• Young Smokers Don't Care About Graphic Packs
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[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;42085629]At this point, the dumbest of the dumb are the only young people who actually decide to start smoking. Try not to use up too much of my Medicare before COPD kills you, idiots.[/QUOTE] if ur addicted to heroin just dont do it stupid!!! you're retarded
Then you start smoking more due to the stress that you know your lungs are caving in on themselves.
[QUOTE=BCell;42085744]How about making the ciggerette packaging, extremely frustrating to open? Or make them burn faster[/QUOTE] IIRC tailor-mades are already made to burn faster so you buy more quicker and give them more cash, that's why RYO last way longer, yknow, paper thickness and all that, and chemicaal didfferences
I don't smoke but I occasionally do it while drinking. I enjoy the sensation of smoking and the head rush, as well as just being outside where it's typically quieter/there's less people but they're more talkative, you can have nice chats with strangers.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;42086543]My plan to discourage smoking is to start circulating a large number of dummy packs. They'd look just like any other cigarette carton, but when you open them up? There are no cigarettes. No. There are bees.[/QUOTE] Now THIS is a good plan.
Why don't we just put less of those harmful chemicals in cigarettes? Why isn't that an option?
[QUOTE=Death_God;42086810]if ur addicted to heroin just dont do it stupid!!! you're retarded[/QUOTE] "At this point, the dumbest of the dumb are the only young people who actually [b]decide to start smoking[/b]" There is absolutely no reason in the world for anyone to consciously decide to START smoking. It is so fucking easy to just never try it in the first place. There is, literally, zero downside to never starting. You have to be a complete fucking idiot to willingly commit to spending the rest of your life wasting your money on cigarettes, and wasting our dwindling Medicare dollars on your hospice care while your lungs rot out and every day you breathe a little less. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;42086543]My plan to discourage smoking is to start circulating a large number of dummy packs. They'd look just like any other cigarette carton, but when you open them up? There are no cigarettes. No. There are bees.[/QUOTE] This may be the best anti-smoking idea I've ever heard in my life. "Ugh, I'm finally away from my smoke-free workplace and smoke-free public areas, now I can relax and--AAAAGHHH GOD DAMNIT!"
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;42083132]Out of curiosity, what made you guys start smoking to begin with? I don't want to seem inflammatory here because that is most certainly not my intention, but there's a lot of evidence that smoking is very bad for you and starting in the face of that evidence seems...odd to me. I've asked smokers I know and none of them seem interested in telling me.[/QUOTE] I started smoking as a bet to prove I could quit cold turkey with my smoker friends who said quitting was too hard. I smoked for 3 months, just as much as they did, and in a month I had quit smoking completely with few urges to smoke still.
car salesman probably doesnt understand the term peer pressure
[QUOTE=valkery;42082995][URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23963559[/URL][/QUOTE] It's almost like we should just let them do what they want*sarcasm* Quit trying to "save" smokers and let them smoke themselves to death, honestly this is like the opposite of what we should be doing.... Make sure kids are educated on the dangers, THEN JUST LET THEM DO IT WHO CARES @ this point honestly? You can put pictures of ripped out lungs on the pack people will still smoke.... Just goes to show how much effort is put into anti tobacco, that effort should be somewhere else as it is having NO EFFECT and its getting to the point of taking people's freedom's away...... I can see where this is going and its bad.(Imagine 20 years from now smoking is 100% illegal because it's "bad for you")
[QUOTE=Death_God;42088135]car salesman probably doesnt understand the term peer pressure[/QUOTE] If you have the kind of peers that pressure you into ruining your life like that, I think you need some new peers. That is no excuse, especially today when the truth about the health consequences is ubiquitously known.
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;42083132]Out of curiosity, what made you guys start smoking to begin with? I don't want to seem inflammatory here because that is most certainly not my intention, but there's a lot of evidence that smoking is very bad for you and starting in the face of that evidence seems...odd to me. I've asked smokers I know and none of them seem interested in telling me.[/QUOTE] Nicotine is pretty enjoyable. To many people cigarettes are overwhelming and disgusting at first, but the buzz is still nice. And there also really are people who pick it up because they think it makes them look cool. In addition, smoking breaks make for some nice chit-chat, as mentioned above. [QUOTE=Reshy;42083864]I do however, think that starting smoking is pretty fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] The tricky thing is nobody starts thinking "hey I'd love to be a pack-a-day smoker!". It just goes from smoking occasionally to smoking regularly to smoking all the time as one becomes more addicted. Most people think they can avoid that when buying their first pack; very few do. [QUOTE=qwerty000;42085673]It was always hard for me to imagine being addicted to cigarettes (and I tried smoking several times just for the hell of it). How does it feel? Like when you're hungry and you want to get food or something?[/QUOTE] It depends on the person, how addicted they are and how long they've been going without one. Short-time, if you ever had a craving for anything, that's what it's like. It makes you quite tense. Smokers trying to quit usually experience withdrawal symptoms like headaches, nausea, perhaps other pains, agitation, being slightly lightheaded, insomnia...
