And I wanted to emmigrate to Norway...Just so I could exploit the women there, screw up welfare the most and vote for another leftist because that's what keeps me better.
Yeah, that's how you xenophobes view immigrants. Maybe it's your fault, you should view them differently and treat them differently, as well as HANDLE them, not WHINE about them.
My real reasons to go to Norway is because I wanted to be a welder there, and because I like Viking traditions, they are the most civilized out there compared to christianity. Also, the climate. Cold as tits? Perfect for me! Don't like the cold? Simply burn in hell.
P.S. I'm not Spanish, I'm actually Russian. I hate being Russian simply because you all hate Russians. Those are stereotypes, they're not always true.
Why do people think we're against immigration? It's a cold hard fact, that there are more violent crimes in Oslo than any other place in Norway. I guess it's just a coincidence that crime on a country wide basis is down, but Oslo is worse than New York on a per citizen basis.
Here is a crime map of Oslo.
[url]http://www.osloby.no/nyheter/krim/Her-skjer-kriminaliteten-7301557.html#.Ui_l2MZmh8E[/url]
I'm sorry if you feel stating facts is racist. It's kind of frustrating really to be labeled racist because of pointing out these facts (or better yet, explain to me how this is racist?). As it stands right now, Norway needs to integrate immigrants better, and turn away criminals, because right now our prisons don't have the capacity to handle the amount of criminals, and we're forced to let people go. I don't understand how you feel that is xenophobic, Norwegians are generally very open and welcoming to anyone.
If the current government goes overboard and put up very strict immigration policies, turning away legit people in need of help. They'll have no support from me.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42137382]my girlfriend is norwegian and immigration is a serious problem in norway.
she informs me that they essentially just throw away all their money to immigrants.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I met this half-norwegian guy who said that the 750 billion dollar fund they have was spent on making immigrants better looking with plastic surgery.
If Norway has 750 billion dollars ready to use then it is clear they are not spending 'all' of their money on immigrants.
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[QUOTE=UnknownDude;42145376]The conservatives have now laid out their plans for the budget. Apparently they want to cut the welfare and healthcare budgets, which is rather worrying in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
But they want to spend that massive fund that they got from oil revenues. What are they gonna spend it on?
They had one good point which was to diversify the economy, but I have a feeling they're going to go the wrong way about doing it.
[QUOTE=Explosions;42149450]This is rich. If anyone were to say
"It's a good thing that the Republicans won a majority because now they can work on tougher immigration laws. I mean, it's common knowledge that tons of Mexicans come in an start selling drugs and committing crime right away! Hell, they're always leeching off the welfare system."
they would be universally criticized on this forum and possible even banned. But it's fine because you need to live in your perfect white Scandinavian wonderlands so racism is O.K.[/QUOTE]
Except nobody is talking about throwing out all immigrants nor that all immigrants are criminals. There is plenty of actual statistics backing it all up, and people want to stop illegals and criminals from entering the country. Its not about race or keeping white purity or some stupid shit like that. Yeah most immigrants that turn to crime won't be Caucasian due to how the wealth is distributed in the world right now, but correlation does not imply causation, we don't want to send criminals back because they aren't white.
Keep your warped definition of racism and out of control ideals that any criticism towards someone who isn't Caucasian is racism to the US, we don't have it here.
The socialist welfare state is unsustainable and should be abolished before it's too late and the privatisation of public services should become a priority as it is the only way to ensure nobody is exploiting the system, and thus tax payers.
[QUOTE=UltraSamurai;42152238]The socialist welfare state is unsustainable and should be abolished before it's too late and the privatisation of public services should become a priority as it is the only way to ensure nobody is exploiting the system, and thus tax payers.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but not everyone on this Earth is a believer in meritocracy, like it or not.
And the welfare state in Norway is probably [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway]plenty sustainable[/url] for at least a century or two at this rate.
Their campaign platform includes restarting the proud tradition of raiding the western lands.
[QUOTE=UltraSamurai;42152238]The socialist welfare state is unsustainable and should be abolished before it's too late and the privatisation of public services should become a priority as it is the only way to ensure nobody is exploiting the system, and thus tax payers.[/QUOTE]
After that post and also the Australian federal election threads, I swear that you are a troll or just insane. There is no way a sane person can make the posts that you make.
I just hope they don't do something stupid while in office. I've been considering moving there once I finish my education.
immigration will cause problems if you don't try to integrate those people.
I want a system where people can migrate if they want to, but they will be given the opportunities to integrate fully with society.
when two very different cultures clash, there will be problems if nothing is done about it
[QUOTE=Earthen;42151957]Yeah I met this half-norwegian guy who said that the 750 billion dollar fund they have was spent on making immigrants better looking with plastic surgery.
If Norway has 750 billion dollars ready to use then it is clear they are not spending 'all' of their money on immigrants.
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I used the term figuratively, if they spent ALL their money they wouldn't really be a government anymore. what I meant is they throw away a lot of money just handing it to immigrants for no reason other than the fact that they're immigrants. when you do that your country becomes extremely attractive to others planning to immigrate. do you not see the dangers of this?
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42155757]they throw away a lot of money just handing it to immigrants for no reason other than the fact that they're immigrants[/QUOTE]
Please give me a source that this is happening, because it sounds like bullshit.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;42155821]Please give me a source that this is happening, because it sounds like bullshit.[/QUOTE]
It kinda does, I can't find any source on this as well. Though money should be spent on immigrants, for a better way of integrating them into society.
