• Are you fucking kidding: Petition asking Nintendo to make Link into a Black Female for the next Zeld
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;45122802] I haven't played a Zelda game since Majoras Mask, so I'm not a totally familiar with the canon, but I thought that Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf were basically just reincarnations of the same three souls who were destined to clash with each other throughout time and space, or something like that? Fill me in, here.[/QUOTE] You've got it right, twice over. In Skyward Sword the final boss proclaims that his descendant/reincarnation will destroy their descendants (basically foreshadowing Ganondorf). In Ocarina of Time Ganondorf, after defeat, basically tells Link and Zelda that their fight will happen again over and over, through their descendants. The major difference here is that while it's not always the same Link/Zelda, it's always the same Ganondorf.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;45124395]yep facepunch is definitely not racist ever[/QUOTE] duh racism is bad and we're all nice people
[QUOTE=postmanX3;45124367]so you're so offended over merely the thought of a female protagonist of color that you want to verbally assault the person who created this petition? sounds like you might have some issues that need sorting out. [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] that's true enough, but considering blonde hair/blue eyes seems to be a trait of many hylians (zelda included) it seems to suggest race more than a single pink-haired protagonist in an anime[/QUOTE] no im mad that some black person always has to say something about them not being included. Their being a bunch of babies and it needs to stop
[QUOTE=postmanX3;45124395]yep facepunch is definitely not racist ever[/QUOTE] are you incapable of reading or do you just imagine words so that you can overreact to them you get bonus points if you call me a racist because you've got nothing
[QUOTE=postmanX3;45120261]straight white cis males are threatened by the idea that they shouldn't be the most important people in the world. you can't really blame them either, since that's what they're typically treated like.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45122203]Because white people hate and fear those different from them and will do anything to keep their characters white and straight.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=postmanX3;45124255] "not ALL white people!!" yes congrats not all white people hate the idea of recognizing minority groups. but as public reaction (both generally and in this thread) demonstrate, it certainly is a LOT of them.[/QUOTE] for a moment there i thought you guys were just taking the piss out tumblr like many others did in this thread jesus christ, it's like reverse poe's law in here
I would play a black female character. I had no problems playing as Yuna in FFX-2, in fact, it's one of my all time favorite games, it would not have been any different had she been black, indian, w/e. It's about the story and the game. I could GAF less what the character looks like, as long as the story fits. Now, with that being said, I don't think it would be a smart move making Link a black woman. This game has been going on for as long as I can remember. I think too extreme of a change would make it feel like it wasn't the same game, but a spin-off of the franchise instead. I just think that in the LOZ franchise, it would feel "out of place" due to what LOZ has always been.
[QUOTE=confinedUser;45124491]no im mad that some black person always has to say something about them not being included. Their being a bunch of babies and it needs to stop[/QUOTE] so presumably you're just being facetious. but anyways this is a commonly-held viewpoint and it really does show just how ridiculous white people are! people of color have to face exclusion and derision, but those poor, poor white people have to hear about the many issues people of color face.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45124555]Now, with that being said, I don't think it would be a smart move making Link a black woman. This game has been going on for as long as I can remember. I think too extreme of a change would make it feel like it wasn't the same game, but a spin-off of the franchise instead. I just think that in the LOZ franchise, it would feel "out of place" due to what LOZ has always been.[/QUOTE] Make us play as a badass Tetra! [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3797350/hosting/2014-06/2014-06-16_23-44-20.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45124555]I think too extreme of a change would make it feel like it wasn't the same game, but a spin-off of the franchise instead. I just think that in the LOZ franchise, it would feel "out of place" due to what LOZ has always been.[/QUOTE] Spin-offs aren't inherently bad
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;45124516]are you incapable of reading or do you just imagine words so that you can overreact to them you get bonus points if you call me a racist because you've got nothing[/QUOTE] i don't even know what you're talking about any more lol. Zeke's post pointed out how several posters managed to display both sexism and racism simultaneously, and your response is just, like, "not everyone!" again, wow congrats, not everyone. the fact that ANYONE is doing it is a problem. [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Aphtonites;45124519]for a moment there i thought you guys were just taking the piss out tumblr like many others did in this thread jesus christ, it's like reverse poe's law in here[/QUOTE] i guess i just have to start adding an addendum to my posts or something. i'm serious. i'm always serious about these things.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;45124318]more people in the thread talking about how people are overreacting to a petition so I don't know why you're throwing around the classic "facepunch are racists!!!" when this thread has more people being rational but I guess it's easier to throw out the hivemind shite and be edgy rather than make good posts[/QUOTE] The posts about "black names" are really damn racist, and all the posts about tumblr and "genderqueer panfeminist bispecies blahblah" are just ironic shitposting (which, I'm told, is still shitposting)
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;45124569]Make us play as a badass Tetra! [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3797350/hosting/2014-06/2014-06-16_23-44-20.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I think that would be a perfect spin-off within the LOZ franchise. If the storyline was good like the rest of the franchise, I would definitely play it.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;45124596]i don't even know what you're talking about even more lol. Zeke's post pointed out how several posters managed to display both sexism and racism simultaneously, and your response is just, like, "not everyone!" again, wow congrats, not everyone. the fact that ANYONE is doing it is a problem.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=postmanX3;45124596]Zeke's post pointed out how several posters[/QUOTE] [quote=Zeke]lol facepunch managed to combine hating feminism[/quote] we'll go with incapable of reading then but it's good that you've actually had to elaborate on your shitposting rather than just spouting some garbage all over the thread. well done, racism is bad, you're an inspiration postmanX3. Thank fuck we have your shitposting to defeat racism on facepunch [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;45124607]The posts about "black names" are really damn racist, and all the posts about tumblr and "genderqueer panfeminist bispecies blahblah" are just ironic shitposting (which, I'm told, is still shitposting)[/QUOTE] sure they are, but calling all of facepunch racist because of idiots is basically doing the same thing as the people that say all of tumblr are morons the joke is, you're doing exactly the same thing as the people that say "tumblr is filled with social justice warriors"
