Jon Stewart On Why He’s Leaving ‘Daily Show': Conservatives “Killing Me”
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[QUOTE=BFG9000;47224327]Yeah but it just seems like he's whining at this point[/QUOTE]
And fox news hasnt been whining about liberals being the death of America?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47224607]And fox news hasnt been whining about liberals being the death of America?[/QUOTE]
No they have
But I don't see why he's leaving BECAUSE of Fox news, because if anything they make good joke fodder
Instead he tries to generate negative sentiment amongst his fans for conservatives by grouping them with fox news and accusing them of being "the reason why he left"
man I hope someone steps up and fills his and colberts spot in being a REAL(funny) news show that calls other people out on their bullshit.
I think John Oliver does a pretty good job with that
Have you guys seen him debate with Bill O'Reilly? Really frustrating to watch, because O'Reilly is so wrapped up in his ego that he doesn't even realize how many times Stewart has made laps around him.
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47223791]Politifact checked all fifty clips in the vine and verified they were indeed all lies.
[url]http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/feb/26/50-fox-news-lies-6-seconds-daily-show/[/url][/QUOTE]
Thats incredible actually
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;47222702]This shit is fucking infuriating. It feels like every commercial break has an attack ad.
Makes you not want to vote at all and instead cave their heads in with a pipe.
Still, I like to think our Conservative party isn't quite as bad as the Republican party, but they've set the bar quite low soooo....[/QUOTE]
I don't live in the States, but I would argue that they are just as bad if not worse in some areas. Harper and the conservatives come off a lot smarter than the Republicans seem to in the press, and they aren't so loud about their ideas, so that they can push them through parliament quietly. Look up Omnibus bills, also he is cutting funds to pretty much everything good, science, libraries, health care, he is completely and blatantly ignoring major social issues in our own country, and he is pretty much destroying any good reputation Canada used to have (peaceful, friendly, inclusive, progressive) by not only trying to cater to the American way of things, but then pushing it farther into Napoleonic plebiscite territory.
As a young person living in Canada, I feel the government has never been more opaque and I feel that I have almost no influence as a voter.
We have a pretty good history of political satire and comedy in Canada with the air farce, this hour has 22 minutes, and the Rick Mercer report, but I wish Jon Stewart would come here if he is tired of American politics haha.
Congratulations, assholes: your stupidity broke a national treasure.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47225790]Congratulations, assholes: your stupidity broke a [B][U]national treasure[/U][/B].[/QUOTE]
Pfft, he's not THAT good...
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47224820]I think John Oliver does a pretty good job with that[/QUOTE]
yeah once a week on HBO and youtube VS every weeknight on comedy central and other websites. every weeknight wins when talking about news bullshitery.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47224725]No they have
But I don't see why he's leaving BECAUSE of Fox news, because if anything they make good joke fodder
Instead he tries to generate negative sentiment amongst his fans for conservatives by grouping them with fox news and accusing them of being "the reason why he left"[/QUOTE]
it was pretty obvious he wasn't being serious about dying from fox news, nor did he say he was leaving because of them, that's just sensationalist bullshit by people who don't get his satire
the crazy ass conservatives that swarm around fox are NOT the outliers, so trying to claim he's clumping them in with other "majority not borderline-retarded" conservatives is stupid
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47225790]Congratulations, assholes: your stupidity broke a national treasure.[/QUOTE]
to be completely honest, his show wasn't that great
it was a one-sided wankfest about jon stewart's political opinions told through jokes
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;47227178]to be completely honest, his show wasn't that great
it was a one-sided wankfest about jon stewart's political opinions told through jokes[/QUOTE]
Agreed, but at least he was funny and sincere.
At least he's not like that obnoxious smug cunt Bill Maher who just goes out and acts above everyone else.