A lot of them are integrating just fine, but there are those who end up in the ghettos and end up turning to crime.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;42155821]Please give me a source that this is happening, because it sounds like bullshit.[/QUOTE]
before your recent election, immigrants were basically guaranteed welfare payments because of their immigrant status. whereas actual norwegian citizens needed valid reasons and proof of said reasons to get said welfare payments. so as a person immigrating to norway you are guaranteed free income if you can't/won't work.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42156103]before your recent election, immigrants were basically guaranteed welfare payments because of their immigrant status. whereas actual norwegian citizens needed valid reasons and proof of said reasons to get said welfare payments. so as a person immigrating to norway you are guaranteed free income if you can't/won't work.[/QUOTE]That's not a source, though. Government statistics, reputable surveys, news articles or something along those lines.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42155757]I used the term figuratively, if they spent ALL their money they wouldn't really be a government anymore. what I meant is they throw away a lot of money just handing it to immigrants for no reason other than the fact that they're immigrants. when you do that your country becomes extremely attractive to others planning to immigrate. do you not see the dangers of this?[/QUOTE]
The dangers of making a country attractive to immigrants! Man, that sure would suck.
[QUOTE=Xavith;42156101]A lot of them are integrating just fine, but there are those who end up in the ghettos and end up turning to crime.[/QUOTE]
I wonder why they end up in "ghettos".
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;42156127]That's not a source, though. Government statistics, reputable surveys, news articles or something along those lines.[/QUOTE]
how do you expect me to find a source for a vague piece of generally uninteresting information from a country who's language I can't even speak?
[QUOTE=Explosions;42156254]I wonder why they end up in "ghettos".[/QUOTE]
Obviously because of white supremacist Norwegian racists, it's almost like you have no idea what people in Norway are like.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42156684]how do you expect me to find a source for a vague piece of generally uninteresting information from a country who's language I can't even speak?[/QUOTE]
Wait so, how do you know it then?
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42156103]before your recent election, immigrants were basically guaranteed welfare payments because of their immigrant status. whereas actual norwegian citizens needed valid reasons and proof of said reasons to get said welfare payments. so as a person immigrating to norway you are guaranteed free income if you can't/won't work.[/QUOTE]
That makes sense though if these people are FOBs. FOBs need some kind of consistent income at arrival, unless you're expecting FOBs to have jobs immediately at Day 1.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42136590]Anti immigration but named progress party. What.[/QUOTE]
Immigration is [b]bad[/b]
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42156684]how do you expect me to find a source for a vague piece of generally uninteresting information from a country who's language I can't even speak?[/QUOTE]
Uhh. How can you say that happens then, if you can't even provide a way to show anyone?
A statement that can't be backed up is a rather poor base for an argument.
[QUOTE=Runar;42157198]Wait so, how do you know it then?[/QUOTE]
from talking to norwegian people. I've read a couple of articles about it before but I have no idea how I would locate them now.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42157404]from talking to norwegian people. I've read a couple of articles about it before but I have no idea how I would locate them now.[/QUOTE]
A lot of Norwegians are very uninformed about how welfare payments are done, so if you heard it from Norwegians there's a big chance they didn't actually know what they were talking about.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;42157448]A lot of Norwegians are very uninformed about how welfare payments are done, so if you heard it from Norwegians there's a big chance they didn't actually know what they were talking about.[/QUOTE]
from my perspective the chances are equal for you. as I said, over time I've read about it but locating articles like that would be extremely difficult. I tried but all the results were irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42157549]from my perspective the chances are equal for you. as I said, over time I've read about it but locating articles like that would be extremely difficult. I tried but all the results were irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
I've been trying to find anything that can suggest immigrants get money simply for being immigrants, including looking through the webpages for the Norwegian Labour and Welfare Administration, but I can't find anything to suggest it.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;42157237]Immigration is [b]bad[/b][/QUOTE]
And a Serbian flag too!
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[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42157404]from talking to norwegian people. I've read a couple of articles about it before but I have no idea how I would locate them now.[/QUOTE]
I've talked to lot of Southerners and I've come to the conclusion that black people are subhuman animals.
[QUOTE=LarparNar;42157726]I've been trying to find anything that can suggest immigrants get money simply for being immigrants, including looking through the webpages for the Norwegian Labour and Welfare Administration, but I can't find anything to suggest it.[/QUOTE]
I guess I used the wrong words. it's just drastically easier to get welfare payments if you're an immigrant. it's not a written law or a ''support the immigrants'' program. I'm sure being norwegian you've heard complaints that it's near impossible for an immigrant to get denied welfare while norwegian citizens only get it if the government deems that they absolutely need it.
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[QUOTE=Explosions;42157936]
I've talked to lot of Southerners and I've come to the conclusion that black people are subhuman animals.[/QUOTE]
the words of citizens don't mean anything unless they're journalists. ok.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42158323]I guess I used the wrong words. it's just drastically easier to get welfare payments if you're an immigrant. it's not a written law or a ''support the immigrants'' program. I'm sure being norwegian you've heard complaints that it's near impossible for an immigrant to get denied welfare while norwegian citizens only get it if the government deems that they absolutely need it.
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the words of citizens don't mean anything unless they're journalists. ok.[/QUOTE]
No, a journalist's word doesn't mean anything either. If they cite experts, then yes.
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