[QUOTE=ksenior;40204852]Dammit, beaten by a minute! She was an ultra conservative dickweed and while I won't celebrate her death she shall not be missed. The only thing I think she did right was the Falklands[/QUOTE] Murican' here, what was the Falklands all about because they never taught it to us yet in High School.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;40208303]Murican' here, what was the Falklands all about because they never taught it to us yet in High School.[/QUOTE]
Argentina invaded the Falklands because they thought we didn't want it, we took it back
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;40208303]Murican' here, what was the Falklands all about because they never taught it to us yet in High School.[/QUOTE]
Argentina wanted the Falklands, we wanted to keep the Falklands. The people on the Falklands wanted to remain as part of the Commonwealth IIRC.
Shit went down and Argentina took a lot of losses. I'm not sure but I think more people died on one ship we sank than we lost in the entire war.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;40207807]Dubya.[/QUOTE]
He was re-elected twice.
Thatcher lasted about 50% longer than he did. Not to mention the Tories stayed in power after she left for another 6 years.
-NINJA'D BLARG-
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40208333]Argentina wanted the Falklands, we wanted to keep the Falklands. The people on the Falklands wanted to remain as part of the Commonwealth IIRC.
Shit went down and Argentina took a lot of losses. I'm not sure but I think more people died on one ship we sank than we lost in the entire war.[/QUOTE]
HMS Sheffield was blown up
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T7IF8MJrKfU/S-BaoelRg5I/AAAAAAAABN4/6RYmsWBUvJM/s1600/hms-sheffield.jpg[/img]
255 British servicemen died in the war and 655 Argentine
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40208172]Well my Dad'll be pleased. I can't think of anyone else I know that hated Thatcher as much as he does. He's going to have a field day on Facebook arguing with Tories, that's for sure.
I remember once he was arguing with some guy about my age who arguged Thatcherism was the best thing that had happened to this country. If I remember correctly I think he shut him down with a "You were born in 1990, don't talk to me about something you weren't alive to see."[/QUOTE]
My mum's response is "Do you remember what '78 was like?"
[QUOTE=matt.ant;40208396]HMS Sheffield was blown up
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T7IF8MJrKfU/S-BaoelRg5I/AAAAAAAABN4/6RYmsWBUvJM/s1600/hms-sheffield.jpg[/img]
255 British servicemen died in the war and 655 Argentine[/QUOTE]
Welp shows how much I know about the Falklands!
I should probably look it up. It's a war people know very little about.
I wonder if anyone ever asked her after her retirement how she felt about becoming one of the most hated politicians in British history. I actually really want to know how these politicians feel after that. Someone should interview Dubya and ask him, I think that asking a blunt question like that and seeing what response you get could be very interesting.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40208423]I wonder if anyone ever asked her after her retirement how she felt about becoming one of the most hated politicians in British history. I actually really want to know how these politicians feel after that. Someone should interview Dubya and ask him, I think that asking a blunt question like that and seeing what response you get could be very interesting.[/QUOTE]
I doubt she cares, you wouldn't get that far in politics if you had your feelings hurt every time someone said they didn't like you
[QUOTE=Fetret;40208134]What?[/QUOTE]
She called Mandela a terrorist.
[QUOTE=jaykray;40208466]She called Mandela a terrorist.[/QUOTE]
He was, he conspired to blow up a bus, his wife actually was a terrorist, just because his cause was good doesn't mean that his methods were.
Thatcher dies and no one mentions spitting image?
[video=youtube;3aAW5822Otg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aAW5822Otg[/video]
rip the tf2 announcer
[QUOTE=Chrisordie;40208519]Thatcher dies and no one mentions spitting image?
[video=youtube;3aAW5822Otg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aAW5822Otg[/video][/QUOTE]
Thread music:
[video=youtube;R1jY5fYjV-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jY5fYjV-U[/video]
[QUOTE=matt.ant;40208443]I doubt she cares, you wouldn't get that far in politics if you had your feelings hurt every time someone said they didn't like you[/QUOTE]
But you never expect to become so hated after the fact. You know you can't please everyone, but you never expect so many people to despise you. As well, once you're out and no longer caring about re-election, it can give you some time to think and reflect about your past actions. It could provide some very unique insight into politics to do some interviews with politicians some 10-15 years after they retire, and ask them very blunt questions about their policies, their beliefs, and their feelings on public opinion towards them.
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;40207813]I think a lot of people are celebrating her death like she was awful to them, despite her having no effect on their lives, just to join the bandwagon.