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;45124613] sure they are, but calling all of facepunch racist because of idiots is basically doing the same thing as the people that say all of tumblr are morons the joke is, you're doing exactly the same thing as the people that say "tumblr is filled with social justice warriors"[/QUOTE] Except facepunch ratings make it really obvious what posts are generally liked by facepunchers and which are generally disliked. It's like when redditors claim reddit isn't a stupid hivemind but then all the stupid shit flies right to the top
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;45124613]we'll go with incapable of reading then but it's good that you've actually had to elaborate on your shitposting rather than just spouting some garbage all over the thread [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] sure they are, but calling all of facepunch racist because of idiots is basically doing the same thing as the people that say all of tumblr are morons the joke is, you're doing exactly the same thing as the people that say "tumblr is filled with social justice warriors"[/QUOTE] except saying tumblr is filled with 'social justice warriors' is pretty much as accurate as saying FP is filled with a bunch of racist dudes. but i'd much rather be a social justice warrior than a racist! :^)
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45124633]Except facepunch ratings make it really obvious what posts are generally liked by facepunchers and which are generally disliked.[/QUOTE] 217 users rating the thread funny is not conclusive proof that facepunch is about to go lynching if you think that, you're deluding yourself and overreacting [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=postmanX3;45124636]except saying tumblr is filled with 'social justice warriors' is pretty much as accurate as saying FP is filled with a bunch of racist dudes. but i'd much rather be a social justice warrior than a racist! :^)[/QUOTE] congratulations
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;45124638]217 users rating the thread funny is not conclusive proof that facepunch is about to go lynching if you think that, you're deluding yourself and overreacting [editline]16th June 2014[/editline] congratulations[/QUOTE] because you need to lynch people of color to be racist. (hint: you do not.) also thanks.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45124633]Except facepunch ratings make it really obvious what posts are generally liked by facepunchers and which are generally disliked. It's like when redditors claim reddit isn't a stupid hivemind but then all the stupid shit flies right to the top[/QUOTE] neither funny ratings nor upvotes are reliable indicators of racism. however making fun of black names is a reliable indicator and I guess rating made up black names funny is a reasonably reliable indicator of racism, which I did not see the first time I checked
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;45124638]217 users rating the thread funny is not conclusive proof that facepunch is about to go lynching if you think that, you're deluding yourself and overreacting[/QUOTE] First reply, everyone loves the racist snipe. Few posts later the "tumblr-esque" shit starts, everyone loves it too. Seriously just look at what people are posting and positively rating for 20 seconds instead of going into a tizzy because I dare suggest that an internet forum's post quality is declining. Half this shit would have gotten people banned as recently as 2011.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;45124255]"not ALL white people!!" yes congrats not all white people hate the idea of recognizing minority groups. but as public reaction (both generally and in this thread) demonstrate, it certainly is a LOT of them.[/QUOTE] I don't know, the original post was pretty clear: [QUOTE=LurkyLurker;45122203]Because [B][U]white people[/U][/B] hate and fear those different from them and will do anything to keep their characters white and straight.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45124696]First reply, everyone loves the racist snipe. Few posts later the "tumblr-esque" shit starts, everyone loves it too. Seriously just look at what people are posting and positively rating for 20 seconds instead of going into a tizzy because I dare suggest that an internet forum's post quality is declining. Half this shit would have gotten people banned as recently as 2011.[/QUOTE] because some people rate a post funny, 'everyone loves it' it's as fucking stupid as judging all of tumblr because of some die hard morons and don't kid yourself, TH89 was the only person who would have banned anyone in this thread, everything else would have flown. branding an entire internet website racist because 0.6% of the active users rated a thread funny is overreaction at best, and fucking stupidity at worst grow up. If you want an entire website to brand racist, go look at stormfront or /pol/, then tell me that facepunch is the worst of the worst and 'declining in post quality' the only thing that's been declining facepunch's average post quality is you making 41 thousand of the fucking things
[QUOTE=Turnips5;45124692]neither funny ratings nor upvotes are reliable indicators of racism. however making fun of black names is a reliable indicator and I guess rating made up black names funny is a reasonably reliable indicator of racism, which I did not see the first time I checked[/QUOTE] Next time someone brings up the stereotype of "Latquisha" black names or whatever it is, I should remind them of all the white dorks that gave the name of video game characters to their offspring :v:
Want to know what's actually racist? A kid I was friends with when we were younger, coming out on Fcebook as a fucking racist by posting a video of some African-American kid beating on a homeless man or something, and saying "This is why I had all those fucking niggers" and then when called out on his racism goes "IT'S THE INTERNET STOP BEING SUCH A FUCKING CRY BABY I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT!" and "I only have like 3 black friends, because most black people are a joke" and "I also hate all Hispanics/Latinos. Those spics all disgust me, leeching off of welfare and stealing our jobs". That's fucking racism, not someone posting a tongue in cheek comment about names.
the only reliable course of action is that I ban everybody for falling into this blatant shitposting trap. the conversation is just butting heads about semantics at this point
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