonna have coughing problems for a long time after you quit and it doesn't even give you a decent 'high'. there is really nothing good about smoking and no reason to really do it. i am an ex smoker (still have 1 every now and again because i still love smoking) but in a perfect world noone would do it
It was always hard for me to imagine being addicted to cigarettes (and I tried smoking several times just for the hell of it). How does it feel? Like when you're hungry and you want to get food or something?
These things are more about stopping new people from getting addicted than getting the already other ones addicted. Atleast it is in Aus, they have other campaigns that try to get people to quit.
How about making the ciggerette packaging, extremely frustrating to open? Or make them burn faster
[QUOTE=BCell;42085744]How about making the ciggerette packaging, extremely frustrating to open? [B]Or make them burn faster[/B][/QUOTE] Yeah and directly infrige on people's right to smoke their lungs to death if they please. Good idea. Let's make burger boxes frustrating to open too, and put some more chemicals in them so they taste like shit? After all, obesity is a much bigger concern in the US than lung cancer will ever be, right? People are aware of the toxicity of a cigarette, it's common sense now, they're already expensive as hell (and going almost entirely to the state) and the collective mind grew to associate cigarettes to "big ass hole in the trachea", "black lungs", "floppy dick" etc. Now that they're banned from most indoor areas and the risk of being subject to second-hand smoking severely diminished, why would you want to forbid some people from doing what they enjoy.
[QUOTE=BCell;42085744]How about making the ciggerette packaging, extremely frustrating to open? Or make them burn faster[/QUOTE] Why do you want to be a dick to people who are just trying to enjoy something that you may not like, or want to be a part of? Has a smoker come up to you and actively tied you down, shoveled cigarettes into your face and forced you to smoke? No? Good. Now don't fuck with their pastime because of your conflicting emotions over whether or not they are going to die from the habit. I for one don't smoke for the high. I prefer to smoke pipes, and I smoke those for the smell and taste more than anything. Cigs don't taste that great, so I don't smoke them that much. When I do, I spread them out over long periods of time so that I get the full effect of the "high" that they're associated with.
Unbiased education has been far more effective at reducing the numbers of those that start than any scary packaging or covering up tobacco in super markets or prohibition and similar measures have ever been.
[QUOTE=Cuon Alpinus;42083598]What if chain smokers mixed nicotine with pot to get their fix? Now to legalize pot so I can make millions by marketing nicotine laced pot to cigarette smokers as a way to get their fix without the substance being quite as harmful.[/QUOTE] That's how a lot of people in the UK smoke their weed in the first place, mix it in the joint. I've been smoking for near enough 7-8 years now, I'm well aware of the risks, I know I'm not doing myself any favours but I genuinely enjoy smoking. I like the whole ritual of having a fag and doing nothing else.
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;42083081]Well no shit...if you're already addicted, a graphic isn't going to do much. They just assume "Meh, that'll never happen to me" and move on. It takes something serious to deter someone from their addiction. This is coming from a three-year chain smoker, by the way.[/QUOTE] I'll help you. If you don't stop smoking, bad things will happen! TO YOU!
[QUOTE=bubbagamer;42085842]Yeah and directly infrige on people's right to smoke their lungs to death if they please. Good idea. Let's make burger boxes frustrating to open too, and put some more chemicals in them so they taste like shit? After all, obesity is a much bigger concern in the US than lung cancer will ever be, right? People are aware of the toxicity of a cigarette, it's common sense now, they're already expensive as hell (and going almost entirely to the state) and the collective mind grew to associate cigarettes to "big ass hole in the trachea", "black lungs", "floppy dick" etc. Now that they're banned from most indoor areas and the risk of being subject to second-hand smoking severely diminished, why would you want to forbid some people from doing what they enjoy.[/QUOTE] Because its a massive drain on the health system. [editline]6th September 2013[/editline] well maybe not in america but here in australia where we care a little bit more and have social health care its a massive thing the government can target to reduce expenditure in one area to increase another area that really needs it
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;42085629]At this point, the dumbest of the dumb are the only young people who actually decide to start smoking. Try not to use up too much of my Medicare before COPD kills you, idiots.[/QUOTE] what a dick
My plan to discourage smoking is to start circulating a large number of dummy packs. They'd look just like any other cigarette carton, but when you open them up? There are no cigarettes. No. There are bees.
In 6th grade we were shown a graphic anti-smoking video that gave me fucking nightmares and I still managed to pick it up v:v:v I do actually care about the effects on me, think about it every time I light up but still do it anyways
if they put a picture of rangergxi with a caption "this is what you'll become" i think we could deter a lot of people from smoking
I'd rather know how much they have an effect on the growth of new smokers. It might have almost no effect on existing ones, but it can still have a big effect.
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