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[QUOTE=nigerianprince;42151628]I don't argue that they have done things better in some forms than their competitors, and I don't think they are blind rip off artists. Most companies that make similar devices have just been gradually putting more into a smaller box and selling it for less. A lot of it has just been natural progression.[/quote] implying this is a bad thing? sure sometimes it is, not always. [QUOTE=nigerianprince;42151628] I also do not appreciate your implications that I am under the influence of narcotics while writing these posts; especially as you seem to have glossed over a great deal of things I have said.[/quote] oh boohoo! it was a "witty" quip like "Thanks for the history lesson grandpa". don't be hypocritical. [QUOTE=nigerianprince;42151628] I wrote that because [I]Apple didn't invent that concept[/I]; I very clearly said it was something that I believe was just a natural progression. As far as I'm concerned Creative probably invented the concept or was the first company to bring it to market.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=nigerianprince;42151628] I'd enjoy knowing where you think I somehow implied just "adds a few bits and pieces onto an almost ideal competitors product"? I clearly said they "succeeded in making a more refined mass storage music player".[/quote] the tone of all your posts is definitely "i hate apple", this is semantic bullshit designed to pick away little bits of points and act like they aren't relevant, when really they totally are. i'm through here, have fun and comfort in your total superiority.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42151648]That will never happen. I am sorry but you will have to run xXx WEEDGOKU420 xXx's custom ROM if you want the real Android experience on your phone.[/QUOTE] Because Cyanogenmod nor AOKP is not a thing.
[QUOTE=Van-man;42151689]Because Cyanogenmod nor AOKP is not a thing.[/QUOTE] It's still funny to me that you need an entire team of open source developers just to make most people's Android phones don't suck.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42151705]It's still funny to me that you need an entire team of open source developers just to make most people's Android phones don't suck.[/QUOTE] It's funny to me that you don't realize most of those developers are just adding onto AOSP. The removal of sucking has nothing to do with their additions and everything to do with the fact the ROMs are sans any crap ware the carrier shoved on your device.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42151705]It's still funny to me that you need an entire team of open source developers just to make most people's Android phones don't suck.[/QUOTE] Atleast there's freedom to dick around with the OS. How many people haven't complained about how they can't change things in iOS, because Apple has a [I]"our way or the high way"[/I] mentality?
[QUOTE=usa;42151674]implying this is a bad thing? sure sometimes it is, not always. oh boohoo! it was a "witty" quip like "Thanks for the history lesson grandpa". don't be hypocritical. the tone of all your posts is definitely "i hate apple", this is semantic bullshit designed to pick away little bits of points and act like they aren't relevant, when really they totally are. i'm through here, have fun and comfort in your total superiority.[/QUOTE] All I did was explain from my perspective why I felt your points were invalid; you seemed to have missed out a few things I had clearly said which would invalidate claims you are trying to make now. The tone of my posts is the tone of my posts; I actively do not like Apple and I have never made a secret of that. That being said, I did say they were successful at some things, I can't recall having denied them being successful at things; just because you try to rebuke any criticisms by calling anyone who doesn't like Apple a 'hater' or say that all other products "suck" it doesn't make it valid. My criticisms of Apple as a company where more in line with my criticisms of Sony as a company: -they haven't made anything that groundbreaking in recent history -they like proprietary bullshit on everything
[QUOTE=danharibo;42151709]It's funny to me that you don't realize most of those developers are just adding onto AOSP. The removal of sucking has nothing to do with their additions and everything to do with the fact the ROMs are sans any crap ware the carrier shoved on your device.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, I guess I'm just used to getting a phone that doesn't have a whole bunch of shit that I don't need, so thinking that I would have to install a custom version of the operating system just to get rid of that stuff to be completely ridiculous. [QUOTE=Van-man;42151717]Atleast there's freedom to dick around with the OS. How many people haven't complained about how they can't change things in iOS, because Apple has a [I]"our way or the high way"[/I] mentality?[/QUOTE] I do like the built-in ability to make your phone a kawaii desu anime tour de force, but unfortunately that's not what I'm looking for in a phone. A more open iOS would be nice, but that's not what makes Apple millions.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42151749]I'm sorry, I guess I'm just used to getting a phone that doesn't have a whole bunch of shit that I don't need, so thinking that I would have to install a custom version of the operating system just to get rid of that stuff to be completely ridiculous.[/QUOTE] So am I, that's why I've got a Nexus 4.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42151749]I'm sorry, I guess I'm just used to getting a phone that doesn't have a whole bunch of shit that I don't need, so thinking that I would have to install a custom version of the operating system just to get rid of that stuff to be completely ridiculous. I do like the built-in ability to make your phone a kawaii desu anime tour de force, but unfortunately that's not what I'm looking for in a phone. A more open iOS would be nice, but that's not what makes Apple millions.[/QUOTE] But that's what makes Android OS phones earn just as much, the fact that its more open, and if you want it to be similar to iOS, you can make it so. Your hand isn't forced, and that is the attraction. Most stuff can be removed by the way, but ROM's are just a faster way to do so.
