[QUOTE=Chaoss86;40206534]Karma's a bitch aint it[/QUOTE]
Yeah dying of old age I bet they didn't see that coming.
I like the "died peacefully of a stroke" part. How is that peaceful?
[QUOTE=anis;40206554]I like the "died peacefully of a stroke" part. How is that peaceful?[/QUOTE]
The same reason the Daily Mail thinks all our soldiers die bravely thinking of the Queen.
DM article quote[QUOTE]She was one heck of a PM. Faced down the Argies, then kicked their butts out of the Falklands. This Lady had more grace, class, resolve and guts that the whole bunch of useless fools in the UK Parliament today! RIP Mam, you were a great PM![/QUOTE]
Rust in Peace, Iron Lady.
I'm not from where you guys live, what has Thatcher done besides fuck with rent regulations in '88?
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40206606]I'm not from where you guys live, what has Thatcher done besides fuck with rent regulations in '88?[/QUOTE]
They don't like her because she's basically British Reagan.
It's more complicated than that of course, but that's the gist of it.
[video=youtube;Rf83Y7hRi2k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htNSUBjXV6g[/video]
[I]We missed your Limey ass in Brighton[/I]
seriously though, it's not the worst that could have happened to her. she'd suffered from dementia for years.
[QUOTE=dual elites;40206519]good fucking riddance, she fucked over me and my entire family and openly tried to destroy the working class[/quote]
So, what should have been done instead?
[quote]she should be wrapped up and dumped into the ocean like bin laden was[/QUOTE]
bit harsh m8
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40206615]So, what should have been done instead?
bit harsh m8[/QUOTE]
I doubt you'd be defending Reagan this hard.
[QUOTE=anis;40206531][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/a1TpUYo.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Stroke.
Peacefully.
Aye I guess it would be peaceful if feeling your brain die is peaceful.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40206618]I doubt you'd be defending Reagan this hard.[/QUOTE]
Well for one thing, he wasn't the British prime minister. Secondly, his policies weren't carbon-copy ones of Thatchers.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40206647]Well for one thing, he wasn't the British prime minister. Secondly, his policies weren't carbon-copy ones of Thatchers.[/QUOTE]
I fail to see what nationality has to do with it, and his policies were arguably just as reprehensible.
Why is she seen in negative light?
I thought people liked Meryl Streep...
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40206666]I fail to see what nationality has to do with it, and his policies were arguably just as reprehensible.[/QUOTE]
Except Reagan massively increased spending whilst Thatcher didn't.
Reagan spent most of his cash on useless new military toys and projects.
As for nationality, he never was in a major position of power in Britain. I can't judge him because it would be like comparing the policies of one countries leader to the policies of another countries leader, rather than two leaders within the same country.
[QUOTE=anis;40206554]I like the "died peacefully of a stroke" part. How is that peaceful?[/QUOTE]
What do you think 'dying peacefully' is anyway? If the stroke is sufficiently massive or in an important part of the brain it is quick and painless.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40206618]I doubt you'd be defending Reagan this hard.[/QUOTE]
they did different things
they shared a hardline stance against communism and a noticeably more rightwing position than their predecessors and successors, and were good friends, but their actual specific policies differed substantially.
RIP, best postwar PM regardless of whether you like her or not, she was by far the most influential person in British politics and many of her policies are still the standard of the government.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40204887]Americans were bashed for celebrating in the streets about Bin Laden's death but the UK seems rather happy with their own former prime minister dying in this thread.
The world confuses me sometimes.[/QUOTE]
well it's moderate bemusement more than anything and, for the people who were affected by her policies back in the 80s, a weird form of vindication for whatever hardship they experienced. in britain it's very rare recently that we're fond of a former leader and thatcher is the epitome of that
no one's celebrating in the streets or anything, unlike the fucking grotesque display in america where an unarmed man getting shot in the head at point blank range, albeit a man who funded terrorist attacks, is greeted with oafish jubilation - that was fucking retarded
This video man
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkTzj0hiSng[/media]
I can't say I liked her, or agreed with many, if any, of her policies, but the woman was a fucking powerhouse, god damn. So I, probably like many, have a grudging form of respect for her at the very least.