[QUOTE=Smeetin;47225738]I don't live in the States, but I would argue that they are just as bad if not worse in some areas. Harper and the conservatives come off a lot smarter than the Republicans seem to in the press, and they aren't so loud about their ideas, so that they can push them through parliament quietly. Look up Omnibus bills, also he is cutting funds to pretty much everything good, science, libraries, health care, he is completely and blatantly ignoring major social issues in our own country, and he is pretty much destroying any good reputation Canada used to have (peaceful, friendly, inclusive, progressive) by not only trying to cater to the American way of things, but then pushing it farther into Napoleonic plebiscite territory.
As a young person living in Canada, I feel the government has never been more opaque and I feel that I have almost no influence as a voter.
We have a pretty good history of political satire and comedy in Canada with the air farce, this hour has 22 minutes, and the Rick Mercer report, but I wish Jon Stewart would come here if he is tired of American politics haha.[/QUOTE]
I'm Canadian too. Keep in mind I didn't say they were good, they're fucking garbage and we need to get rid of them, just that aren't quite as in-your-face batshit insane. I'm fully aware of their fuckery. Was just posturing that at the very least they are more clever about it.
I agree with everything you've said.
They're only not in-your-face batshit insane because they know it'd cost them votes. I firmly believe there are a good number of them who have reached that kind of "I don't believe in evolution, free market solves everything, legislate away our freedoms whilst proclaiming them" zenith of crazy.
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;47227178]to be completely honest, his show wasn't that great
it was a one-sided wankfest about jon stewart's political opinions told through jokes[/QUOTE]
He ripped Democrats fairly regularly. I stopped watching awhile ago because it started becoming sorta formulaic but that's not really a fair or honest observation.
[editline]27th February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=catbarf;47223999]I keep seeing people on the Internet complain that American politics are too divisive and nothing gets accomplished anymore, then in the same breath lament that either Republicans or Democrats are ruining everything.
You can't have it both ways, people. You can't complain that people subscribe to partisan rhetoric, then blame everything on the other group. [/QUOTE]
What matters is the substance. Saying Republicans are ruining everything is completely pointless if you have nothing to back it up with but if I can actually show you facts about Republican policy that are directly detrimental to the political/social/economic progress of the united states then that isn't "subscribing to partisan rhetoric" it's criticizing the Republican party. I can do that without being a Democrat supporter. Waving it away as rhetoric is giving them a pass when you really shouldn't.
[QUOTE=catbarf;47223999]You can't complain that there are too many attack ads and personal insults, then cheer on political comedians who make a living mocking the other side. I wish people would just own up to the fact that they happily participate in party politics, rather than demand civility and fairness without practicing what they preach.[/QUOTE]
Again, it's about substance, and this is what Stewart was hitting on in his video. Instead of talking about the lies Fox News spins we are talking about his politics. He is wrong not because his facts are wrong, but because he is a Left "mocking" the Right. He was being entirely civil and fair during this segment. Being civil doesn't mean giving a political movement a pass when they say some bullshit because it wouldn't be politically moderate. I don't like Jon Stewart because he aligns with me politically, I like him because he combines humor with actually being accurate.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47224725]No they have
But I don't see why he's leaving BECAUSE of Fox news, because if anything they make good joke fodder
Instead he tries to generate negative sentiment amongst his fans for conservatives by grouping them with fox news and accusing them of being "the reason why he left"[/QUOTE]
he doesn't have to do anything to generate negative sentiment about liars and frauds when they are putting themselves in that position. It has nothing to do with the typical conservative(though, it's scary when you hear conservatives say they only listen to Fox or Rush). It has everything to do with how many lies are peddled as truth by a major news network and how many people lap that shit up.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47222494]no
our politicians issue non stop attack ads during campaign seasons that are ruthless and unrelated to the issues at hand generally speaking[/QUOTE]
Pffft, that's it? That's every-day DC here!
[QUOTE=catbarf;47223999]I keep seeing people on the Internet complain that American politics are too divisive and nothing gets accomplished anymore, then in the same breath lament that either Republicans or Democrats are ruining everything.
