• RIP Jurassic World's box office records. The Force Awakens has made $250 million globally in three d
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I thought the movie was just ok, there were just quite a few too many things that took away from it
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;49376125]Really not looking forward to Collin Treverrow doing IX :([/QUOTE] He's not too bad. I'm just glad he's not writing it alone, Rian Johnson puts out some quality material. Looper was fantastic
Finally saw it in Thursday and really wasn't impressed. All that hype for nothing, it really was a mediocre movie.
[QUOTE=Aetna;49394247]Finally saw it in Thursday and really wasn't impressed. All that hype for nothing, it really was a mediocre movie.[/QUOTE] As a Star Wars fan I thought it was one of the best movies in the series and really enjoyed it. On par with Episode 5.
[QUOTE=Aetna;49394247]Finally saw it in Thursday and really wasn't impressed. All that hype for nothing, it really was a mediocre movie.[/QUOTE] You do have to admit, it was better than the prequels.
[QUOTE=Inspecter;49394344]You do have to admit, it was better than the prequels.[/QUOTE] It was better than episodes 1-3, but far cry from episodes 4-6.
[QUOTE=Aetna;49394459]It was better than episodes 1-3, but far cry from episodes 4-6.[/QUOTE] I think that could be because the 70's charm that the classics had are dead. That decade is long gone. this is why star trek might never be quite like it was in the 80's/90's. It has a certain charm about it that wasn't a nostalgia effect but more a bi-product of being made during that time. admittedly though, both Star Wars and Star Trek were VERY ahead of their time, imho, they're still very 'of their era'. Modern films have changed since the 70's [U]quite [/U]a bit. Hopefully that makes sense, right?
[QUOTE=Dan2593;49369904]I imagine this record will be beaten (JUST) by Avatar 2. A brand which staggers me with how successful it is with one film.[/QUOTE] I hope not. Avatar was mediocre, and didn't really deserve to be the No. 1 highest grossing film of all time. [QUOTE=Aetna;49394459]It was better than episodes 1-3, but far cry from episodes 4-6.[/QUOTE] I think that all that people wanted was for the new Star Wars films to be better than the prequels, and so far, they're looking to be better than them.
The movie didn't blow my mind since it was so similar to EP.4, but that doesn't mean it's bad. It's still one of if not the coolest things I've personally seen at a theater. I tell people if they're a Star Wars fan or someone new who wants to start, this is a good movie. If someone is expecting the lore of the universe to be grown upon drastically or hoping for a fresh experience, it really fails to deliver. It's a shameless clone and given what it's replicating, that's not a bad thing. It's just nothing mind blowing either. Overall I really enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to launch nights for the next two, but the story is pretty much set in stone. Just review old movies and swap some names and you'll be pretty much on point to conclude what's going down.
If 7 came before 4, and we just judged on story and characterization and not how it visually looks, I think 7 would definitely beat 4. But since 4 came first, it's sadly a retreading. It's still REALLY good, but the only prequel it comes close to or beats for me is 6.
[QUOTE=Mr. Zombie;49398651]If 7 came before 4, and we just judged on story and characterization and not how it visually looks, I think 7 would definitely beat 4. But since 4 came first, it's sadly a retreading. It's still REALLY good, but the only prequel it comes close to or beats for me is 6.[/QUOTE] That's not a prequel.
I'd be more surprised if TFA doesn't make a billion dollars
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;49398820]I'd be more surprised if TFA doesn't make a billion dollars[/QUOTE] thats pretty much a given at this point.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;49369904]I imagine this record will be beaten (JUST) by Avatar 2. A brand which staggers me with how successful it is with one film. Then that will inevitably be smashed by Episode 9 and the massive hype that will come with the final Star Wars episode.[/QUOTE] I don't see Avatar 2 beating the force awakens. The first one was kind of innovative with all the cgi and 3d gimmick, and because it's james cameron. But ever since avatar was released it's been half forgotten about, and has lost popularity if anything, and there's barely any hype surrounding the next chapter.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;49398820]I'd be more surprised if TFA doesn't make a billion dollars[/QUOTE] It will in the next few days [img]http://i.imgur.com/wFgrF5i.png[/img]
[url=https://twitter.com/AP/status/681147832913543169]It already has.[/url]
[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;49399244][url=https://twitter.com/AP/status/681147832913543169]It already has.[/url][/QUOTE] ayy
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;49359228]I'm really hoping it beats out Avatar as the top grossing film of All Time[/QUOTE] I still haven't seen Avatar.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;49404126]I still haven't seen Avatar.[/QUOTE] you're not missing anything.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;49404126]I still haven't seen Avatar.[/QUOTE] It's Pocahontas with aliens. There, I just saved you 2 hours.
[QUOTE=Nidhogg;49414025]It's Pocahontas with aliens. There, I just saved you 2 hours.[/QUOTE] That can connect themselves to other living beings with their hair to reproduce.