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;42088177]If you have the kind of peers that pressure you into ruining your life like that, I think you need some new peers. That is no excuse, especially today when the truth about the health consequences is ubiquitously known.[/QUOTE] well yeah thats probably easy for you to say since your only friends are a penny potato chip and used tissue
I find that when I smoke while drinking, I typically feel like shit in the morning due to a hangover/lack of sleep so wouldn't want to smoke anyway.
[QUOTE=Death_God;42088135]car salesman probably doesnt understand the term peer pressure[/QUOTE] Most smokers I've met don't encourage others to pick up smoking; they might even do the opposite, as they usually regret it themselves, and they're very supportive of people trying to quit.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;42088177]If you have the kind of peers that pressure you into ruining your life like that, I think you need some new peers. That is no excuse, especially today when the truth about the health consequences is ubiquitously known.[/QUOTE] must have been nice growing up in a smoke free environment. now stop condescending for 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;42088177]If you have the kind of peers that pressure you into ruining your life like that, I think you need some new peers. That is no excuse, especially today when the truth about the health consequences is ubiquitously known.[/QUOTE] That's incredibly unrealistic and close-minded It's not going to just happen like that, it's not how people work.
we should just round up all of the smokers and put them to work in a labor camp
If the NHS brought medical methods to chill out without drugs into higher circulation, maybe it would get people on board in an effective way. Acupuncture should be something mainstream, I had a demo in China and it really made me feel really relaxed and energised afterwards. I'm not bullshitting, acupuncture unlocked my soul and whoever thinks it's lame and nowhere near the relaxation of a cigarette should try it. For me, smoking tobacco is incredibly overrated for a method of relaxation.
[QUOTE=AK'z;42088459]For me, smoking tobacco is incredibly overrated for a method of relaxation.[/QUOTE] It's only relaxing to smokers because it is giving them nicotine and alleviating their need to get a fix. It's not really relaxing, just satisfying a chemical urge
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42087861]Why don't we just put less of those harmful chemicals in cigarettes? Why isn't that an option?[/QUOTE] not much of an option really. tobacco in nature is harmful to the body
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42088484]It's only relaxing to smokers because it is giving them nicotine and alleviating their need to get a fix. It's not really relaxing, just satisfying a chemical urge[/QUOTE] Oh, a nicotine rush feels pretty close to relaxation, not just alleviating withdrawals.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42088484]It's only relaxing to smokers because it is giving them nicotine and alleviating their need to get a fix. It's not really relaxing, just satisfying a chemical urge[/QUOTE] I'm just saying from personal experience. Others may just have a higher affinity for its effect. When it comes to health advertising there has to be more positive angles other than death and disease. We're all going to die so it doesn't really show a welcoming message for everyone. By advertising methods to relax, more will benefit.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;42088514]Oh, a nicotine rush feels pretty close to relaxation, not just alleviating withdrawals.[/QUOTE] i wouldn't really call nicotine rush relaxing. just sorta lightheaded for a couple of minutes and then nothing. i think it's more of a placebo than anything
[QUOTE=AK'z;42088459]If the NHS brought medical methods to chill out without drugs into higher circulation, maybe it would get people on board in an effective way. Acupuncture should be something mainstream, I had a demo in China and it really made me feel really relaxed and energised afterwards. I'm not bullshitting, acupuncture unlocked my soul and whoever thinks it's lame and nowhere near the relaxation of a cigarette should try it. For me, smoking tobacco is incredibly overrated for a method of relaxation.[/QUOTE] can you do it in 15 minutes while I'm at work? if not, then no. I take my b12 vitamin shots every 6 months or so, that's a god damn boost i'll tell you. [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Trogdon;42088484]It's only relaxing to smokers because it is giving them nicotine and alleviating their need to get a fix. It's not really relaxing, just satisfying a chemical urge[/QUOTE] The first smoke I ever had was relaxing though? [editline]5th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42088509]not much of an option really. tobacco in nature is harmful to the body[/QUOTE] yeah but I'm going to bet that formaldahyde being a cigarette ingredient would be a pretty good thing to pull out of it, no?
Honestly, an accupunture session in the morning will give you a real wide awake relaxed feel for the entire day.. By welcoming effective "alternate" medical methods into the big picture, people may just feel better a whole.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42088484]It's only relaxing to smokers because it is giving them nicotine and alleviating their need to get a fix. It's not really relaxing, just satisfying a chemical urge[/QUOTE]It is actually quite relaxing at first, but not long after that tolerance and addiction kicks in.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;42088549] yeah but I'm going to bet that formaldahyde being a cigarette ingredient would be a pretty good thing to pull out of it, no?[/QUOTE] ..i didn't say otherwise?
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42088646]..i didn't say otherwise?[/QUOTE] no but a pure tobacco cigarette versus what we currently have, would you not say a pure tobacco would be a better product health wise? I'm not saying it wouldn't do damage or hurt or be a problem, but I'm pretty sure if some of those horrible things weren't there, they would be less dangerous.
yes, it would? isn't that kind of obvious? it also wouldn't make it not harmful for you. it's still a fair deal unhealthy on its own.
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