[QUOTE=spkypwnsuall;42151771]But that's what makes Android OS phones earn just as much, the fact that its more open, and if you want it to be similar to iOS, you can make it so. Your hand isn't forced, and that is the attraction. Most stuff can be removed by the way, but ROM's are just a faster way to do so.[/QUOTE] I've seen a ROM that basically transformed a phone into a bare metal webserver. Everything else was scraped out, even user interface. Only things keps were vital background processes, and ontop of that were nginx installed and a script that made it automatically log-on to a wireless access point.
[QUOTE=Telepethi;42143969]They already have. Microsoft and Motorola have both done them. Motorola had a fingerprint scanner on their Atrix smartphone for ATT. [editline]10th September 2013[/editline] I'm really disappointed by the hardware. The A7 chip is only 1.7ghz dual core. Fucks sake we've had quad core phone processors for a year now and they've only given the phone a 400MHz boost over the iPhone 5's dual core 1.5GHz. IMO the 5s should be $100 and the 5c should be $50. This is NOT worth the premium price point of a state of the art phone.[/QUOTE] I know, because the AMD processors with their higher ghz, and more cores are soooo much better than the shitty intel quad cores right?
I just wish android didn't use java. I hope some of those other FLOSS phone OS's go somewhere.
Now honestly, I don't care about specs and such, All I care about, And the majority of people care about is ease of use. I've tried using a Android device, Its the most confusing piece of shit i've ever used and swapped it back within a week to a Iphone.
[QUOTE=Best4bond;42152854]Now honestly, I don't care about specs and such, All I care about, And the majority of people care about is ease of use. I've tried using a Android device, Its the most confusing piece of shit i've ever used and swapped it back within a week to a Iphone.[/QUOTE] You'll find android users will probably feel the same about iOS.
The funny thing is, I've always been an android fan, my current phone is a flagship Android device. However, I'm upgrading to an iPhone 5S because of the fact that I own an iPod touch 5th generation, which is very similar in a lot of ways and I love it. It's a lot smoother than my phone, I don't need a ROM to make it usable, it has a much longer battery life, it has a much better music app with better organization and album art, in general, it's just a lot better personally.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42152912]It's a lot smoother than my phone, I don't need a ROM to make it usable, it has a much longer battery life, it has a much better music app with better organization and album art, in general, it's just a lot better personally.[/QUOTE] Pretty much the same reason I went to iOS including that I found that apps were in general better quality and I found iOS more stable (little freezes and crashes extremely frustrate me), and hey, you can get your customization back with jailbreaking, if you want it that is.