Also the daily mail is going to literally fucking explode when it hits the shelves tomorrow, there won't be any newsagents left for all the fire and brimstone
[img]http://i.imgur.com/YCh348i.png[/img]
oh wow
[QUOTE=Negrul1;40207029][img]http://i.imgur.com/YCh348i.png[/img]
oh wow[/QUOTE]
People really hated communism back then.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40207076]People really hated communism back then.[/QUOTE]
i still hate communism
What annoys me about tributes to Thatcher is similar to what annoyed me about tributes to Reagan. That is, lots of people give Reagan some kind of credit for helping bring down the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyways, it was unsustainable as a system. It was just a matter of when.
Now lots of articles give her credit for the Falklands war victory, in so far as her leadership is concerned. But there's no way the UK should get its ass kicked by Argentina, no frickin' way! How do you get credit for winning something that you should not lose to begin with?
[QUOTE=Negrul1;40207029][img]http://i.imgur.com/YCh348i.png[/img]
oh wow[/QUOTE]
what a load of shite
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40207076]People really hated communism back then.[/QUOTE]
Yep, I saw this on the Telegraph the other day:
[quote]Mr Gorbachev,” said Margaret Thatcher, “can we be absolutely frank with each other?” He replied through the interpreters that yes, indeed they could. “Good,” she cried, “because I want you to know that I hate Communism.”[/quote]
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;40207126]What annoys me about tributes to Thatcher is similar to what annoyed me about tributes to Reagan. That is, lots of people give Reagan some kind of credit for helping bring down the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyways, it was unsustainable as a system. It was just a matter of when.
Now lots of articles give her credit for the Falklands war victory, in so far as her leadership is concerned. But there's no way the UK should get its ass kicked by Argentina, no frickin' way! How do you get credit for winning something that you should not lose to begin with?[/QUOTE]
Reagan and Thatcher are usually credited to their warm relationship with Gorbachev - and hence linked with the downfall of communism and the Soviet Union
She's credited for the Falklands because there was a lot of opposition about going to war in the first place given that the Falklands was so far away from the UK
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;40207126]What annoys me about tributes to Thatcher is similar to what annoyed me about tributes to Reagan. That is, lots of people give Reagan some kind of credit for helping bring down the Soviet Union. But the Soviet Union was going to collapse anyways, it was unsustainable as a system. It was just a matter of when.
Now lots of articles give her credit for the Falklands war victory, in so far as her leadership is concerned. But there's no way the UK should get its ass kicked by Argentina, no frickin' way! How do you get credit for winning something that you should not lose to begin with?[/QUOTE]
It's the same bullshit attitude that's like "It's Gordon Brown/Obama's fault we're in the recession right now!", when a) the recession had been on it's way for ages and b) while mistakes were made, pretty much anyone in office at that time [I]would have made the same mistakes[/I].
[QUOTE=butt2089;40206323]She won her third election victory [B]5 years[/B] after the Falklands war ended, a war that was only 2 months long. There is no way in hell that she won just off the back of the war..[/QUOTE]
Exactly, there must be more reasons
Some responses to her death:
Coal miners:
[QUOTE]The death of Margaret Thatcher was a "great day" for coal miners, David Hopper, general secretary of the Durham Miners' Association said today.
The ex-miner, who turned 70 today, spent all of his working life at Wearmouth Colliery.
He said: "It looks like one of the best birthdays I have ever had.
"There's no sympathy from me for what she did to our community. She destroyed our community, our villages and our people.
"For the union this could not come soon enough and I'm pleased that I have outlived her."[/QUOTE]
Gorbachev:
[QUOTE]Last leader of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev said Mrs Thatcher was a politician whose word carried great weight.
"Our first meeting in 1984 marked the beginning of a relationship that was at times difficult, not always smooth, but was treated seriously and responsibly by both sides".
"Margaret Thatcher was a great politician and an exceptional person. She will be remain in our memories and in history," said Mr Gorbachev, whose resignation as president December 1991 marked the end of the Soviet Union.[/QUOTE]
Gerry Adams:
[QUOTE]Gerry Adams @GerryAdamsSF
An lá nuair a bhfuair Margaret Thatcher bás (A new day at Margaret Thatcher's death) Long live the memory of Bobby & his comrades.[/QUOTE]
David Cameron:
[QUOTE]David Cameron said Margaret Thatcher's legacy "will be the fact she served her country so well, she saved our country and that she showed immense courage in doing so".[/QUOTE]
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