Uncool.[/QUOTE]
Uh, she made a massive impact on most people's lives in Britain today, regardless if they were alive at the time.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40208551]But you never expect to become so hated after the fact. You know you can't please everyone, but you never expect so many people to despise you. As well, once you're out and no longer caring about re-election, it can give you some time to think and reflect about your past actions. It could provide some very unique insight into politics to do some interviews with politicians some 10-15 years after they retire, and ask them very blunt questions about their policies, their beliefs, and their feelings on public opinion towards them.[/QUOTE]
She was hated by many but loved by many too, she didn't seem like the kind of person who regretted her actions
All I know about Thatcher was what Top Gear taught me, and that is that she was a vile, boring woman
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40204887]Americans were bashed for celebrating in the streets about Bin Laden's death but the UK seems rather happy with their own former prime minister dying in this thread.
The world confuses me sometimes.[/QUOTE]
the day reagan died was probably the best day of my life.
[QUOTE=jaykray;40208466]She called Mandela a terrorist.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Wikipedia]...in 1961 Mandela co-founded Umkhonto we Sizwe ("Spear of the Nation", abbreviated MK)...Operating through a cell structure, the MK agreed to acts of sabotage to exert maximum pressure on the government with minimum casualties, bombing military installations, power plants, telephone lines and transport links at night, when civilians were not present. Mandela noted that should these tactics fail, MK would resort to "guerilla warfare and terrorism."[/quote]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Umkhonto_we_Sizwe_and_African_tour:_1961.E2.80.931962[/url]
That's the part of Mandela's life the schools like to leave out when they talk about his struggle against apartheid during Black History Month.
[QUOTE=matt.ant;40208396]HMS Sheffield was blown up
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T7IF8MJrKfU/S-BaoelRg5I/AAAAAAAABN4/6RYmsWBUvJM/s1600/hms-sheffield.jpg[/img]
255 British servicemen died in the war and 655 Argentine[/QUOTE]
2 Type 42 Destroyers, HMS Sheffield and HMS Coventry were sunk, as were 2 Type 21 Frigates, HMS Ardent and HMS Antelope. Also lost was RFA Sir Galahad, a troop ship with the Welsh Guards embarked. I think a couple of other smaller vessels bought it as well, iirc.
(Easy to remember the Destroyers for me, those are the only two cities I've spent lots of time in)
The Falklands war was a very close run affair, we almost bollocksed it completely.
Anyway, RIP Marge, most of what you did seemed pretty on the level.
And so dies the iron maiden of Britain, another giant of the conservative 80s
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40208614][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Umkhonto_we_Sizwe_and_African_tour:_1961.E2.80.931962[/url]
That's the part of Mandela's life the schools like to leave out when they talk about his struggle against apartheid during Black History Month.[/QUOTE]
the only problem i see with this is that it isn't taught
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette[/url]
Interesting point on being respectful.
[QUOTE=geogzm;40208524]rip the tf2 announcer[/QUOTE]
I've always suspected Mom from Futurama was based on Thatcher
[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;40208416]Welp shows how much I know about the Falklands!
I should probably look it up. It's a war people know very little about.[/QUOTE]
pretty interesting war, also, these are my dads service medals from the falklands war
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Nupc1Rz.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;40207782]Through some Wikipedia reading I ended up at the article about the Falklands Invasion - this is the actual correspondence between the Falklands and London after the invasion:
LON (London): HELLO THERE WHAT ARE ALL THESE RUMOURS WE HEAR THIS IS LON
FK (Falklands): WE HAVE LOTS OF NEW FRIENDS
LON: WHAT ABOUT INVASION RUMOURS
FK: THOSE ARE THE FRIENDS I WAS MEANING
LON: THEY HAVE LANDED
FK: ABSOLUTELY
LON: ARE YOU OPEN FOR TRAFFIC IE NORMAL TELEX SERVICE
FK: NO ORDERS ON THAT YET ONE MUST OBEY ORDERS
LON: WHOSE ORDERS
FK: THE NEW GOVERNORS
LON: ARGENTINA
FK: YES
LON: ARE THE ARGENTINIANS IN CONTROL
FK: YES YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH THOUSANDS OF TROOPS PLUS ENORMOUS NAVY SUPPORT WHEN YOU ARE ONLY 1600 STRONG. STAND BY.
I found it somewhat humorous.[/QUOTE]
Wow, FK was being pretty jokey considering they'd just been invaded.
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