You can't have it both ways, people. You can't complain that people subscribe to partisan rhetoric, then blame everything on the other group. You can't complain that there are too many attack ads and personal insults, then cheer on political comedians who make a living mocking the other side. I wish people would just own up to the fact that they happily participate in party politics, rather than demand civility and fairness without practicing what they preach.
This is not directed at any of you personally. It's just something I've observed a lot on this forum.[/QUOTE]
Just because Jon Stewart is liberal doesn't mean that everything he says sprouts from his liberal background. He's gone after a lot of people on both sides and gone after important scandals like the weird selling of guns to drug cartels in Mexico (can't remember the name atm), and to say that isn't necessary because of his political affiliation is ridiculous.
I know some people complain about Republicans, but it's because Tea Party Republicans and the like have turned it into a pissing contest of loyalty, just as Stewart said. The concept of conservatism and being a Republican aren't bad, and I'm sure there are great Republicans out there (John McCain is or least was pretty bipartisan with his efforts and collaboration), but I don't think it makes me too partisan to say that there's something definitely wrong with the Republican party as compared to the Democratic party. This sub-sect of Republicanism grows larger and distracting every day.
I can't speak for others, and I know some others that do it, but that's my defense.
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;47221302][URL]http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/9up6u7/better-call-foul[/URL]
the video is better than the article[/QUOTE]
Any link for outside the U.S.?
[QUOTE=BFG9000;47224725]No they have
But I don't see why he's leaving BECAUSE of Fox news, because if anything they make good joke fodder
Instead he tries to generate negative sentiment amongst his fans for conservatives by grouping them with fox news and accusing them of being "the reason why he left"[/QUOTE]
Here, let me put this in perspective:
Go to a YouTube comments section and try to spread the truth.
Boom, now you have the reason he left.
[editline]28th February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;47221302][URL]http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/9up6u7/better-call-foul[/URL]
the video is better than the article[/QUOTE]
[del]The theory he drops at 6:31 can be confirmed. I live in Oklahoma, a red as fuck state, and they're voting to remove AP history classes because they point out that America did some shit things. An example: how we put Japanese people in camps during WWII because they looked like the enemy, shit like that.
One of our two houses passed it iirc.
It's so fucking stupid.[/del]
Oh wait it's right here lmao:
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I feel the same way Jon except with everything.
[QUOTE=catbarf;47223999]I keep seeing people on the Internet complain that American politics are too divisive and nothing gets accomplished anymore, then in the same breath lament that either Republicans or Democrats are ruining everything.
You can't have it both ways, people. You can't complain that people subscribe to partisan rhetoric, then blame everything on the other group. You can't complain that there are too many attack ads and personal insults, then cheer on political comedians who make a living mocking the other side. I wish people would just own up to the fact that they happily participate in party politics, rather than demand civility and fairness without practicing what they preach.
This is not directed at any of you personally. It's just something I've observed a lot on this forum.[/QUOTE]
If you ask me, both parties are worthless.
It's just both are screaming it's the other's fault the car won't start, when one has been putting the wrong damn keys in the ignition while the other's been beating the gas tank with a tire iron.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47222605]It is important we have people like Jon Stewart in our political climate and news.[/QUOTE]
there's always MSNBC, and Chris "thrill up my leg" Mathews.
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;47241134]there's always MSNBC, and Chris "thrill up my leg" Mathews.[/QUOTE]
What? What is your reasoning for associating those people with Jon Stewart?
MSNBC is nothing compared to John Stewart. Lawrence O'Donnell is smart, but nobody there is a clever and they just come off as blowhards for the most part.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;47246984]MSNBC is nothing compared to [b]John Stewart[/b]. Lawrence O'Donnell is smart, but nobody there is a clever and they just come off as blowhards for the most part.[/QUOTE]
What do the Green Lanterns have to do with this?
[QUOTE=wauterboi;47242151]What? What is your reasoning for associating those people with Jon Stewart?[/QUOTE]
Same political idealogy, except one is more of satirist/comedian and the other is a political talk show host that got struck with poes law.
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Turns out, he's just leaving to pursue his new WWE career.