Since I never had an proper iphone and I need a new phone, I think I'll give 5s a try.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;42151247]Are you trolling? Android is bloated, iOS is relatively lightweight Of course Android by itself is very lightweight compared to stock iOS but doesn't change the fact that manufacturers like to put their penisware into your phone Aside from that, the gold color and fingerprint scanners were fresh, but the new case designs are mediocre[/QUOTE] iOS itself isn't bloated, but it requires a lot of hardware to do basic things Android can do on the same hardware.
[QUOTE=Mors Quaedam;42154217]iOS itself isn't bloated, but it requires a lot of hardware to do basic things Android can do on the same hardware.[/QUOTE] except iOS was designed only for iPhones so Apple knows exactly what how the OS will behave on all phones running it. Android on phones or Windows on PC's, the OS developers don't know every single machine that will run it, so they gotta make it lean for people without super high end phones or PC's. On the other hand, iPhones and iOS are designed for each other by the same company, so the concerns of an OS made for everything are of non existing. Basically think how console games have super crazy optimization that isn't possible on PC because of many hardware configurations.
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;42153280]Pretty much the same reason I went to iOS including that I found that apps were in general better quality and I found iOS more stable (little freezes and crashes extremely frustrate me), and hey, you can get your customization back with jailbreaking, if you want it that is.[/QUOTE] The customisation jailbreaking allows for is still very limited in comparison to Android. There are alternate springboards available now, but they are all fairly pricy and have little support from theme developers as they aren't all that popular. iOS is the most unstable fucking thing ever on anything but the newest, and second newest devices in Apples lineup. The second a new device comes out don't expect future iOS versions to perform even remotely acceptably on your older devices.
[QUOTE=Coffee;42151530]Android is as bloated as the manufacturer bloats it.[/QUOTE] It's smaller in disk size, but architecturally much more clunky. Dalvik is not a very graceful system by any stretch of the word. Both of them provide a relatively clean stock experience, though, and you can't say either is bloated when you bought a Samsung. Seriously, TouchWiz roms for my phone are 1GB. ParanoidAndroid which I am running is ~170mb.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;42154560]The customisation jailbreaking allows for is still very limited in comparison to Android. There are alternate springboards available now, but they are all fairly pricy and have little support from theme developers as they aren't all that popular. iOS is the most unstable fucking thing ever on anything but the newest, and second newest devices in Apples lineup. The second a new device comes out don't expect future iOS versions to perform even remotely acceptably on your older devices.[/QUOTE] iOS 6 was fine on the iPhone 4, I haven't got that iPhone anymore, but I can't imagine iOS 7 would crash lots unless they're still ironing out bugs
[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;42156135]iOS 6 was fine on the iPhone 4, I haven't got that iPhone anymore, but I can't imagine iOS 7 would crash lots unless they're still ironing out bugs[/QUOTE] I only used iOS 7 up to beta 2 on my iPhone 4. It was buggy as hell.
ios x64? whaaat?
[QUOTE=Mors Quaedam;42156185]I only used iOS 7 up to beta 2 on my iPhone 4. It was buggy as hell.[/QUOTE] Isn't that kinda par for the course with betas?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;42156203]Isn't that kinda par for the course with betas?[/QUOTE] Yeah.
The iPhone 4 is also quite outdated, so iOS 7 runs like shit on the iPhone 4 as well.
[QUOTE=Pawnstick;42151648]That will never happen. I am sorry but you will have to run xXx WEEDGOKU420 xXx's custom ROM if you want the real Android experience on your phone.[/QUOTE] or just not get a shit phone [editline]11th September 2013[/editline] psa both android and ios are not very good operating systems [editline]11th September 2013[/editline] osx on the other hand is a great operating system with a slightly unintuitive ui
What's bad about iOS that's not bad in OSX? Apart from that they're designed for completely different systems respectively
[QUOTE=UltraSamurai;42152789]I just wish android didn't use java. I hope some of those other FLOSS phone OS's go somewhere.[/QUOTE] Well there is [URL="http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html"]native code[/URL], bur instead of polishing it and presenting it as a superior solution to Java, Google downplays it. They should be doing the opposite, Java is only good for small & simple apps.
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