[QUOTE=Inspecter;49394344]You do have to admit, it was better than the prequels.[/QUOTE] I disagree, I think it was actually far worse than all of the prequels, maybe even the Phantom Menace, just because of how little sense the whole movie makes. Yeah, the special effects and the acting were really good, but everything past the first part of the movie seems to just be a rehash of A New Hope with some really weird backstory [sp]like how the Resistance and the Republic are two separate entities. Why the hell does the Republic, which has a much more powerful military force (as said in the movie) need the tiny ass Resistance to do anything? Why does the First Order, which has a fucking planet full of soldiers, capital ships, and ANOTHER FUCKING DEATH STAR shake in their boots when the Resistance comes over during their raid on that one forest planet with the criminals on it when they only own a dinky little fleet of transporters and some X-Wings?[/sp] You can talk shit about the prequels all you'd like but at least in the end they felt like they made sense
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;49415981]I disagree, I think it was actually far worse than all of the prequels, maybe even the Phantom Menace, just because of how little sense the whole movie makes. Yeah, the special effects and the acting were really good, but everything past the first part of the movie seems to just be a rehash of A New Hope with some really weird backstory [sp]like how the Resistance and the Republic are two separate entities. Why the hell does the Republic, which has a much more powerful military force (as said in the movie) need the tiny ass Resistance to do anything? Why does the First Order, which has a fucking planet full of soldiers, capital ships, and ANOTHER FUCKING DEATH STAR shake in their boots when the Resistance comes over during their raid on that one forest planet with the criminals on it when they only own a dinky little fleet of transporters and some X-Wings?[/sp] You can talk shit about the prequels all you'd like but at least in the end they felt like they made sense[/QUOTE] [sp]Except the Republic had a small fleet, they demilitarized by like 90%. The Resistance was formed in secret to fight the First Order.[/sp]
[sp]And the only reason the First Order left was because Kylo Ren thought they had gotten what they needed when he captured Rey.[/sp] Not saying that Force Awakens is clear of any plot holes or elements that seem stupid, but it was a far more entertaining movie than all of the prequels combined and felt like it had more effort and thought put into it then any of the prequels. The prequels are garbage movies and utter schlock.
My guess is [sp]Neither the Republic nor the First Order were strong enough to beat the other, so they had a kind of cold war going on[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49416771]My guess is [sp]Neither the Republic nor the First Order were strong enough to beat the other, so they had a kind of cold war going on[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]The New Republic, tired of war, signed a peace treaty with the First Order. Many within the New Republic did not see the First Order as a legitimate threat, so they took to the task of disarmament, as another safegaurd from becoming another Empire (that's also the reason the seat of power moves, during TFA it was in the Hosnian system). Leia, and a few others felt that the First Order was a legitimate threat, so they formed the resistance. The Residence was able to then secure some funding and supplies from the New Republic, although very secretively.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;49415981]You can talk shit about the prequels all you'd like but at least in the end they felt like they made sense[/QUOTE] a new hope begins with an evil empire capturing freedom fighters (led by princess leia), leaving it up to a farmer boy along with a pedal bin, a space hairdresser, and a cowboy to get to the rebel base with the death star plans. after being captured themselves and then rescuing leia they join the rebels and overcome the evil empire by blowing up the death star in two sentences can you explain to me what happens in the phantom menace like from memory, you can't use wookiepedia for this you have to try remembering what actually happened in it
[QUOTE=bdd458;49416045][sp]Except the Republic had a small fleet, they demilitarized by like 90%. The Resistance was formed in secret to fight the First Order.[/sp][/QUOTE] Maybe they should have explained these plot points in the movie. It's poor writing when I have to get this back story from other sources.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49418966]Maybe they should have explained these plot points in the movie. It's poor writing when I have to get this back story from other sources.[/QUOTE] [sp]The resistence being funded secretly by the New Reoublic was stated in the film by General Hux. There was going to be a scene where Korr Sella (Black woman that is seen on the Hosnian system as its being destroyed) was going to have a scene where she petitons the New Republic for more funding and to try and get them to actually help against the First Order. They cut it out for one reason or another. Probably tryingg to avoid politics or it ruined the flow[/sp]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49417011]a new hope begins with an evil empire capturing freedom fighters (led by princess leia), leaving it up to a farmer boy along with a pedal bin, a space hairdresser, and a cowboy to get to the rebel base with the death star plans. after being captured themselves and then rescuing leia they join the rebels and overcome the evil empire by blowing up the death star in two sentences can you explain to me what happens in the phantom menace like from memory, you can't use wookiepedia for this you have to try remembering what actually happened in it[/QUOTE] Old Republic has started to fallen into infighting with some systems and organizations starting to consider seceding from the republic, hostile systems blockade Naboo and Jedi initially sent to negotiate escape with Naboo queen to Tattooine where Anakin Skywalker manages to win his freedom, afterwards he flies with them back to Naboo. Jedi face off against Sith, Liam Neeson dies, Anakin becomes a jedi apprentice. Phantom Menace had a great idea to show Darth Vader's origins as a slave and could've used that later in the prequels to drive him to the Sith, and show the decaying democracy of the Republic which led to the rise of the Empire but it was all butchered.
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